UAE: 150 Lashes

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That’s the penalty for getting pregnant out of wedlock in Ras Al Khaimah, one of the United Arab Emerites.A maid was sentenced to 150 lashes yesterday for getting pregnant out of wedlock.

A Sharia Court official said the maid’s UAE national sponsor filed a case with police accusing N.S.T of committing adultery and being pregnant…

The court sentenced her to 150 lashes, to be administered in two stages. She will then be deported.
It isn’t enough to deport her. They have to beat the living daylights out of her before they ship her home. Barbaric.

tigerhawk.blogspot.com/2005/03/150-lashes.html

Do people actually survive 150 lashes?
 
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gilliam:
That’s the penalty for getting pregnant out of wedlock in Ras Al Khaimah, one of the United Arab Emerites.A maid was sentenced to 150 lashes yesterday for getting pregnant out of wedlock.

A Sharia Court official said the maid’s UAE national sponsor filed a case with police accusing N.S.T of committing adultery and being pregnant…

The court sentenced her to 150 lashes, to be administered in two stages. She will then be deported.

It isn’t enough to deport her. They have to beat the living daylights out of her before they ship her home. Barbaric.

tigerhawk.blogspot.com/2005/03/150-lashes.html

Do people actually survive 150 lashes?
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Sounds a bit like Salem, is that anywhere near the UAE?
 
I’d really wish they’d hold Muslim men to the same standard. Have you heard of the little contraversy in Egypt? A woman claims to have been married (not civilly) to a famous Egyptian actor, who already has a wife, and claims to be bearing his child. He denies it and says they were never married. Now a court has ordered a paternaty test, which I guess is a real shock. I guess people expect “unmarried” women to get an abortion.

But here’s the BBC report of it.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4295911.stm
 
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Norwich:
Sounds a bit like Salem, is that anywhere near the UAE?
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Off topic. You never miss a chance, do you. Ever thought of really joining a discussion with something other than your anti-US barbs, or maybe practicing a little of the Christian charity that you frequently advise other to do.
 
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Norwich:
Sounds a bit like Salem, is that anywhere near the UAE?
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No. It was a part of England at the time. However we broke the connection and got rid of English customs. 😃
 
Norwich,
At about the time in history that Salem occurred you civilized folks in England were drawing and quarting people. How very nice of you. The more I read you post the more I am convienced that you are either a total moronic jerk, or you are just doing it to get a rise out of others which makes you a troll…
 
in terms of effectiveness of flogging. the rank I know from most to least effective (number indicate usual sentence)
  1. singapore 3-6
  2. malaysia 10-20
  3. ancient china 40-100
  4. mideast
    iran once sentenced a woman who had an abortion 500 lashes to be delivered in multiple stages. and I have an iranian stoning video which shows after 100 lashes the sufferer is still conscious. don’t know much about the europe cat-o-nine-tails.
in mideast it’s usually done in public. which certainly feeds some sadists’ need.
 
would it not be very wise not to whip a pregnant woman [though i would think they would wait] b/c it could result in a miscarriage (though I would concider it far worse then that) … No sir, don’t like… this is just crazy.
 
Joe Kelley:
No. It was a part of England at the time. However we broke the connection and got rid of English customs. 😃
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The point I am making has nothing to do with America, Europe, the Uk or anything. If you care to look at Islam, its calendar puts it in it’s 17th century. Salem and the witch hunts in the UK and Europe were in the same period within Christian history. If you can’t see the parallels in human religious development then I suggest you try looking.
At this same period in our development we were hunting, torturing and killing “Witches”, we were locking people away in walled up dungeons because they were mentaly unstable, we were invading, and taking over others counties, beating the survivors (if there were any) over the head with the Bible to convert them to Christianity and killing them if they refused. Women who were found to have had sex outside marriage or were unfaithful to their husbands were as often as not beaten or imprisoned indefinately. I wonder if any of this behaviour rings a bell with anyone?
 
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Norwich:
The point I am making has nothing to do with America, Europe, the Uk or anything. If you care to look at Islam, its calendar puts it in it’s 17th century. Salem and the witch hunts in the UK and Europe were in the same period within Christian history. If you can’t see the parallels in human religious development then I suggest you try looking.
At this same period in our development we were hunting, torturing and killing “Witches”, we were locking people away in walled up dungeons because they were mentaly unstable, we were invading, and taking over others counties, beating the survivors (if there were any) over the head with the Bible to convert them to Christianity and killing them if they refused. Women who were found to have had sex outside marriage or were unfaithful to their husbands were as often as not beaten or imprisoned indefinately. I wonder if any of this behaviour rings a bell with anyone?
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Not that I agree with your skewed view of history, but do you think we are much better off than centuries ago? At least at some time in the past many could agree on moral norms, even if not following them assiduously.

Today we have contraception, abortion, sodomy, fornication, euthanasia, IVF, embryonic stem cell “research”, sterilization, etc all accepted as normal and good. Are all these things so much less barbaric for our immortal souls as those thugs whipping some poor woman or man in the middle east?
 
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Not that I agree with your skewed view of history, but do you think we are much better off than centuries ago? At least at some time in the past many could agree on moral norms, even if not following them assiduously.

Today we have contraception, abortion, sodomy, fornication, euthanasia, IVF, embryonic stem cell “research”, sterilization, etc all accepted as normal and good. Are all these things so much less barbaric for our immortal souls as those thugs whipping some poor woman or man in the middle east?
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History is as it is, it’s not skewed, it’s the way we behaved.

No, I don’t think we’re better of, it’s simply that the issues are different. If you go back to basic Catholic teaching, man has a tendancy to take the easy route in all things, original sin and all that. All we have done is change one set of easy answers for another. The point that I make (incessantly it would seem) is that we are not in a position to criticize others as we oursleves are either not following Gods teachings in our pesent time frame or were as bad as they are in following Gods teachings in their time frame.
All to do with planks and splinters I would suggest.
 
