U.S. History College Class

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OP. History is often written from the “winner´s/big guy” perspective and not the “loser´s/little guy”. The winner/big guy doesn’t write the bad things that happened after the fight, new law and legislature, ruler etc either.
 
Even Theology students use these conventions. Ask your teacher which convention he or she prefers for graded work.
 
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There were many bad people in the Church over the last 2000 years, many in positions of authority. Also, many historian fail to distinguish between the institutional Church and the people in it.
And therein lay many of the critiques which miss the mark by painting with either a broad brush, or a wrong on.

Coupled with that is the angst occasionally seen wherein the writer “reports” with 21st century worldview on matters well before the era.
Learn to think critically
To do so is not to criticize. It is to look dispassionately at a statement, and to be able to look at the matter from more than one position (for example, not looking at the matter only from your own experience, and/or being Catholic). Critical thinking is the intellectually disciplined process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and/or evaluating information gathered from, or generated by, observation, experience, reflection, reasoning, or communication, as a guide to belief and action.
 
And then there is the question posed by Pilate: “Quod est veritas” - what is truth. Statements the OP has laid out are not “untruth”. They may or may not be prejudiced, or simply a shorthand synopsis of a point. All history is subject to a degree of bias; the historian has “X” amount of data and must wade through it to indicate what is important and what is peripheral, and what is irrelevant. It is also subject to the possibility that not all the data has been discovered/uncovered, as well as possible translation issues from one language to another, and cultural issues which may be reflected in the data.
 
Welcome to the world of 1984. (The book, not the current date).

If you haven’t read the book, you might want to do so. It’s about the “Ministry of Truth” which employed millions of people to re-write history, each and every day as the political situation changed.

Unfortunately, some groups of people read the book and decided that what was described was not a version of Hell, but rather their idea of Utopia. And they’ve been pushing for it ever since.

Orwell is no doubt spinning in his grave that 1984 is the new Bible of these folks.
 
You’d be wrong. There is no effort in higher ed to hide America’s racist history. If anything, it’s over-emphasized in some ways.
Is there any one person that can speak for the whole of higher ed?

Peace!!!
 
If the Catholic church was so terribly racist, why do countries like Paraguay, Brazil, and Mexico, predominantly Catholic countries, have such large mixed race populations?
In Brazil’s case? Slavery and the formation of a hierarchical caste system (the castas) based on the degree of non-European ancestry. In the US, the “one drop rule” was adopted so racial division was more clear cut between white and black.

Mexico was similar to Brazil except there the social classes were European-born, European colonist-born, Mestizo (mixed European/Native), and pure Native in descending order of status.
 
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it is true, that for a long time Spain did hold an iron grip on the Americas, but it was actually the Protestants from England and the Netherlands, that treated American Indians amongst other people as lesser people, seriously when you get the chance, read Columbus’s diary, he had a very high opinion of American Indians. Although a lot of people don’t like to admit this, it was actually the Catholic church that originally led the Abolitionist Movement.
Neither Catholic nor Protestant imperialism is going to win any prizes regarding treatment of native peoples. Empires on both sides of the religious divide cruelly exploited these peoples.

And Columbus did NOT treat Indians well. Forced labor is not treating people well. His opinion of the Indians was that they would make good servants.
 
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Factually, that whole statement about the Jesuits is largely true. St. Jean de Brebeuf spent many, many hours learning the native language and culture. And one can’t deny that indigenous peoples who encountered Europeans, any Europeans, were going to be exposed to a host of diseases for which they had no natural immunity. It matters not if the first contact was French Jesuits, English Puritans, or German Lutherans.

Unfortunately, these situations in past centuries when nobody understood transmission of diseases were a case of “if the French Jesuits hadn’t gotten there first, somebody else would have.” The New World was going to have Europeans swarming into it en masse, and whoever did it was going to bring new and strange diseases with them.
 
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There is no effort in higher ed to hide America’s racist history. If anything, it’s over-emphasized in some ways.
Amen to that. The USA has a huge amount of racism throughout its history, some of which was largely hidden away or not talked about until recently. President Woodrow Wilson makes Trump look like MLK.

But there is also a disturbing tendency to find racism under every bush, including where none exists.
 
