I found it interesting the his father wanted to convert to Catholicism, but was afraid of what it might do to his son. Mormons must be under a lot of peer pressure or control, to have the father feel that way.
Well, Mormons have been taught for generations that the Catholic church is the Great and Abominable Whore. Not “officially” for a while but there’s still that underlying feeling. I was baptized in 1994 when I was 21 and my first real friend in the church was the first one to tell me about that.
Indeed, as well might we undestand the mind of God, as all the truth “mormonisim” contains!I just have one comment. The thread title is an oxymoron (aka: a contradiction in terms). Even Mormons can’t do it.
It’s built into Catholicism as well.
List a few truths of Mormonism so that I can marvel with you…Indeed, as well might we undestand the mind of God, as all the truth “mormonisim” contains!
Explain this so I can understand what it is you mean that it is built into Catholocism as well with examples please.
You should read some Catholic literature on “Doctrinal Development” (e.g., Cardinal Newman). The main difference is that LDS frankly admit that revelation is received by humans, who can misunderstand things, so we very well might learn something that requires us to reconsider our interpretations. On the other hand, Catholics (at least those with enough historical knowledge to understand why they can’t really claim Catholic beliefs have always been the same in every respect) want to claim that the doctrine really has always been there, it’s just that nobody recognized it. I personally don’t see that much difference in the two positions.
Wrong. I WAS you. I just had to finally come to grips with the fact that the LDS doctrine has changed more in 180 years than the Catholic Church has in 2000 years. I had to come to grips with the fact that Joseph, a convicted con man, had 9 different versions of his first vision. That, in itself, should raise flags. As an attorney, when a witness has two different versions of a story, I can destroy him on the stand. I would have loved to cross examine a guy with 9 different versions of a story. There is little wonder why Joseph ran from every possibility of a trial.
Alas, if only all people would marvel with us. None the less, here are some of the simple, but profound, truths.List a few truths of Mormonism so that I can marvel with you…
they are certainly profound something…but not truths
Tell me, Janderich, if I and all of my family members were to end up in the Telestial kingdom, would we cease to recognize one another? Would we cease to love one another? Would our family relationships not continue? If I met my mother on the street, would I not embrace her?
I agree with you TexanKnight,
Paul, I don’t think that we have any official doctrine about what, exactly, such relationships will be like. But since the “eternal family” thing for us is about being bound together by covenant, I think it’s fair to say that such relationships won’t be the same as if everyone had kept their covenants. In other words, we’re talking about something more than “recognizing,” “embracing,” or “loving” one another, so your question is a red herring.
I’ve seen people do a fairly good job of showing contradictions between the Gospels, too. If I thought that the aim of lawyers in general was to discern truth, maybe I would be impressed with your pronouncement.
You mean that your celestial family relations will include sex and procreation, while ours will not. That’s what Mormonism boils down to in the end - eternal sex.