U.K. diocese tells Catholics how to venerate pagan ‘deities’

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This is sad AND bad. The guidelines of the diocese with the approval of its bishop bring scandal for the fact that they are heretical.

Have they forgtotten the first Commandment?

“I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no other gods before thee.”

SHEFFIELD, U.K., June 6, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) – A Catholic diocese in the U.K. is encouraging Catholics visiting pagan shrines to “bow” to pagan images and to eat food “blessed” in pagan rituals in the spirit of “ecumenism” and “dialogue.”

lifesitenews.com/news/u.k.-diocese-tells-catholics-visiting-pagan-shrines-to-bow-bring-flowers-to
 
These pagan gods are demons. This Catholic bishop is literally (“literally” as in “literally”) telling his flock to venerate demons.

Absolutely abysmal.
 
I’ve looked on the parish website and can’t find anything about pagan deities, so I’ll assume it was taken down.

Though I’m wondering was the advise about how to conduct yourself when visiting other places of worship in respect for their practise, which wouldn’t be the same as actually worshipping some other god. 🤷
 
Theodora said:
This is sad AND bad. The guidelines of the diocese with the approval of its bishop bring scandal for the fact that they are heretical.

Have they forgtotten the first Commandment?

“I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no other gods before thee.”

SHEFFIELD, U.K., June 6, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) – A Catholic diocese in the U.K. is encouraging Catholics visiting pagan shrines to “bow” to pagan images and to eat food “blessed” in pagan rituals in the spirit of “ecumenism” and “dialogue.”

lifesitenews.com/news/u.k.-diocese-tells-catholics-visiting-pagan-shrines-to-bow-bring-flowers-to
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Why are people posting articles from a website that so often inflames hatred for the Pope?

If one is going to post something this obscene then at least make sure it refers back to a worthy news source.
 
simpleas said:
I’ve looked on the parish website and can’t find anything about pagan deities, so I’ll assume it was taken down.

Though I’m wondering was the advise about how to conduct yourself when visiting other places of worship in respect for their practise, which wouldn’t be the same as actually worshipping some other god. 🤷
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That was basically how I read it. I still wouldn’t “bow” to their “god” or anything like that. But most of the directions seemed to be more of about being respectful of those folks beliefs than actually worshiping their “gods”.
 
Padres1969 said:
That was basically how I read it. I still wouldn’t “bow” to their “god” or anything like that. But most of the directions seemed to be more of about being respectful of those folks beliefs than actually worshiping their “gods”.
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The directions have now been removed from the Diocesan website because of the controversy it has kicked up in the Catholic media in the UK.

It’s inadvisable for a Catholic to bow to an image of a pagan “god”, even out of a sense of respect, as the true scandal doesn’t come from the private interior intention but from the public scandal.

The scandal comes when those non-Catholics see a supposedly practicing Catholic following the beliefs of another faith. It reduces the likelihood of their own conversion in seeing Catholics behave so indifferently in public, in exactly the same way as if a prominent Catholic starts acting immorally. It makes them think “why bother becoming Catholic, it doesn’t make any difference”.
 
Lord have mercy on us!

We should be filling Eucharistic Adoration times in our parish! Our churches need to be full.

We have an awesome supernatural faith and much prayer will ignite many gifts of the Holy Spirit.

Daily prayer time (not just two minutes), family prayer time…this needs to be practiced!

Love, not hate, needs to be practiced. All this comes from the grace of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

I hope many will heed Our Lady of Fatima’s warnings about what we should be doing. We are celebrating the Fatima Centennial now.

The more we grow in the Light (grace) of Christ, the further the darkness will recede.
 
Padres1969 said:
That was basically how I read it. I still wouldn’t “bow” to their “god” or anything like that. But most of the directions seemed to be more of about being respectful of those folks beliefs than actually worshiping their “gods”.
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news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2173194.stm

This kind of thing is ridiculous, reminds me of when we had news of the now-ex Archbishop of Canterbury officially becoming a druid thinking it was Christian. Almost as ridiculous as the news channel I am sourcing this from.
 
dshix said:
These pagan gods are demons. This Catholic bishop is literally (“literally” as in “literally”) telling his flock to venerate demons.

Absolutely abysmal.
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It wasn’t the bishop himself who put forth the guidelines. I’m guessing the bishop had more to do with taking it off the website than putting it there to begin with.

Not all bishops pay that close attention to what goes on the diocesan website.
 
Respecting others beliefs is by no means veneration! I would no sooner play catch in a Bhuddist shrine, even though I don’t believe in their system…

Another case of catholic bashing.
 
