Unexpected pregnancy, disapproving family

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Sorry you got handed this. Really am. Wish I could help somehow. I’ll pray for you.

But no matter what. Just remember. At least your parents are still talking to you. Even if they’re not being that gracious about it. Some of us would kill for that. 😊

Peace.

-Trident
 
If your PCM won’t refer you off post then drop Tricare prime. Your situation is WAY above an Army neurosurgeons pay grade.
Oh, rest assured, I dropped Prime like a hot potato a few years ago, after my back problems surfaced. The kiddos and I are on Standard. 👍
 
I’m so sorry that your parents have reacted in such a heartless and cruel manner. (And they don’t sound all that “traditional Italian” to me; if they were, they’d be Catholic, and welcoming a big family with joy!)

I’ll keep you in my prayers.
This is true, and sadly, the source of many of our arguments. :rolleyes: I suppose I meant “traditional” in the sense that daughters have very strict rules and expectations for behavior, whereas my brother did not, I am expected to keep a spotless home, have supper on the table every night, serve my husband and children, etc. To be clear, I am happy to do those things, as I love my family desperately and love taking care of them. Unfortunately, both of my parents really buy into the whole “well, you have one boy and one girl, now you can stop!” mentality.
 
I was scared I would not word it the right way. And I can’t help but think there are times when one needs practical advice not just praise for their strength. Sadly, I have no practical advice to give (which I suspect the OP was needing).

I must admit, I feel relieved that my post came across in the good way I was hoping it would 🙂
Your post was very kind, very supportive, and much appreciated. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
 
Sorry to post and run; I had a dinner date in Denver with some lovely Catholic ladies, and I just got home about 45 minutes ago. Many of the posters who replied asked similar questions, so I’ll try to answer all of them here. Please feel free to ask any more questions in this thread or by PM, and I’ll do my best to answer them.
  1. Yes, my parents most definitely have boundary and control issues, particularly my mother. I’ve noticed that it’s gotten worse since we’ve had children. I was really surprised by my father’s reaction, as he normally doesn’t pry into our lives, and he isn’t outspokenly disapproving. I completely agree that I need to set boundaries, and I’ve tried to do so in the past. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. My mom is a master guilt tripper, and when she’s been too intrusive with her questions in the past and I’ve told her (in no uncertain terms) to mind her own business, the crying, the accusations, the massive guilt trips come into play. I’m getting slightly better about standing up for myself, and my husband has zero problems telling my mom to lay off, but I grew up with the “you WILL respect your parents and your elders, no matter what!!” drilled into my head, and it’s very difficult to move past that mindset.
  2. I made the switch from Tricare Prime to Standard a few years back, when I started having constant pain. No offense to Army doctors, but I don’t trust them to perform surgery on my back. 😉 I go off post for everything; medical, dental, vision. So do our children.
  3. I pray constantly that my parents will return to the faith, or at the very least, soften their hearts towards the Church. My dad was raised Catholic but strayed away from the faith when he was in college, and never returned. My mom was raised Methodist, but my nonna is a former Seventh Day Adventist who has a hatred for anything Catholic. I grew up hearing nothing but lies and mockery of the faith (whenever JPII was shown on TV, my parents would make fun of him. It was awful).
  4. What I’m really struggling with, aside from my hurt feelings and worries for the safety of our unborn baby, is how to show my parents love and respect while setting boundaries that won’t cause them to go ballistic on me. Does that make sense? I know my parents love me, they love my husband, and they adore their grandchildren. I had a very happy childhood, and I know they sacrificed a lot for my brother and I. I don’t want to be ungrateful, but there’s a very large part of me that wants to scream, “We’re 34!!! We are happily married, our children are loved and well cared for, and sorry not sorry if you don’t agree with our lifestyle!!!” I know that isn’t the most mature response, but I feel like I’m rapidly losing what little patience I had to begin with. Sigh.
  5. Yes, my husband was the one to tell my parents. I was upstairs getting ready for the day when he called my mom to FaceTime with the kids. He assumed-rightfully so-that my parents wouldn’t be nearly as angry with him as they would be with me. I could hear my mom firing all these intrusive questions at him, and he shot her down pretty quickly. He said that he wasn’t going to allow my parents or anyone to stress me out or make me feel any worse than I already did. He is…a wonderful man. I love that he protects and stands up for me, for our marriage.
I’ll go back and read over the questions again, and I’ll post another reply if I forgot to respond to a particular question. But thank you, thank you so very much for your kindness, your prayers, and your understanding. I found myself tearing up at so many of these responses, and I can’t even begin to tell you how much I needed that after this morning. I am so incredibly grateful.
 
