U.S. first nation to legitmize West African land theft

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It is actually quite surprising, but now we can truly see who the power-brokers are in Washington. This move puts Donald Trump on the same side as Hillary Clinton on this issue.

Indeed, one of the several reasons I voted against Hillary Clinton was because she was accepting Moroccan money into the Clinton foundation while she was Secretary of State, and in addition was not condemning theft of land and resources, as well as the torture, imprisonment, and executions of thousands of Sahrawi people by the Moroccan government.

Of course, this also, in a sense, legitimizes Israel’s theft of land, but this move further isolates the US from the ethical positions of the past. Indeed, the US is the only nation in the world, besides Morocco, approving of this theft and persecution.

I do hope that Christian readers from all factions can see that this is truly an injustice.
 
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Unfortunately people will dismiss this as left wing or communist propaganda due to the source, completely ignoring the issue.

Land theft has such an honored history in the west, as well, such as the west in the United States or the enclosures in England, it’s such an integral part of capitalism’s history, that it’s often brushed aside as irrelevant.
 
StudentMI said:
Unfortunately people will dismiss this as left wing or communist propaganda due to the source, completely ignoring the issue.
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I had to choose the source because they were the only ones I found who lined out the injustices meted upon the Sahrawi people.

Let’s assume that conscientious readers will overlook the source this time. After all, I read stuff presented from far-right media, and then fact-check.

This should not be a political issue. It’s a human rights issue, a social justice issue.
 
Western Sahara has the Polisario. A questionable group to some.
Stretching along the Atlantic coast and rich in minerals, Western Sahara is larger than the U.K. and has been bitterly contested since its 1975 annexation by Morocco after the withdrawal of ex-colonial power Spain. Sporadic fighting between Morocco and Polisario claimed about 9,000 lives over 16 years.
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Polisario Quits Western Sahara 30-Year Cease-Fire After Clashes - Bloomberg

Some call them terrorists, I don’t know.
 
Victoria33 said:
Some call them terrorists, I don’t know.
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Yes, the Moroccan government might call them terrorists for trying to repel invading and confiscating Moroccan forces. What is your source of the “terrorist” claim?
ConcernedAmerican said:
If you can’t defend your land it’s not yours.
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What is the source of this assertion?

Do you not see that this is a battle cry for “might makes right?”

It is not a Christian tenet at all. In fact, this would make the Romans right in their occupation of Israel.
 
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This may be a good thing for the region, will they have autonomy?

. Sahara conflict has lasted too long, Moroccan Autonomy Plan, a serious & credible basis for discussions – French FM | The North Africa Post
OneSheep said:
Yes, the Moroccan government might call them terrorists for trying to repel invading and confiscating Moroccan forces. What is your source of the “terrorist” claim?
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They’ve long had that reputation.


 
It’s been a fact for centuries.


“ this right acknowledges the status quo, and that denial of the right is meaningless unless one is able and willing to use military force to deny it. Further, the right was traditionally accepted because the conquering force, being by definition stronger than any lawfully entitled governance which it may have replaced, was, therefore, more likely to secure peace and stability for the people, and so the right of conquest legitimizes the conqueror towards that end”
 
I don’t think Morocco is overly concerned with catholic teaching
 
Who cares? We as Catholics have the ability to judge a situation according to clear moral principles. And your right of conquest is not a right according to the Church. So it can be disregarded. Calling a wrong a right doesn’t make it so.
 
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The church played by the same rules for a few centuries. If Biden can endorse queers marrying and whores killing babies I can support the right of conquest.
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The Church’s actions must be distinguished from it’s teaching. That’s Catholic 101. And your “if they get to so do I” simply shows a misunderstanding of how this type of thing works.
 
No I understand how it works. I just don’t much care anymore.
 
ConcernedAmerican said:
It’s been a fact for centuries.
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Yes, “might makes right”, it is not Christian. Again, if it is moral, then the Roman conquest and occupation of Israel was moral.
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I don’t think Morocco is overly concerned with catholic teaching
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Exactly. But we are so concerned here.
Victoria33 said:
They’ve long had
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Did you actually read the widipedia article? Here is the only reference to terror:
The Polisario Front has denounced terrorism and attacks against civilians,[11] and sent condolences to Morocco after the 2003 Casablanca bombings. It describes its struggle as a “clean war of national liberation”. Since 1989, when the ceasefire was first concluded, the movement has stated it will pursue its goal of Western Sahara’s independence by peaceful means as long as Morocco complies with the ceasefire conditions
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northafricapost.com
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This is false. The “member” they are referring to left the Polisario in 2011 and joined ISIS, 2015, well before the terrorist act:

 
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Yes, to start with we can all call our congressmen and senators to protest this move. My own congressman is well-funded by the same lobbies that funded Biden and Clinton, but I’m going to try anyway, appealing to a Catholic approach.
 
They tried to have a referendum, it has been delayed for some reason.

They can perhaps put this to use and It sounds like Western Sahara will have some autonomy.

There are many articles discussing the Polisario. I was just skipping over that. Anyone can find them. I said I found them questionable because one is going to run into propaganda I know for all sides.
 
Victoria33 said:
They tried to have a referendum, it has been delayed for some reason.

They can perhaps put this to use and It sounds like Western Sahara will have some autonomy.
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If there was a just solution already, then every nation in the world (except now, the US) would not be contesting Morocco’s occupation of the area. The occupation is an injustice, and this move by the Trump administration, nor Hillary Clinton’s tacit approval, change the injustice. Our government is legitimizing theft and persecution in West Africa, and it goes against all standards of moral behavior.
 
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