U.S. Bishops Say They're Willing to "Go To Jail" Over the HHS Mandate

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Maybe it’s wrong to feel this way, but do you have any idea how much this excites me??

Our bishops taking action like this!? Whoa.
 
Julia_Mae said:
Well, what possible circumstance would arise where anyone would “go to jail?” It’s a civil law not a criminal one. If there are fines and they refuse to pay the courts will just seize bank accounts and the government will take the money, anyway. It’s very dramatic and all that but what are they talking about? Is there some criminal charge that could be brought I am unfamiliar with?
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Civil or criminal case, jail time or not, the US Bishops are still delivering a strong message. Despite popular beliefs about the Church, being Catholic is really counter-cultural nowadays.
 
Lucky7 said:
Maybe it’s wrong to feel this way, but do you have any idea how much this excites me??

Our bishops taking action like this!? Whoa.
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I know exactly how you feel. This will be a huge example to all us Catholics on how serious we have to be with our faith.
 
Timothy_Garber said:
I know exactly how you feel. This will be a huge example to all us Catholics on how serious we have to be with our faith.
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It would also be nice to see the Church excommunicate Catholic politicians who support anti-Catholic positions.

It feels like our Church needs a huge wake up call.
 
Lucky7 said:
Maybe it’s wrong to feel this way, but do you have any idea how much this excites me??

Our bishops taking action like this!? Whoa.
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Maybe this is part of the real “New Springtime.” Martyrs (even white ones) are the seed of the Church!
 
ProVobis said:
Okay, I respect and support their position 100% but in doing so, they’re mistrusting the entire judicial system as well as the executive and legislative branches in the matter. This country still runs on the principles of checks and balances and if there is suppression of any kind, it won’t be for too much longer IMO.
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You might want to study the experience of the Amish, who pay taxes but object to all forms of insurance, which they believe rejects trust in God. They are exempt from Social Security and Medicare (and Obamacare) now, but it took them 27 years to get that exemption under a change in law. The Supreme Court ruled that Social Security is not insurance, but a tax–just like they did with the individual mandate of the Affordable Care Act. The IRS still refers to the “penalty” for not buying health insurance, even though they are well aware that it is constitutional only as a tax.

amishnews.com/amisharticles/amishss.htm
 
Trader said:
You might want to study the experience of the Amish, who pay taxes but object to all forms of insurance, which they believe rejects trust in God. They are exempt from Social Security and Medicare (and Obamacare) now, but it took them 27 years to get that exemption under a change in law. The Supreme Court ruled that Social Security is not insurance, but a tax–just like they did with the individual mandate of the Affordable Care Act. The IRS still refers to the “penalty” for not buying health insurance, even though they are well aware that it is constitutional only as a tax.

amishnews.com/amisharticles/amishss.htm
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I know what you’re saying. The Christian Scientist seem to be in the same position.

Not the best example but what if your religion is opposed to paying taxes altogether?

I imagine quite a few would want to join that religion.
 
I heard tonight on the news that some agreement had been reached on this issue. It does not require Catholic institutions to pay for birth control etc, but provides for a means for those who wish it to pay for insurance coverage on their own. Not too clear, maybe at a group but unsubsidized rate? Anyone else hear that.
 
Ohana said:
I heard tonight on the news that some agreement had been reached on this issue. It does not require Catholic institutions to pay for birth control etc, but provides for a means for those who wish it to pay for insurance coverage on their own. Not too clear, maybe at a group but unsubsidized rate? Anyone else hear that.
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I’m sort of confused but here it is:

splendoroftruth.com/curtjester/2013/02/meet-the-new-hhs-mandate-same-as-the-old-hhs-mandate/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20splendoroftruth/lNZE%20(The%20Curt%20Jester

I may be wrong on this but my understanding is that if you get insurance through the exchanges, the coverage and costs are the same for everyone with that one carrier. Coverage would be uniform from company to company. You don’t get reduced premiums if you opt out of pregnancies or mammograms or prostate testing, for example. You’ll need to get insurance through some co-op like Medi-Share if you wish to get just Christian-approved coverage, for the lack of a better term.

Of course, whether or not this is true, all this may change if the higher courts say it will.
 
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