God bless you.
The names you have chosen for your children are stunning.
I’m keeping you in my prayers.
Please keep us updates, and tell you mom that you love her, but you can onlly be around or speak to helpful people.
As someone said, on’t let her trample all over you.
Please DO place a thread in the prayer request section.
Thank you so much (and I adore the quote in your signature. I’m a classical violinist, and that really speaks to me!). So, cool story. My husband and I never find out the sex of our babies ahead of time. The day I went into labor with our older daughter, I was on a Catholic website, reading about saints whom I was unfamiliar with. I started reading about St. Catherine di Ricci, and I noticed that her birth name was Alessandra. I thought that was a funny coincidence, as that was the name my DH and I decided on if we were to have a girl. Six hours later, our very own Alessandra was born. 🙂
 
Hello–and welcome (to the club).

My husband left me to announce the news of one baby to his parents when he wasn’t around. With the next baby, we sent an email in order to give them time to process the news away from us so they’d respond in a kinder way when we saw them. My husband is a convert, I’m a revert. I eventually learned what my in-laws did or didn’t agree with, and learned not talk with them about our choices that they didn’t agree with. Saying anything at all seemed to just encourage the conversation to continue. Changing the subject helped a great deal. In the years since then, my MIL has complimented us on our parenting and now praises some of the choices that she once vocally objected to. Like many, many other people who have faced unplanned pregnancies, my MIL now loves the people that she didn’t initially want.
  1. What I’m really struggling with, aside from my hurt feelings and worries for the safety of our unborn baby, is how to show my parents love and respect while setting boundaries that won’t cause them to go ballistic on me. Does that make sense? I know my parents love me, they love my husband, and they adore their grandchildren. I had a very happy childhood, and I know they sacrificed a lot for my brother and I. I don’t want to be ungrateful, but there’s a very large part of me that wants to scream, “We’re 34!!! We are happily married, our children are loved and well cared for, and sorry not sorry if you don’t agree with our lifestyle!!!” I know that isn’t the most mature response, but I feel like I’m rapidly losing what little patience I had to begin with. Sigh.
Your lifestyle affects their lifestyle. I bet your parents want to be a good grandparents–and they fear they’ve surpassed their limit. Just as some parents feel that they can only “handle” a certain number of children, grandparents can feel that way about grandchildren. Your mother and father each have a certain a number in mind, based on how involved they’d like to be, how much time and money is available, and how much they can afford to spend on “spoiling” them as society seems to expect grandparents to do.

They may also very well be worried about your health for the sake of your health. You’re their daughter, and we parents continue to worry about our children even after they’ve grown up. They see pregnancy and caring for your children as something that puts your health at risk. They likely want to help—and they may have the mistaken notion that telling you not to have more children is “helpful”.

With your health concerns, they may have some fears that you and your husband will need to depend on them for help that they can (or want to) give. They may even fear that something will happen to you that will leave them needing to care for their grandchildren–and they may want to be able to be the ones to do that, but fear they won’t be able to do it as the number of children increases.

