United Nations challenge Vatican on human rights

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Hammering the Vatican, at the same time that there is a bloody civil war in Syria, and situations edging dangerously close to war in Ukraine and the Senkaku Islands, with nary a peep from the UN. It’s official. The UN is useless. The sooner it does as the League of Nations before it did and disband with a whimper, the better.

The UN has not been relevant since 1953.
 
Pat_Payne said:
Hammering the Vatican, at the same time that there is a bloody civil war in Syria, and situations edging dangerously close to war in Ukraine and the Senkaku Islands, with nary a peep from the UN. It’s official. The UN is useless.
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A total joke!
 
Pat_Payne said:
Hammering the Vatican, at the same time that there is a bloody civil war in Syria, and situations edging dangerously close to war in Ukraine and the Senkaku Islands, with nary a peep from the UN. It’s official. The UN is useless. The sooner it does as the League of Nations before it did and disband with a whimper, the better.

The UN has not been relevant since 1953.
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Amen! But Im afraid Satan may have bigger plans for the UN before that happens…
 
Pat_Payne said:
Hammering the Vatican, at the same time that there is a bloody civil war in Syria, and situations edging dangerously close to war in Ukraine and the Senkaku Islands, with nary a peep from the UN. It’s official. The UN is useless. The sooner it does as the League of Nations before it did and disband with a whimper, the better.

The UN has not been relevant since 1953.
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I have to agree. It is a secular institution and rooted in nothing but tit for tat politics as far as I am concerned. Their hands seem a little dirty to be pointing any fingers. I have never been impressed with the UN.
 
This doesn’t seem to be anything out of the ordinary… The Vatican is not being called a human rights abuser.

Quoting from the Fox News article:
It’s standard procedure for all 155 nations that signed on to the committee’s convention to submit a report and come before the panel, and the Vatican is both a nation-state and a signatory.

“The Holy See initiated the procedure by submitting their written report,” Felice Gaer, the U.S. representative and a vice-chair of the committee, told FoxNews.com.
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Vatican spokesman Father Frederico Lombardi recently said the church hierarchy takes its responsibilities as a nation and member of the UN seriously.

“This is part of the ordinary procedures to which all state parties to the convention adhere," Lombardi told reporters. “It is not that the Holy See was convoked in a way outside the normal procedures. In the name of Vatican City State – not for the universal church – because the convention has juridical characteristics."
 
The United Nations needs to challenge itself on human rights. When they show ANY sort of morality, they can be admitted to the conversation about others. Until then, they deserve absolutely no attention.
 
zz912 said:
The United Nations needs to challenge itself on human rights. When they show ANY sort of morality, they can be admitted to the conversation about others. Until then, they deserve absolutely no attention.
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They waste tons of money, and I mean tons. I think they accomplish little but being meddlesome and two faced.
 
I will admit, my knowledge of the UN and Vatican’s connection is small. I do remember hearing that the Vatican is a member, but not a participant (no voting influence).

In my uneducated reading of this, I wonder many questions like … What stops the Pope from forming a Catholic army? Was this not something that happened in the past? Should the UN investigate the Vatican on the Priest scandel, would this not make a policy for all countries creating waves for USA/British/France/ government failures similar to the Church? Why does the Vatican participate with such limited respect from UN?
 
From the article:

“This will be the Vatican’s second such hearing before a UN panel. Last January, officials for the Holy See testified before the UN committee that oversees the implementation of the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which also released at the time a report criticizing the Church for its stances against homosexuality, contraception and abortion. The Committee also urged Holy See officials in their report to change their canon law to ensure the rights of children.”

…DISGUSTING. The UN trying to force the Church to alter her Canon Laws.
 
UN is an organization that’s highly influenced by those who would love nothing more than the destroy the Church.
 
When UN talks in Latin, then I’ll be worried. Till then, I wouldn’t give them the time of day.
 
zz912 said:
The United Nations needs to challenge itself on human rights. When they show ANY sort of morality, they can be admitted to the conversation about others. Until then, they deserve absolutely no attention.
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How right you are. Wish they would shut down the UN and move it out of our country.
 
The Lateran Treaty restricts the Vatican to been strictly neutral which is why the Pope only has the ceremonial Swiss Guard (and before that the Palatine Guard who were disbanded around 1970)
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The Swiss Guard is a military force and its first duty is not the ceremonial but to protect the pope. Having an army for protection is not against neutrality, it’s actually a way to preserve it (you don’t need to rely on someone else’s protection).
 
Coatimundi said:
This doesn’t seem to be anything out of the ordinary… The Vatican is not being called a human rights abuser.

Quoting from the Fox News article:
It’s standard procedure for all 155 nations that signed on to the committee’s convention to submit a report and come before the panel, and the Vatican is both a nation-state and a signatory.

Yes, that’s right. What’s out of the ordinary is the way the MEDIA highlights stories to do with the Vatican, pretty much ignoring most other countries. And having CHINA question the Vatican about human rights and torture is richly ironic. :rolleyes:

(Other countries’ sessions are also being webcast live. I checked on the website. You can get info from here ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/CAT/Pages/CATIndex.aspx ).

The Vatican is well aware of the politics of this.
He [Fr. Lombardi] voiced hope that in the upcoming meeting, “a serene and objective dialogue may take place, pertinent to the text of the Conventions and their objectives.”
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