UK Catholic School Forced to Change Admissions Policy After Discrimination Ruling (Government Tells School Which Catholics to Admit)

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Why is this not surprising, it voluntary aided school that should have its own admission policy you want to a catholic School follow the rules. the catholic school local to me is 60% not Catholic because of things like this. my 6 year old go to a Acadamy that was a foundation school they run themselves, I wonder if other faith school have the same treatment thrown at them to. Some how i doubt it:(
 
Frankly I don’t see the problem. My family was not Catholic, but my dad wanted us to go to Catholic schools because of the academic standards and discipline. We landed up not going because the Priest’s concern was more about getting donations at Mass than actual academics. Now that is not the way to bring people to the Church.

I think admission should be based on academic standards only. Though it would be nice to have everyone attending Mass, this should not be a reason to exclude children from the school if they are in a family who does not attend on a regular basis. It is not like the Church is a private club of some sort.

The Church might be wiser if she built more schools, even off site of a Parish, lowered tuition and created scholarship programs, so any child could enroll, Catholic or otherwise. She could make some money that way and certainly would be having an influence on people’s lives who are outside of the Church. I don’t think she should be allowed to close the door on non-Catholics.

And for anyone deciding to send their kids to a Catholic school, you need to accept the fact that the Catholic Faith will be presented in that situation. No going in and saying that your child can’t be exposed to the Faith.
 
This is not as bad as it might sound at first.

The school itself is funded by the government (although the Catholic Church owns the building and administers the school).

The article says that students from outside of the geographical area of the school were being given priority over those who do live within that area.

In other words, the government allocated funding for students who live in a certain area. Students from outside that area were being admitted while those within that area were being denied.

To use a U.S. vocabulary, the school was giving priority to students from outside that school district. Remember that unlike what happens in the US, this school is funded by tax money.

As I read the article, this is not about a parish using Mass attendance as a criteria for admitting students or not. That is not the issue. The issue is that government funding for education was effectively being diverted away from those who should have been receiving it.
 
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Frankly I don’t see the problem. My family was not Catholic, but my dad wanted us to go to Catholic schools because of the academic standards and discipline. We landed up not going because the Priest’s concern was more about getting donations at Mass than actual academics. Now that is not the way to bring people to the Church.

I think admission should be based on academic standards only. Though it would be nice to have everyone attending Mass, this should not be a reason to exclude children from the school if they are in a family who does not attend on a regular basis. It is not like the Church is a private club of some sort.

The Church might be wiser if she built more schools, even off site of a Parish, lowered tuition and created scholarship programs, so any child could enroll, Catholic or otherwise. She could make some money that way and certainly would be having an influence on people’s lives who are outside of the Church. I don’t think she should be allowed to close the door on non-Catholics.

And for anyone deciding to send their kids to a Catholic school, you need to accept the fact that the Catholic Faith will be presented in that situation. No going in and saying that your child can’t be exposed to the Faith.
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I had to do a little research to understand what happens in the UK.

The school itself is funded by tax money. The government allocates money based on geography. The students who live in different area were being admitted while those who live within that area were being denied.

This is not about “Mass attendance” as a criteria. It is about failing to use residency as a requirement.
 
Father David, you made a point that school are funded by tax money, they are but two schools for example can be funded differently both funded by tax mioney, some schools get their money from central governement like the school my daughter attends but the school also helps to fund itself, this means it has control over who goes there, what they teach etc. The other school are funded locally by the councils with means the schools are run by the council and anyone can get a place as long as they are in the catchment area, by daughter school isnt in my catchment are, i chose that one as its graded outstanding, and its to popular and they have a waiting list, my son went on the list at 6 days old. my local schools are all below standard and i refused to let her go there i would rather travel 10 miles a day.

If there is such a fight to get a place at this school only deemed as good and its overprescribed whats happening to the outstanding schools. in the area must be hell of a place to live.
 
Cricket2 said:
Frankly I don’t see the problem. My family was not Catholic, but my dad wanted us to go to Catholic schools because of the academic standards and discipline. We landed up not going because the Priest’s concern was more about getting donations at Mass than actual academics. Now that is not the way to bring people to the Church.

I think admission should be based on academic standards only. Though it would be nice to have everyone attending Mass, this should not be a reason to exclude children from the school if they are in a family who does not attend on a regular basis. It is not like the Church is a private club of some sort.

The Church might be wiser if she built more schools, even off site of a Parish, lowered tuition and created scholarship programs, so any child could enroll, Catholic or otherwise. She could make some money that way and certainly would be having an influence on people’s lives who are outside of the Church. I don’t think she should be allowed to close the door on non-Catholics.

And for anyone deciding to send their kids to a Catholic school, you need to accept the fact that the Catholic Faith will be presented in that situation. No going in and saying that your child can’t be exposed to the Faith.
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If schoola dmissions was based on academic standards some school would have all the best students and other school would have all the children that didnt met the standards of the best school. admissions should be made based on place of residence, faith ( if a religious school) siblings already attending the school, Children in care of the local authority.
 
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Father David, you made a point that school are funded by tax money, they are but two schools for example can be funded differently both funded by tax mioney, some schools get their money from central governement like the school my daughter attends but the school also helps to fund itself, this means it has control over who goes there, what they teach etc. The other school are funded locally by the councils with means the schools are run by the council and anyone can get a place as long as they are in the catchment area, by daughter school isnt in my catchment are, i chose that one as its graded outstanding, and its to popular and they have a waiting list, my son went on the list at 6 days old. my local schools are all below standard and i refused to let her go there i would rather travel 10 miles a day.

If there is such a fight to get a place at this school only deemed as good and its overprescribed whats happening to the outstanding schools. in the area must be hell of a place to live.
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The issue here is that students from outside the defined area were being given priority over students from within that area. That is the problem.
 
i have just checking their website, school admission is completed via the local council, so admissions are based on the decision from the council as they allocate school places, thats why i said there are two different types of tax money funded schools. stjosephs-epsom.surrey.sch.uk/page/?title=Admissions&pid=16

council use catchment areas but it can change this when its a faith school and the parents of the children can prove why their children should be attending a faith school. its can be very complicated. and the last time i filled in school form went over 30 pages, and my daughters school doesnt come under the council even though paperwork has to be sent there to prove that my childrne has a school place.
 
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