Speaking from experience, I look back and realize that MIL’s negative reactions to news of my pregnancy was probably motivated out of fear, mis-directed love for us, and her own desires to be a “good grandma” by society’s standards. I didn’t always realize that --and my in-laws reaction to our growing family caused me enough angst that during my last pregnancy, I avoided extended family functions and we even contemplated cutting off contact with them. If you need to-- for the sake of your peace of mind,and health, as well as for the sake of avoiding the “near occasion of sin” if this tempts you to be uncharitable–it’s okay to avoid certain conversations and/or contact with people for a period of time. But please also realize that they sound like they love you, in their secular way.
 
I, too, am impressed with your strength and resolve. I am so sorry your parents acted so rudely and without compassion. I have been dealing privately with chronic pain for several years and hopefully will be having it addressed soon as the test results and doctor results come in (probably fibromyalgia). I am sure, though, that it nowhere near as painful as yours, but I know what it’s like to stand in the shower and cry because you cannot imagine having to live in pain for the rest of your life (or a good deal of it).

I will pray for you and your precious baby. God does not make mistakes and I am sure this precious child will be a huge blessing in your life. I believe that once your parents look into that sweet face, the shame of their behavior will descend on them like burning coals. My good friend dealt with something similar with her mother when she announced pregnancy #3.

Pray for your parents but honestly, I’d limit communication with them because it will most likely bring more stress (that you and your baby don’t need) into your life. Focus on taking care of yourself and your baby!

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“I believe that once your parents look into that sweet face, the shame of their behavior will descend on them like burning coals.”

Maybe, but I would not count on that. Never happened with my very-orthodox Catholic mother. Some people are just not the type to “come around” once they have dug in on an issue, sweet little newborn faces or not. When that happens, I just remind myself they are the ones with the issues, not me. Their loss, not mine. Pray for them, but don’t let them suck the joy out of your life. They can only do that if you give them the power to.
 
Firstly I would like to say that you are an incredibly brave woman to have been what you have been through and I am so pleased you have such a wonderful supporting husband 🙂 congratulations on your pregnancy!

Secondly, as a non Catholic, I have never been able to fully understand the no contraception rule (it’s one of the reasons I haven’t joined the church yet) HOWEVER that is no excuse for the appalling way in which your parents treated yourself and your husband. Regardless of how, why, when etc a baby is created…a response such as theirs is never helpful even if the root of their anger is their love and concern for you. They should learn to form their responses into a more loving embrace and supportive response.

Personally I would say to your parents that you love them, but you can’t take the added stress of their anger in such a dangerous time for you and your baby. You need to focus on your health and your baby. I would say that if they wish to support you in a loving way, you would embrace them but otherwise stay away until they have control of their anger.

I’m surprised they see themselves as traditional Italian! To me a traditional Italian family would be Catholic and embrace a large family but then I’m not Italian so I can only go by the families I know 🤷

Stay strong and please do keep us informed of the progress of your pregnancy!

(I have a much milder experience of the panic of finding out you are pregnant! I’m currently pregnant and had been suffering from severe gall bladder problems, when I found out, I knew the operation would have to be postponed and I would have to manage the attacks on reduced medication due to pregnancy - it was scary!! Anyway, the attacks grew worse and I was hospitalised twice in 3 weeks with pancreatitis. They chose to operate anyway 2 weeks ago while pregnant and now (hopefully) all is well! I shall be praying that your health can be managed also during this pregnancy! All the best!)
 
Update.

I figured I would give my parents the weekend to get used to the news, and come to terms with it. I sent my mom a text message this morning, asking her if we could talk. She called me a few minutes later, and…it did not go well. At all. To make a very long story short, my mom accused me several times of being “self-righteous and arrogant about everything.” When I told her that her questions about our family planning were intrusive and inappropriate, and said, “see, right there! You’re self-righteous and arrogant!” I asked her why keeping the ins and outs of family planning between my husband and I was arrogant, and my mom just went on a tirade about how stupid NFP is. When I pointed out that she got pregnant twice while contracepting, she said “that’s different.” 🤷 I also told her that unplanned pregnancies were hardly exclusive to Catholics, and I just got the “self-righteous, arrogant, unkind and uncharitable” remarks again. At that point, I was crying so hard I could barely see, and I knew the conversation wasn’t going anywhere, so I hung up on her. My DH was standing next to me the whole time, and I thought he was going to absolutely blow a fuse. I’ve never seen him so angry. Later on, I sent my mom a text message, and I told her that I wasn’t going to keep her grandchildren from her. She could FaceTime with them whenever she wants (my parents live in Wisconsin, we live in Colorado). However, I said that if this is truly how she feels about me, I don’t want to have anything to do with her. She never responded, and I suppose that’s for the best.

