U.S. Gay Catholics Plan Special Welcome for the Pope

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Dale_M said:
erm… for what charge or charges? :confused:
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Lovemyfaith said:
Since when is a catholic not obedient to the Pope?

Our Holy Father’s message first and formost is love. News stories like this bother me when I consider how many nations are led by people who preach fear and hatred.
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I really don’t think that any homosexual who is celibate & following Scripture & Natural Law would have any reason or will to disrupt the Pope’s visit.

That leaves those who are living in sin & want their sin to be called normal & good to do the demonstrating.

Does anyone notice that those heterosexuals who are living together without benefit of marriage are NOT threatening to demonstrate??
 
wanner47 said:
Name me one first world country that refuses homosexuals the alleged “right” to be gay.
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It’s not a right, a choice, a lifestyle (although stereotypes continue to hold fast to the idea that it is). The word orientation was chosen for a reason to refer to sexuality - some people like guys, some like gals.

On the other hand, being Catholic is definitely a choice, it’s not something pre-determined by genes or determined before puberty or reason by hormones and pre-birth environment.
 
revelations said:
Dale_M said it the best. The Pope is a big boy, I am sure he will handle this absolutely wonderfully. How’s the best way to handle these people? I do believe our lord said it the best:
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If they thirst, give them a drink, if they hunger give them food. Turn the other cheek and in doing so heap burning coals upon their heads.
Frankly, I don’t understand what all the protest and fuss is all about. Homosexuals, lesbians, and transgendered people are all called to the same things that heterosexual people are: CHASTITY until marriage. And even in marriage, the act has to remain pure. There is no need for special outreach, or special treatment. They are taking advantage of the Pope’s visit to try and further the lie that there truly is discrimination against homosexuals in the catholic church.

Bravo!!!
There is no discrimination in the church, I’ve yet to experience or hear of any. We are all sinners, and as such we all need to repent. No one sinner is dirtier than the next, we are all capable of the same things.
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Name me one first world country where abortion is illegal. Name me one third world country where abortion is illegal.
 
CradleCath said:
Yes, we are all sinners. The difference…a heterosexual sinner doesn’t usually claim that adlutery, for instance, is good. They don’t expect anyone to say that stealing is OK. That, since they “were born as thieves”, they can’t help themselves so people should accept their stealing…even approve of it. You are right on the mark, their is no discrimination within the Church…there is only the fact that we won’t call a sin something “natural & good”.
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I think you need to read what you just typed. If you think about it, you’ll laugh right away.
 
Grace and Peace,

Perhaps we should pray for our Lord and Saviour to enter the hearts of those who feel the need to offend Our Holy Father? :o
 
These people know full well they are not going to change the Pope’s mind, and certainly not by such antics. It’s simply a way they can vent their hatred of the morals of the Catholic Church and to further confuse the already confused who think the secular culture should somehow be able to determine the teachings of the Catholic Church.
 
chrisb said:
Grace and Peace,

Perhaps we should pray for our Lord and Saviour to enter the hearts of those who feel the need to offend Our Holy Father? :o
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I’m not debating that. The Rainbow Sash Alliance is probably the most corrupt of the groups of its type.
 
v3orb said:
But at any time, they’re allowed to marry. GLBTs are not.
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Of course they aren’t. If you have any grasp of anatomy at all, you’ll know why. Two women or two men do not complete one another physically & to suggest that they might try to, defies the natural law of God by which He created the universe. It also debases the men/women who have sex with another of their own gender, thus abusing the body that God created in His own image.
 
v3orb said:
It’s not a right, a choice, a lifestyle (although stereotypes continue to hold fast to the idea that it is). The word orientation was chosen for a reason to refer to sexuality - some people like guys, some like gals.
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You’re absolutely right, and that orientation in and of itself is not a sin. Acting on that orientation outside of the proper context (marriage for heterosexuals, chastity for homosexuals) is a sin, however, and those who wish to be Catholic should abide by that teaching.
On the other hand, being Catholic is definitely a choice, it’s not something pre-determined by genes or determined before puberty or reason by hormones and pre-birth environment.
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Very true. Which begs the question – if these Rainbow Sashers so vehemently feel that the Church has “erred” in Her teaching, why not become part of a Christian church that teaches the alleged “truth” about homosexuality (e.g., the Anglican or ELCA churches)? Why bother protesting against an authority that you (general “you,” not you in particular) don’t consider valid?
 
Problem is, once you’re catholic, switching out of the church is usually a bigger sin than living gay and partnered → hence it’s not done often (although done too much).
 
CradleCath said:
Of course they aren’t. If you have any grasp of anatomy at all, you’ll know why. Two women or two men do not complete one another physically & to suggest that they might try to, defies the natural law of God by which He created the universe. It also debases the men/women who have sex with another of their own gender, thus abusing the body that God created in His own image.
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once again, it’s irrelevant to the argument.
 
v3orb said:
Problem is, once you’re catholic, switching out of the church is usually a bigger sin than living gay and partnered → hence it’s not done often (although done too much).
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I guess that only matters if you recognize that the Church has the authority to decide what is and is not a sin – and it seems to me that most active and unrepentant homosexuals do not recognize or acknowledge that the Church has that authority (in fact, most seem to outright reject it).

I guess I just don’t see the logic in remaining in a church that you* feel doesn’t teach the Truth. When I came to the conclusion that the ELCA didn’t teach the Truth, I left it – I didn’t say within the ELCA and try to make everyone else Catholic. 🤷

*again, “general” you, not you in particular
 
*Problem is, once you’re catholic, switching out of the church is usually a bigger sin than living gay and partnered → hence it’s not done often (although done too much).
I guess that only matters if you recognize that the Church has the authority to decide what is and is not a sin – and it seems to me that most active and unrepentant homosexuals do not recognize or acknowledge that the Church has that authority (in fact, most seem to outright reject it).
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I suggest you find out about New Ways and Dignity to see where they’re coming from.
I guess I just don’t see the logic in remaining in a church that you* feel doesn’t teach the Truth. When I came to the conclusion that the ELCA didn’t teach the Truth, I left it – I didn’t say within the ELCA and try to make everyone else Catholic. 🤷
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The general belief is not that the Church is wrong, per se, but that it is not standing fast to catholic values anymore. Plus, who would want to leave the Church of God, the one Holy and Apostolic Church founded by Christ Himself? Even living in sin within the Church is better than stranding yourself from Christ completely.
 
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