ByzCath08 said:
From the archive of their website in May. Click on the Ecumenism & Interfaith tab, use the Ecumenism dropdown and you will see it. And lest they say it was a mistake, the archive of their site from July 2016 had this. They only removed it when the light was shone on it.

web.archive.org/web/20160324105657/http://hallam-diocese.com/about/bishops-commissions/

You can see what nonsense they listed on a Catholic diocese website.
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Thanks.

As I guessed, it’s ‘instructions’ on what to do if you visit one of the community faiths.

Don’t see what the fuss was about, I’d find it quite useful should I ever be invited to a place of worship I was unfamiliar with.
 
Dorothy said:
Lord have mercy on us!

We should be filling Eucharistic Adoration times in our parish! Our churches need to be full.

We have an awesome supernatural faith and much prayer will ignite many gifts of the Holy Spirit.

Daily prayer time (not just two minutes), family prayer time…this needs to be practiced!

Love, not hate, needs to be practiced. All this comes from the grace of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

I hope many will heed Our Lady of Fatima’s warnings about what we should be doing. We are celebrating the Fatima Centennial now.

The more we grow in the Light (grace) of Christ, the further the darkness will recede.
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Powerful post. Listen to Dorothy and the Blessed Mother!
 
friardchips said:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2173194.stm

This kind of thing is ridiculous, reminds me of when we had news of the now-ex Archbishop of Canterbury officially becoming a druid thinking it was Christian. Almost as ridiculous as the news channel I am sourcing this from.
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To be fair Archbishop Williams joined the Gorsedd of Bards. Whose purpose is to honour the literary achievements of Welsh poets and prose writers, not pagan gods. They’re “druids” in the same way Taco Bell tacos contain “meat”.
 
Joe_5859 said:
It wasn’t the bishop himself who put forth the guidelines. I’m guessing the bishop had more to do with taking it off the website than putting it there to begin with.

Not all bishops pay that close attention to what goes on the diocesan website.
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Thank you for the clarification, I misread the news story. That definitely makes this much less bad.
 
ByzCath08 said:
From the archive of their website in May. Click on the Ecumenism & Interfaith tab, use the Ecumenism dropdown and you will see it. And lest they say it was a mistake, the archive of their site from July 2016 had this. They only removed it when the light was shone on it.

web.archive.org/web/20160324105657/http://hallam-diocese.com/about/bishops-commissions/

You can see what nonsense they listed on a Catholic diocese website.
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From what I can tell, by looking at this link, it seems that this was a text from some other group, that a staffer at the diocese put on the website. Perhaps from the local interfaith group.

The bishop may have not known it was even there, and once all the scandal started taking off, ordered it to be removed.
 
Padres1969 said:
That was basically how I read it. I still wouldn’t “bow” to their “god” or anything like that. But most of the directions seemed to be more of about being respectful of those folks beliefs than actually worshiping their “gods”.
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It’s bizarre. When my Evangelical wife attends Mass with me, I expect her to be respectful but I would not ask her to compromise her beliefs by genuflecting or kneeling during the consecration. Why would she do so? - coming from a very low church tradition. Likewise, when I visit her church I don’t feel compelled to raise my hands in song. Surely I can be respectful in a Hindu temple without bowing to the images of their gods.
 
twf said:
It’s bizarre. When my Evangelical wife attends Mass with me, I expect her to be respectful but I would not ask her to compromise her beliefs by genuflecting or kneeling during the consecration. Why would she do so? - coming from a very low church tradition. Likewise, when I visit her church I don’t feel compelled to raise my hands in song. Surely I can be respectful in a Hindu temple without bowing to the images of their gods.
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Indeed. It was probably someone’s slightly overzealous attempt to engage in respectful interfaith relations. Taking respect just a little too far so to speak.
 
Stat_Crux said:
The directions have now been removed from the Diocesan website because of the controversy it has kicked up in the Catholic media in the UK.

It’s inadvisable for a Catholic to bow to an image of a pagan “god”, even out of a sense of respect, as the true scandal doesn’t come from the private interior intention but from the public scandal.

The scandal comes when those non-Catholics see a supposedly practicing Catholic following the beliefs of another faith. It reduces the likelihood of their own conversion in seeing Catholics behave so indifferently in public, in exactly the same way as if a prominent Catholic starts acting immorally. It makes them think “why bother becoming Catholic, it doesn’t make any difference”.
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Good point. These are the dangers and damages of universalism and pantheism. The true faith and the true Cross are blurred in the essence of ambiguity and in the cloud of confusion. God the Father is seen as one among many “deities”, as opposed to the Creator and the Savior. Satan is quite cunning and clever.
 
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