I feel sick to my stomach, and I’ve been crying all morning. DH is livid; he says I do not need this stress and anxiety while I’m pregnant (or anytime, really), and it’s taking every ounce of his self-control not to call my mother and go ballistic on her. Please pray for me, and my parents. I really feel like I’m losing my mother, and it breaks my heart. We used to be so close.
 
Firstly I would like to say that you are an incredibly brave woman to have been what you have been through and I am so pleased you have such a wonderful supporting husband 🙂 congratulations on your pregnancy!

Secondly, as a non Catholic, I have never been able to fully understand the no contraception rule (it’s one of the reasons I haven’t joined the church yet) HOWEVER that is no excuse for the appalling way in which your parents treated yourself and your husband. Regardless of how, why, when etc a baby is created…a response such as theirs is never helpful even if the root of their anger is their love and concern for you. They should learn to form their responses into a more loving embrace and supportive response.

Personally I would say to your parents that you love them, but you can’t take the added stress of their anger in such a dangerous time for you and your baby. You need to focus on your health and your baby. I would say that if they wish to support you in a loving way, you would embrace them but otherwise stay away until they have control of their anger.

I’m surprised they see themselves as traditional Italian! To me a traditional Italian family would be Catholic and embrace a large family but then I’m not Italian so I can only go by the families I know 🤷

Stay strong and please do keep us informed of the progress of your pregnancy!

(I have a much milder experience of the panic of finding out you are pregnant! I’m currently pregnant and had been suffering from severe gall bladder problems, when I found out, I knew the operation would have to be postponed and I would have to manage the attacks on reduced medication due to pregnancy - it was scary!! Anyway, the attacks grew worse and I was hospitalised twice in 3 weeks with pancreatitis. They chose to operate anyway 2 weeks ago while pregnant and now (hopefully) all is well! I shall be praying that your health can be managed also during this pregnancy! All the best!)
I’m so sorry to hear about your gallbladder issues. The gallstone attacks I had leading up to my surgery were unbearable; it was truly the worst pain I’ve ever felt. However, I can tell you that one my gallbladder and stent were removed, the quality of live improved a thousandfold!! Congratulations on your pregnancy as well. You will be in my prayers.
 
I really feel for you. I will definitely keep you in my prayers.

How many children you have, and your use of NFP, is not your parents’ concern. Their job is to be loving grandparents and support you in raising your children. I can understand, definitely, the desire to not “disappoint” them. My concern is that, realistically, they cannot live through you. You have to live your own life.

I strongly recommend that you consider counselling and reading some self-help books. Many people in positions such as yours read and recommend “Boundaries” and “Toxic Parents”. (Not saying your parents are necessarily toxic, but the book could help you to learn to set healthy boundaries with them.) I also recommend that you see a chronic pain specialist. I have been fortunate to work with one (I’m a nurse). He said, as I recall, that methadone is an opioid that is safe for pregnancy. (NOT intended as medical advice - check with your care provider.) A chronic pain specialist will be able to help treat your pain, which may also help somewhat with your depressed feelings. (Chronic pain can lead to depression.) Meanwhile, I will definitely keep you in my prayers.
 
Update.

I figured I would give my parents the weekend to get used to the news, and come to terms with it.*** I sent my mom a text message this morning, asking her if we could talk***. …
Why? Why text her and ask her to talk if you didn’t want to hear her honest opinion?

You do not need your mother’s approval. You and your husband are grown adults. You’ve made an adult decision to follow the Christ and His Church’s teachings. Yeah! (You don’t need my approval either, but I applaud you for following the Church!)

