UK Cardinal O'Brien on YouTube on "embryo bill"

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youtube.com/watch?v=22MR984zgvo

After much pressure, Prime Minister Gordon Brown has allowed members of his Labour Party a “free vote” on an upcoming parliamentary bill regulating human embryo research or “chimeras”.

The “hybrid embryo debate” in UK”… American Life League

all.org/newsroom_judieblog.php?id=2035&PHPSESSID=c5c1d31c07eb4dc0159471dbf2b0ed19

A popularity YouGov. poll taken by the Telegraph, results were:

Margaret Thatcher(27%)
Tony Blair (20%)
Tony Benn (13%)
Gordon Brown(5%).

Series of religious lectures going on in UK - Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor:

rcdow.org.uk/lectures/

 

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Hope you get plenty of answers on the thead. ​

**This hybrid business is just another step down the road to ruin. Unfortunately, people seem more taken with the potential good effects than with the evil means to to those effects (understandable as that is). But kudos to the Cardinal for speaking against it. **

**As for Blair, he’s unspeakable - & not in a good way. He’s done an enormous amount to help the UK forward on the road to moral ruin, to enable sodomy, gambling, abortion, the break up of the family, & so forth. He is also known as “Bliar”, from his relaxed (very relaxed) relationship with the virtue of truthfulness. Imagine John Kerry in power, with less honesty, far less pro-life, & with much less respect for the Church’s Eucharistic discipline: & you have Tony Blair. If Kerry could be taken to bits on the forums as happened, far more can Blair. **

**None of that is off-topic, for without Blair the UK could not be as far advanced on the road to ruin as it is: he is not to blame for all its secularisation, but he has done much to assist it; the present demoralised state of UK politics would have been impossible but for his contribution: & all of that has prepared the way for this Bill: so he cannot escape taking blame for it. This Bill did not come out of nowhere - it is a side-result of the pro-abortion policies (& votes) of Blair **

**But at least we have Cardinal O’Brien - it’s just a pity that he can’t replace Murphy-O’Connor. **

 

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Some links:

• [Roman Catholics No Longer Alone - N. T. Wright Speaks Out! (http://politicsofthecross.blogspot.com/2008/03/roman-catholics-no-longer-alone-n-t.html)
  - which is significant, since he is an Anglican bishop

The page includes this:

• According to David Aaronovitch in the Times of London, Bishop N. T. Wright of Durham yesterday joined Roman Catholic bishops in the UK in condeming “The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill” currently before the Commons. (The bill, you may recall legalizes the creation of human-animal embryos, among other things.)
• [The Times & The Sunday Times (The Times & The Sunday Times)
  Also Anglican, with some perceptive comments on the wider issues:
• [http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2008/03/cardinal-condemns-monstrous-legislation.html (http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2008/03/cardinal-condemns-monstrous-legislation.html)
  The Daily Telegraph:
• Cardinal Keith O’Brien condemns Gordon Brown over ‘monstrous’ embryo Bill
  The Times:
• UK’s first hybrid embryos created :
• **Scientists at Newcastle University have created part-human, part-animal hybrid embryos for the first time in the UK, the BBC can reveal. **
• **The embryos survived for up to three days and are part of medical research into a range of illnesses. **
• **It comes a month before MPs are to debate the future of such research. **
  I don’t know where find the Cardinal’s Easter sermon, in which his remarks occur. There is this:
• Cardinal O’Brien’s sermon - extended extract
  **One remarkable thing about the reactions to his speech is that they do not follow religious affiliation. **

**These things happen by one by one - but they are not isolated: they add up to an enormous & terrifying degradation of what would once have been taken as basic morality common to Christian, Jew, & “good pagan.” No longer. **