Understanding Islamic Views

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elwill said:
if you asking me if i was proud to be a muslim , then yes

but , am i proud of seeing bad practices of some muslims , then no

but i never expect to see 100% of muslims to be devout and good muslims
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*Elwill I am sure you must be a good muslim but now tell me, when muslims burn down churches and kill Christians do you protest? Would you organise a manifestation in the street against the horror of the burnings and killings of Christians?

Would any Muslim do that?

Cinette:)*
 
elwill said:
do you know the difference between hadeeth and quran ?
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*Correct me if I am wrong but the hadeeth is an extension of the Qu’ran and is the word of the prophet as reproduced by his companions.

I found the quotation in* the qu’ran.

Cinette:)
 
He isn’t speaking. His silence means he’s hesitating to answer, he can’t back up his claims, he knows we’re gonna come up with some mind-shattering question that shows the truth of Islam. He betrayed himself, he admitted he’s proud of Islamic terrorism, his tongue betrayed him, he admits he supports Islamic terrorism.
 
Cinette said:
*Elwill I am sure you must be a good muslim but now tell me, when muslims burn down churches and kill Christians do you protest? Would you organise a manifestation in the street against the horror of the burnings and killings of Christians?

Would any Muslim do that?

Cinette:)*
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In all honesty, there are probably some. But they are in a pitiful minority.

Do you remember a number years ago when Palestinian muslims took over the Church in Israel? I can’t remember which one it was now. But they deficated in urinated in sacred areas. Can you just imagine the outrage amongst muslims if a group of Christians did that in a mosque? But it is okay to hide weapons and shoot from mosques as we see so often in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
Kitsune633 said:
He isn’t speaking. His silence means he’s hesitating to answer, he can’t back up his claims, he knows we’re gonna come up with some mind-shattering question that shows the truth of Islam. He betrayed himself, he admitted he’s proud of Islamic terrorism, his tongue betrayed him, he admits he supports Islamic terrorism.
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That itself speaks volumes about his god.
 
cathdoki said:
In all honesty, there are probably some. But they are in a pitiful minority.

Do you remember a number years ago when Palestinian muslims took over the Church in Israel? I can’t remember which one it was now. But they deficated in urinated in sacred areas. Can you just imagine the outrage amongst muslims if a group of Christians did that in a mosque? But it is okay to hide weapons and shoot from mosques as we see so often in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Thatt would be the Holy Sepulchre, they actually had the guts to attack the most holiest places of Christianity, hey, we don’t see Christians doing that in Mecca or the Dome of the Rock. But what happens in Afghanistan and Iraq, a mosque is a house of war too, were weapons can be stored and fired at the enemy.
 
Kitsune633 said:
Iraq has a troubled history, you have Sunnis and Shi’a Muslims and Sunnis and Shi’a DO NOT get along very well so there you have the problem in Iraq.
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This is true. There are many sects in islam. We here mostly about shia and sunni. But there are many other sects that shia and sunni consider heretical. Ahmadi for just one example. They consider the Sufi to heretics. The Sufi are extremely spiritual and against violence. If there is a way to express their faith, it is the closest that you could come to Catholic practices. They are very meditative and believe they bond with God during they deep meditation and their exquisite dance as the Whirling Dwervishes do.
 
cathdoki said:
This is true. There are many sects in islam. We here mostly about shia and sunni. But there are many other sects that shia and sunni consider heretical. Ahmadi for just one example. They consider the Sufi to heretics. The Sufi are extremely spiritual and against violence. If there is a way to express their faith, it is the closest that you could come to Catholic practices. They are very meditative and believe they bond with God during they deep meditation and their exquisite dance as the Whirling Dwervishes do.
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That’s a lot of sects and of course, too many to keep track and then the trouble arrises on which is correct and which one is the true Islam…aye aye aye.
 
Kitsune633 said:
That’s a lot of sects and of course, too many to keep track and then the trouble arrises on which is correct and which one is the true Islam…aye aye aye.
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They each claim the others are heretical and not muslim.

Can you imagine? I would be devastated to be told I’m not a true muslim 🙂

Actually there are some good articles on wikipedia. I was amazed at all the different sects and what they think about each other. They all consider each other to be kafir. Just like me and you.
 
cathdoki said:
This is true. There are many sects in islam. We here mostly about shia and sunni. But there are many other sects that shia and sunni consider heretical. Ahmadi for just one example. They consider the Sufi to heretics. The Sufi are extremely spiritual and against violence. If there is a way to express their faith, it is the closest that you could come to Catholic practices. They are very meditative and believe they bond with God during they deep meditation and their exquisite dance as the Whirling Dwervishes do.
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*We befriended a group of Turkish Muslims through our Parish. They were such lovely, pure people. I went to see the Whirling Dwervishers and was not impressed. they just swirl and turn all the time and at first I thought it was great but then I got bored! However, the people themselves were really nice. Are you saying they are Sufi? I couldn’t imagine them doing anything violent.

Cinette:)*
 
cathdoki said:
***I This is your quote.

if you asking me if i was proud to be a muslim , then yes

but , **am i proud of seeing bad practices of some muslims , then yes *****

but i never expect to see 100% of muslims to be devout and good muslims

Those are the questions Cinnette was asking. And you stated that you’re proud of the bad practices of muslims. It’s from your own mouth.
this one was error typing , i edited it allready
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Cinette said:
*We befriended a group of Turkish Muslims through our Parish. They were such lovely, pure people. I went to see the Whirling Dwervishers and was not impressed. they just swirl and turn all the time and at first I thought it was great but then I got bored! However, the people themselves were really nice. Are you saying they are Sufi? I couldn’t imagine them doing anything violent.

Cinette:)*
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Yep, that’s them.
 
Cinette said:
*Correct me if I am wrong but the hadeeth is an extension of the Qu’ran and is the word of the prophet as reproduced by his companions.

I found the quotation in* the qu’ran.

Cinette:)
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we have two distiniction sources for islam , quran (words of God ) then sunnah ( words of our prophet and his practices ) , yet you can’t say that hadeeth is extension to the quran , but it’s extension for source of islamic knowledge

you can’t say about hadeeth : it’s quran nor vice versa
 
elwill said:
we have two distiniction sources for islam , quran (words of God ) then sunnah ( words of our prophet and his practices ) , yet you can’t say that hadeeth is extension to the quran , but it’s extension for source of islamic knowledge

you can’t say about hadeeth : it’s quran nor vice versa
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So, where does it rank in a source of knowledge? And how is it not just as corrupt as the koran?
 
elwill said:
we have two distiniction sources for islam , quran (words of God ) then sunnah ( words of our prophet and his practices ) , yet you can’t say that hadeeth is extension to the quran , but it’s extension for source of islamic knowledge

you can’t say about hadeeth : it’s quran nor vice versa
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But it’s still part of the magic book of desert fables, right?
 
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