Your mother can not give you her approval at this time because she simply doesn’t approve. Don’t keep asking her for her approval. She’s an adult–and she is entitled to her opinions. Respect her right to have an opinion that you don’t agree with, even when it conflicts with the Church teachings. God gave her the gift of free will, just as He gave it to you.

Avoid this subject with your mother. Do not ask her to talk about it anymore. For a period of time, you may very well need to avoid talking to your mother altogether. As hard as it may be to accept, please realize, your mother can not give you what you’d hoped to get from her.
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Why? Why text her and ask her to talk if you didn’t want to hear her honest opinion?

You do not need your mother’s approval. You and your husband are grown adults. You’ve made an adult decision to follow the Christ and His Church’s teachings. Yeah! (You don’t need my approval either, but I applaud you for following the Church!)

Your mother can not give you her approval at this time because she simply doesn’t approve. Don’t keep asking her for her approval. She’s an adult–and she is entitled to her opinions. Respect her right to have an opinion that you don’t agree with, even when it conflicts with the Church teachings. God gave her the gift of free will, just as He gave it to you.

Avoid this subject with your mother. Do not ask her to talk about it anymore. For a period of time, you may very well need to avoid talking to your mother altogether. As hard as it may be to accept, please realize, your mother can not give you what you’d hoped to get from her.
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Just to be clear, I wasn’t texting her in hopes that I would get her approval. I knew that would never happen (and I came to terms with that a long, long time ago). I texted her in hopes that we could just talk and get our feelings/concerns/whatever out, and move on from there. My mom was tentatively making plans to come out and visit us, and I didn’t want there to be any awkwardness or anger during her visit, especially around my children. I was hoping that we could have a calm, reasonable talk, she could explain her concerns about this pregnancy and my health-which I certainly understand-and I wanted to tell her that while I understand and respect her concerns, our family planning decisions are between my husband and I, and no one else. Obviously, that did not happen. But no, please believe me when I say I was not seeking approval from my mother. I stopped caring about parental approval a very long time ago.
 
Update.

I figured I would give my parents the weekend to get used to the news, and come to terms with it. I sent my mom a text message this morning, asking her if we could talk. She called me a few minutes later, and…it did not go well. At all. To make a very long story short, my mom accused me several times of being “self-righteous and arrogant about everything.” When I told her that her questions about our family planning were intrusive and inappropriate, and said, “see, right there! You’re self-righteous and arrogant!” I asked her why keeping the ins and outs of family planning between my husband and I was arrogant, and my mom just went on a tirade about how stupid NFP is. When I pointed out that she got pregnant twice while contracepting, she said “that’s different.” 🤷 I also told her that unplanned pregnancies were hardly exclusive to Catholics, and I just got the “self-righteous, arrogant, unkind and uncharitable” remarks again. At that point, I was crying so hard I could barely see, and I knew the conversation wasn’t going anywhere, so I hung up on her. My DH was standing next to me the whole time, and I thought he was going to absolutely blow a fuse. I’ve never seen him so angry. Later on, I sent my mom a text message, and I told her that I wasn’t going to keep her grandchildren from her. She could FaceTime with them whenever she wants (my parents live in Wisconsin, we live in Colorado). However, I said that if this is truly how she feels about me, I don’t want to have anything to do with her. She never responded, and I suppose that’s for the best.

I feel sick to my stomach, and I’ve been crying all morning. DH is livid; he says I do not need this stress and anxiety while I’m pregnant (or anytime, really), and it’s taking every ounce of his self-control not to call my mother and go ballistic on her. Please pray for me, and my parents. I really feel like I’m losing my mother, and it breaks my heart. We used to be so close.
Pray for your mom and know that she loves and cares about you. She is very concerned and is therefore, freaking out.

I would acknowledge that you know she is worried (to death) about your health and safety while continuing to keep healthy boundaries.

This situation will evolve with time. Right now everything is fresh.
 
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