So can this be summarised as “a Jew’s purpose is to keep the commandments of God (which brings them out of the darkness into the light) for the intention of bringing forth a fruitful nation, pleasing to God”?
Then it’s better for you to learn about the historical Jesus rather than using his Name and deny the Christian Trinity and call it exclusive. Because as you’ve already been informed very clearly The Trinity is Love in it’s Fullest.
That’s good.
Then this is the wrong thread. Because the OP didn’t ask this.
That’s entirely upto you to believe the choice is yours. As for me and the Church we have our experiences and through our sufferings putting the scriptures together (in particular the New Testament) with our blood sweat and tears and Jesus our Lord to guide us, He being the Way the Truth and the Life and with the Holy Trinity we can be assured of Heaven. Albeit we have to do our work and keep the Faith.
That’s excellent. God is in them too. I never doubt their sincerity. Unfortunately some say “Heaven Forbid God should have a son” (something to that effect).
Thank you. Just following Jesus’ teaching.
Im only concerned with the Church and it’s teachings to pass on to the next Generations (since in my ancestors became Catholics in in the late 1500s.) and pray that they continue God’s work .But I have no qualms to pray for your children.
Which Church says this?
Man was not made sinful.
Awesome.My children are in no doubt that God loves them. They feel the breezes of confirmation waft over them at all times
That’s up to you once again. The choice is yours.
Why believe in Jesus? The Church for the Church and through its teachings have spread his Holy words through it’s Bishops. Apostolic powers given by Jesus himself.But the Christian Trinity denies that God would manifest again after Christianity. That is limiting the love of God in my humble opinion. How could God talk to mankind through a Human Temple through the numerous Prophets of the Old Testament and then suddenly after Jesus there is no more human Manifestation of His Word??
That is limiting dear Martin
The choice is yours, if you use Jesus’ words and make it your own.Amen again. As I state already Martin, Baha’is are baptised in the nae of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit and I have no doubt that should I do the Will of the Father to the best of my ability, I will not be debarred from heaven
Two thousand years ago a Christian wouldn’t have said I believe in a trinity since that theological definition was not yet made so clear within the church, but that is besides the point. Are you willing to admit these are two dissimilar concepts? Ie, the bahai triad and the Christian trinity?
What I am saying with absolute conviction and faith is that BOTH are true. They are oneness in substance in their Divine aspect, yet not oneness in essence on their human aspect. Confirmed by Baha’u’llah in the following statement to mankind:
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So let me get this straight you are saying both the Bahai and Christian convictions are true, so long as we have absolute conviction in faith in them?
Yes they are different only in the fact that the Baha’i Faith considers Jesus as having two aspects, one Divine, one human.
The text I have bolded shows you know little about Christianity. Perhaps you ought read on the sixth ecumenical council, Saint Maximos the confessor and the Council of Ephesus and Chalcedon.
True, I have no problem with this…
No, Jesus is God, and shares the same substance and essence of the Father, but the Father has more to His essence than what is shared with the Son…
Good, so you are saying that Christianity does not consider the bodily flesh of Jesus to be one with God?
So is the Father only 90% divine and the son has the remaining 10%?
Thankyou Martin.Then it’s better for you to learn about the historical Jesus rather than using his Name and deny the Christian Trinity and call it exclusive. Because as you’ve already been informed very clearly The Trinity is Love in it’s Fullest.
That’s good.
Then this is the wrong thread. Because the OP didn’t ask this.
That’s entirely upto you to believe the choice is yours. As for me and the Church we have our experiences and through our sufferings putting the scriptures together (in particular the New Testament) with our blood sweat and tears and Jesus our Lord to guide us, He being the Way the Truth and the Life and with the Holy Trinity we can be assured of Heaven. Albeit we have to do our work and keep the Faith.
That’s excellent. God is in them too. I never doubt their sincerity. Unfortunately some say “Heaven Forbid God should have a son” (something to that effect).
Thank you. Just following Jesus’ teaching.
Im only concerned with the Church and it’s teachings to pass on to the next Generations (since in my ancestors became Catholics in in the late 1500s.) and pray that they continue God’s work .But I have no qualms to pray for your children.
Which Church says this?
Man was not made sinful.
Awesome.
That’s up to you once again. The choice is yours.
Why believe in Jesus? The Church for the Church and through its teachings have spread his Holy words through it’s Bishops. Apostolic powers given by Jesus himself.
The choice is yours, if you use Jesus’ words and make it your own.
MJ
It is one with God inasmuch as Jesus is God. But the distinction between the humanity and divinity of Christ was made clear at Chalcedon and further clarified by Maximos the confessor who argued Christ had a genuine human will.
In exactly the same way that the sun is divided by its rays and projects itself onto objects. The mirror reflecting the sun shares in the suns rays which are the essence of the sun.
Because Christianity states that God became man and it is God who died on the Cross…
There are a lot of churches with no Apostolic succession. And these tend not to know orthodox Christianity and likely disappear when members get disenchanted or disagree.
The sun and the rays are two distinct entities. Is Jesus in anyway the sun or is he only the rays of sun? If the latter you do not agree with the Christian position.
God bless youThere are a lot of churches with no Apostolic succession. And these tend not to know orthodox Christianity and likely disappear when members get disenchanted or disagree.
Clearly that is the problem with some random church member saying something.
It doesn’t matter really in this thread in any case. Let’s stick to the Holy Trinity.
MJ
Yes God did die on the cross in his humanity. God took on the fullness of humanity and lived the perfect human life to which none before and none after has been able to do. This does not imply (unless one has not read enough) that divinity itself died on the cross, yet the divine did suffer on the cross for our sakes through his humanity.
Servant, how about some citations, For professionalism sake. And good order sake. Sometimes it reminds me of when people say “The Bible says…” But the book doesn’t talk it needs to be interpreted.
The first and main source of Islam is Qur’an. The second source is Hadiths and Sunnah of Muhammad. Prophet Muhammad did not tell anything about Trinity but God Himself did in Qur’an.