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Norwich:
History is as it is, it’s not skewed, it’s the way we behaved.

No, I don’t think we’re better of, it’s simply that the issues are different. If you go back to basic Catholic teaching, man has a tendancy to take the easy route in all things, original sin and all that. All we have done is change one set of easy answers for another. The point that I make (incessantly it would seem) is that we are not in a position to criticize others as we oursleves are either not following Gods teachings in our pesent time frame or were as bad as they are in following Gods teachings in their time frame.
All to do with planks and splinters I would suggest.
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If we can’t point out the truth because we all are sinners, then how are we to obey Christ and preach the good news to all? Christ never said to not speak the truth, or not correct one another because we are sinners.

As to your history, it is biased, unless you were exaggerating for affect.
 
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If we can’t point out the truth because we all are sinners, then how are we to obey Christ and preach the good news to all? Christ never said to not speak the truth, or not correct one another because we are sinners.

As to your history, it is biased, unless you were exaggerating for affect.
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The fine line is pointing out the truth compared to a holier than thou attitude. One is Gods way the other mans.

As far as history goes are you saying Salem and the Witch Hunts didn’t happen, that Bedlam was a figment of imagination, that women who were unfaithful to their husbands were not publicly castigated and held to account by the church, that many countries invaded and taken over by European country’s weren’t forcefully evangelised by christian missionaries?
 
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Norwich:
The point I am making has nothing to do with America, Europe, the Uk or anything. If you care to look at Islam, its calendar puts it in it’s 17th century. Salem and the witch hunts in the UK and Europe were in the same period within Christian history. If you can’t see the parallels in human religious development then I suggest you try looking.
At this same period in our development we were hunting, torturing and killing “Witches”, we were locking people away in walled up dungeons because they were mentaly unstable, we were invading, and taking over others counties, beating the survivors (if there were any) over the head with the Bible to convert them to Christianity and killing them if they refused. Women who were found to have had sex outside marriage or were unfaithful to their husbands were as often as not beaten or imprisoned indefinately. I wonder if any of this behaviour rings a bell with anyone?
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So I guess you expect the rest of us to stand by and not say or do anything because they are a young religion. When do they catch up to the rest of the world?
 
This sort of ignorant and brutal mistreatment of women is what makes me believe that Islam is just plain wrong. I keep hearing about how it’s all about peace then I see something like this. These people are right out of there minds. I’m sure it has positive ‘aspects’ but one can say that about practically anything. The tree is known by it’s fruit.

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Darrel:
This sort of ignorant and brutal mistreatment of women is what makes me believe that Islam is just plain wrong. I keep hearing about how it’s all about peace then I see something like this. These people are right out of there minds. I’m sure it has positive ‘aspects’ but one can say that about practically anything. The tree is known by it’s fruit.

-D
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OK lets look at the treatment of women and compare it to the so called civilised world.
  1. A woman who marries in Islam retains ALL her posessions including goods,. money, property etc. etc. A woman who marries in the civilised world loses all her possesions (in law) to her husband.
  2. A woman in Islam has the same rights of divorce as the man, she has no need to justify or prove his behaviour. A woman in the civilised world as often as not has to prove or show just cause to divorce.
  3. In the event of divorce a woman in Islam has the automatic right to a share of the joint assets. A woman in the civilised world has to judtify through the courts normally her contribution to the collective assets.
  4. The murder of a wife by her husband in Islam is almost (not quite but almost) unheard of. Try saying that in the civilised world.
Finally think about this, in the so called civilised world the cost of becoming pregnant outside marriage is often the death of the unborn child!!! Personally I think that’s far more barbaric.
 
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Norwich:
OK lets look at the treatment of women and compare it to the so called civilised world.
  1. A woman who marries in Islam retains ALL her posessions including goods,. money, property etc. etc. A woman who marries in the civilised world loses all her possesions (in law) to her husband.
  2. A woman in Islam has the same rights of divorce as the man, she has no need to justify or prove his behaviour. A woman in the civilised world as often as not has to prove or show just cause to divorce.
  3. In the event of divorce a woman in Islam has the automatic right to a share of the joint assets. A woman in the civilised world has to judtify through the courts normally her contribution to the collective assets.
  4. The murder of a wife by her husband in Islam is almost (not quite but almost) unheard of. Try saying that in the civilised world.
Finally think about this, in the so called civilised world the cost of becoming pregnant outside marriage is often the death of the unborn child!!! Personally I think that’s far more barbaric.
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In theory you might be right… in practice, it is not that rosy of a picture. See: uga.edu/islam/Islamwomen.html
 
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gilliam:
In theory you might be right… in practice, it is not that rosy of a picture. See: uga.edu/islam/Islamwomen.html
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Of course it’s not. But put it this way, if you can find a number of websites that point out the errors in Islams treatment of women how many sites can you find extolling the virtues and advantages if being a woman in the “Western” world.

Its like all things, look for bad news and you’ll find it everywhere, look for good and its few and far between. Why should the women who are satisfied with their lives bother to write articles, learned papers or books on the subject. The nett result is a plethora of papers showing the bad side of anything and very few showing the good, result? it must all be bad.
 
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Norwich:
Its like all things, look for bad news and you’ll find it everywhere, look for good and its few and far between. Why should the women who are satisfied with their lives bother to write articles, learned papers or books on the subject. The nett result is a plethora of papers showing the bad side of anything and very few showing the good, result? it must all be bad.
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Gee, couldn’t you have said that about Nazi Germany, Stalin’s USSR and Mao’s China?
 
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