To be clear, the book you are referring to is Exploring American Histories by Nancy Hewitt and her husband Steven Lawson, both distinguished scholars from Rutgers University. It’s a recent publication. I did study a certain amount of US history as an undergraduate, but did not use this book as I was at university a few years before it came out. If I wanted to brush up on my US history or fill in some gaps in my knowledge, I’d certainly consider getting myself a copy of this.

CE/BCE makes sense. The fact is, nobody knows when Jesus was actually born, so it makes more sense to date things from when he was traditionally believed to be born. It’s also a little strange to use BC/AD when talking about cultures that have no historical connection with Christianity and have, or had, their own dating systems.

The passages of the book that you cite do not sound like attacks on the Catholic Church. They sound like fairly uncontroversial summaries of what happened. It’s supposed to be a survey of the whole of US history. You can’t expect much more detail or nuance than what you’re getting. If you want to know more about Jesuit missions, for example, there are entire books written on the subject. What you’re getting here is an overview, an outline.
you are better off reading history on your own. It will be mostly one sided when you take courses.
Really? I have two degrees in history and never found a course to be one sided. The emphasis when I was at university was on teaching students how to think, not what to think. When one read out an essay one’s tutor he was hoping to hear something that displayed some flair of originality. Possibly he wouldn’t agree with it, but then you’d spend the next hour pulling it apart, trading opinions, and filling in gaps in knowledge. I remember one week my tutor had set Time on the Cross as reading for an essay. He completely disagreed with pretty much everything that Fogel and Engerman had to say, but he thought it was important to know what they said and didn’t mind taking the risk that some of his students might actually agree with them.
Do they mention there was a political party in the United States that defended slavery as a “positive good” and remained in control of the former Confederate States and introduced segregation and other forms of legal discrimination?

I bet they don’t.
Check out the book if you are interested. I just looked it up online and the authors unsurprisingly mention the Democratic Party over and over. Did you really think that two reputable scholars had managed to write a history of the United States that failed to mention the Democratic Party?
 
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You’d be wrong. There is no effort in higher ed to hide America’s racist history. If anything, it’s over-emphasized in some ways.
Are you saying students are taught it was the Democrats that supported slavery, ant the Republicans who opposed it? Do they teach that Segregation was enacted in “Yellow Dog” Democrat states? Do they talk about the KKK as the enforcement wing of the Democrat Party? Do they identify Bull Connors, Orvil Faubus and other segregationists as Democrats?
 
Are you saying students are taught it was the Democrats that supported slavery, ant the Republicans who opposed it? Do they teach that Segregation was enacted in “Yellow Dog” Democrat states? Do they talk about the KKK as the enforcement wing of the Democrat Party? Do they identify Bull Connors, Orvil Faubus and other segregationists as Democrats?
I talk about that in my high school US history class. When I was in college, we learned about the South, slavery and the fact that the South was a one-party state under Democrats. And yes, we were taught that Lincoln was a Republican.
 
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I talk about that in my high school US history class. When I was in college, we learned about the South, slavery and the fact that the South was a one-party state under Democrats.
And do you emphasize they created the mess we’re in now? Do you tell them how the KKK ruled Louisiana – and who stopped them?

I’m Catholic, of course, and my grandfather and his brothers stood off the KKK at gunpoint to keep them from burning their church.
 
And do you emphasize they created the mess we’re in now?
What mess are you talking about?
Do you tell them how the KKK ruled Louisiana – and who stopped them?
We don’t get into details on state level KKK activities. I only have these students from the mid-August to Christmas break, so it has to be a quick survey of all US history from the 1600s to 2011. But we do cover Reconstruction and the Compromise of 1877 and the devastating consequences that had on African Americans.
 
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Help me out. I’ve got Exploring American Histories up on screen now.

Which chapter is devoted to segregation? Which chapter discusses the KKK? Or lynching?
 
That is more or less what was taught at Oxford. I mean, not word for word, but the history of the Democratic Party was not whitewashed or anything. That’s in the UK, of course, but most/virtually all of the set reading was by American authors. It’s also pretty much what was taught to me at school in the UK too. You seem to think that US history is being censored to avoid any criticism of the Democratic Party. To the best of my knowledge that is not happening.
 
Chapter 21, section called “Resurrection of the Ku Klux Klan”
 
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