Understanding Islamic Views

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I’m almost in a state of shock. You answered my post. But the only reason was to defend yourself. Not islam.
may be it’s not about the question itself , it’s about the questioner and the way of his discussion 🙂

don’t take it in personal , but i will wellcome anytime anyone asking questions about islam respectfully and kindly
for those like you , it depends on my mood and kind of questions

i’m not here for fight , and it dosn’t mattar with me to take the last speach in every discussion , sometimes i think it’s worthless to continue
 
may be it’s not about the question itself , it’s about the questioner and the way of his discussion 🙂

don’t take it in personal , but i will wellcome anytime anyone asking questions about islam respectfully and kindly
for those like you , it depends on my mood and kind of questions

i’m not here for fight , and it dosn’t mattar with me to take the last speach in every discussion , sometimes i think it’s worthless to continue
You’ve ignored every post that I’ve made because they cannot be refuted. Plain and simple.
 
*Elwill I am sure you must be a good muslim but now tell me, when muslims burn down churches and kill Christians do you protest? Would you organise a manifestation in the street against the horror of the burnings and killings of Christians?

Would any Muslim do that?

Cinette:)*
if you asking me personally , then no
actually i lives among christinas and churches buildings are around me , from the middle of events i cann say to you that their is no problems between muslims and christians in my region

but with assuming that it happens , then i should to say that all muslims will show disagreement with that and will protest
 
we have two distiniction sources for islam , quran (words of God ) then sunnah ( words of our prophet and his practices ) , yet you can’t say that hadeeth is extension to the quran , but it’s extension for source of islamic knowledge

you can’t say about hadeeth : it’s quran nor vice versa
*The hadeeth must be accredited by the Muslims otherwise it would not be contained in the Qu’ran!

So the Hadeeth must be “kosher” since it is widely quoted by Muslims!

Elwill - there are so many questions on this threads that you ignore and do not answer. Why? Please go to my other postings and see my questions and respond.

I am not an enemy. I want to understand and it really bothers me that so many Muslims are so critical of us. We are just as human as you - we cry tears, we have hearts that love, we feel like you do…or do we?

Please respond.
Cinette:)
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*The hadeeth must be accredited by the Muslims otherwise it would not be contained in the Qu’ran!

So the Hadeeth must be “kosher” since it is widely quoted by Muslims!

Elwill - there are so many questions on this threads that you ignore and do not answer. Why? Please go to my other postings and see my questions and respond.

I am not an enemy. I want to understand and it really bothers me that so many Muslims are so critical of us. We are just as human as you - we cry tears, we have hearts that love, we feel like you do…or do we?

Please respond.
Cinette:)
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repeat the questions which wasn’t answered again and i will reply .
 
if you asking me personally , then no
actually i lives among christinas and churches buildings are around me , from the middle of events i cann say to you that their is no problems between muslims and christians in my region

but with assuming that it happens , then i should to say that all muslims will show disagreement with that and will protest
*But when Muslims took exception to the cartoons in Denmark there was an outcry from every Muslim country and they went berserk - they burned effigies and went crazy. When Iraqi Christians are killed and their Churches destroyed why do you not protest?

The Muslim world is always silent when such things take place.

When there is an earthquake or other tragic disaster anywhere, the West immediately goes to provide assistance - nobody ask questions if the people are Muslim or Christians. They are human beings and we extend a hand of friendship and provide humanitarian assistance. Just like that single Muslim who helped my friend. But this is just one incidence - otherwise we never hear of Muslims helping Christians.

I would like to see Muslims extend a hand of friendship to suffering Christians everywhere. Not persecute them. I have an Egyptian acquaintance who is Koptic and he tells me that his people suffer so much at the hands of Muslims in Egypt. In the documentary I have of Christian persecution it shows men who were decapitated just because they were Christian.

Don’t you agree that this is very sad and unacceptable? Don’t you think that God cannot look kindly on these Muslims who torture Christians?

God bless you Elwill
Cinette:) *
 
It is obvious that Allah does not like Christians and Jews, so why should Muslims?
But who told you that Muslims suppose to like Christians & Jews!, according to Muhammed they should not:

*Sahih Muslim, Book 026, Number 5389:
Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it.
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صحيح مسلم:
أن رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏قال ‏ ‏لا تبدءوا ‏ ‏اليهود ‏ ‏ولا ‏ ‏النصارى ‏ ‏بالسلام فإذا لقيتم أحدهم في طريق فاضطروه إلى أضيقه

(E) (A)

P.S., jakasaki provided the correct reference from Quran, but hamba2han provided a description of Christians and Jews behaviour towards Muslims not the other way around.
 
*But when Muslims took exception to the cartoons in Denmark there was an outcry from every Muslim country and they went berserk - they burned effigies and went crazy. When Iraqi Christians are killed and their Churches destroyed why do you not protest?

The Muslim world is always silent when such things take place.

When there is an earthquake or other tragic disaster anywhere, the West immediately goes to provide assistance - nobody ask questions if the people are Muslim or Christians. They are human beings and we extend a hand of friendship and provide humanitarian assistance. Just like that single Muslim who helped my friend. But this is just one incidence - otherwise we never hear of Muslims helping Christians.

I would like to see Muslims extend a hand of friendship to suffering Christians everywhere. Not persecute them. I have an Egyptian acquaintance who is Koptic and he tells me that his people suffer so much at the hands of Muslims in Egypt. In the documentary I have of Christian persecution it shows men who were decapitated just because they were Christian.

Don’t you agree that this is very sad and unacceptable? Don’t you think that God cannot look kindly on these Muslims who torture Christians?*
God bless you Elwill
Cinette:)
yes , i think that God will punish muslims who torture christians 🙂
 
yes , i think that God will punish muslims who torture christians 🙂
Really now? Because I think you’re in favor of persecutting Copts. You’re in Egypt, therefore, you persecute Copts because the Quran says so. When was the last time you were good to a Copt? Hmm?
 
But who told you that Muslims suppose to like Christians & Jews!, according to Muhammed they should not:

Sahih Muslim, Book 026, Number 5389:
Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it.
صحيح مسلم:
أن رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏قال ‏ ‏لا تبدءوا ‏ ‏اليهود ‏ ‏ولا ‏ ‏النصارى ‏ ‏بالسلام فإذا لقيتم أحدهم في طريق فاضطروه إلى أضيقه
(E) (A)

P.S., jakasaki provided the correct reference from Quran, but hamba2han provided a description of Christians and Jews behaviour towards Muslims not the other way around.
*This is a petty, immature and ugly attitude - certainly not worthy of a man of god! The more I learn of Islam the more surprised I become!

God bless all
Cinette:)*
 
yes , i think that God will punish muslims who torture christians 🙂
*What about adding your voice in protest?

I tell you that the Catholic Church would open its arms to Muslims (and it does) and all who are in need! Believe me we don’t see the religion, we see the human being.

Cinette:)*
 
*What about adding your voice in protest?

I tell you that the Catholic Church would open its arms to Muslims (and it does) and all who are in need! Believe me we don’t see the religion, we see the human being.

Cinette:)*
i don’t understand your question ? adding my voice where ?
 
i don’t understand your question ? adding my voice where ?
*Why don’t you protest against such crimes against humanity - against Christians who live in Muslim countries? Don’t you care or does the death of Christians not matter?

Cinette:)*
 
which crimes ?
*You are saying that you have not been reading my postings. I have been talking about the persecution of Christians in Muslim countries - death and the destruction of Churches. Do you mean to say that you have not paid attention to what I have been saying?

I said I had documentaries of persecutions and killings in Egypt (those people who were beheaded just because they were Christians), Indonesia, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, and on and on and on…more and more. Nuns and Priests have been killed - Churches have been destroyed. You mean to say that you have paid no attention? You now ask - “what crimes?” Perhaps because the victims are Christians this is not considered a crime but instead a good thing? Is that what you mean??

Because let me tell you that it is a crime to persecute Christians and Jews because they are loved by God as are all human beings - everyone has a soul, everyone is precious in the eyes of Almighty God.

I can’t believe I am having this conversation! I can’t believe that I have to remind anyone that all human beings are God’s creatures and loved by Him.

Do I really need to tell you this?

May God have mercy.
Cinette:)*
 
which crimes ?

do you mean protest like that
muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php
EXACTLY! YES!

*However, the Muslims on that list are from the United States and the UK. What about Egyptian Muslims, Iraqi Muslims, Palestinian Muslims, Iranian Muslims, Turkish Muslims, Saudi Arabian Muslims, Indonisian Muslims, Malaysian Muslims …Middle Eastern Muslims. Do they also protest?

Have you ever taken part in a Protest against Religious Persecutions?? Have you?

I would be interested to know.

Cinette:)*
 
*You are saying that you have not been reading my postings. I have been talking about the persecution of Christians in Muslim countries - death and the destruction of Churches. Do you mean to say that you have not paid attention to what I have been saying?

I said I had documentaries of persecutions and killings in Egypt (those people who were beheaded just because they were Christians), Indonesia, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, and on and on and on…more and more. Nuns and Priests have been killed - Churches have been destroyed. You mean to say that you have paid no attention? You now ask - “what crimes?” Perhaps because the victims are Christians this is not considered a crime but instead a good thing? Is that what you mean??

Because let me tell you that it is a crime to persecute Christians and Jews because they are loved by God as are all human beings - everyone has a soul, everyone is precious in the eyes of Almighty God.

I can’t believe I am having this conversation! I can’t believe that I have to remind anyone that all human beings are God’s creatures and loved by Him.

Do I really need to tell you this?

May God have mercy.
Cinette:)*
it’s just we are not brainwashed with that , did you ever visited one of those countries ?

i think that i allready answered your question when i said to you that i lives among many christians allready , and we lives in harmony without any problems , and churshs not destroyed or burned like you said

or do you refere to unstable countries or individual and odd crimes which you read about in the news ?
 
EXACTLY! YES!

*However, the Muslims on that list are from the United States and the UK. What about Egyptian Muslims, Iraqi Muslims, Palestinian Muslims, Iranian Muslims, Turkish Muslims, Saudi Arabian Muslims, Indonisian Muslims, Malaysian Muslims …Middle Eastern Muslims. Do they also protest?

Cinette:)*
read the entire list , you will find all types of muslims there
Have you ever taken part in a Protest against Religious Persecutions?? Have you?
I would be interested to know.
i do now in this forum 🙂
 
it’s just we are not brainwashed with that , did you ever visited one of those countries ?

i think that i allready answered your question when i said to you that i lives among many christians allready , and we lives in harmony without any problems , and churshs not destroyed or burned like you said

or do you refere to unstable countries or individual and odd crimes which you read about in the news ?
*No Elwill I have documentaries - on film - showing a procession with the coffins of Christians who were beheaded for being Christians - I think there we 20 of them. You can clearly see on film their heads loosely above their bodies. This was in Egypt - your country. If I know about this and you don’t then I am surprised.

Also, I know an Egyptian man, a Copt, and he has verified all this. He told me about the terrible suffering of Christians in Egypt.

Am I giving you news?

Cinette:)*
 
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