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Tomdstone
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Actually, many Protestants say that Roman Catholics are not Christian.
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timmylee87
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Not many of us actualy think that. I know catholics are Christians, as well as everyone I know… Ironic thing is my sons mom, who has a catholic background, actually didn’t think catholics are Christians XD
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aidanbradypop
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And some Catholics told me I am going to hell for reverting back to Evangelicalism. We know what they say about opinions lol.
Both views are wrong. There is so much fighting amongst Christians. It is sad
I will say this. I want unity. Probably not like a Catholic would describe unity but I do believe we are untied as one Body with Christ as the Head. There will never be one “church” until the return of Jesus, yet that should not stop us from uniting together in love and faith in our Lord and Savior to do the will of the Father!
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Tomdstone
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A Baptist told me he thought that Catholics were not Christians because they had too many pagan beliefs.
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SteveVH
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JRKH was giving a list of Scripture verses that have to do with unity. He wasn’t making a list of priorities.
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Tomdstone
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Under the scenario you have presented, I don’t see Roman Catholics going to Holy Communion in Protestant Churches.
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timmylee87
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Nor should they! Communion is something thats within the church, like I said I don’t take communion at a catholic church when I go. 1 out of respect 2 because its not my church or what I follow. I do attend though because maybe it may take one person to show how committed he is to unity to get the ball rolling.
I go to also show my support for how we are all brothers. I am protestant yes, but most importantly I am christian. My catholic brothers are no less (name removed by moderator)ortant than my protestant brothers. Its like having a family member you don’t agree with. Wouldn’t you still go to there wedding dispit knowing thinking differently?
Like I said, mass, service is one day a week, are we not Christians the other 6 days?
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Eric_Hyom
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The philosophers bucket comes to mind, you put the big rocks in first, then pebbles and fill all the gaps with sand.JRKH was giving a list of Scripture verses that have to do with unity. He wasn’t making a list of priorities.
The big rocks represent the big issues in life, the pebles the smaller issues and the sand is the trivea. If you first fill the bucket with sand first, then there is no room for the pabbles or rocks.
Start with the greatest first and everything else will fall into place.
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SteveVH
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Remember, we are speaking about unity. Of course we must love, but unity is found in the Church; one baptism, one faith, one Lord.
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timmylee87
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See I like that saying. Our churches need to find it among each other, my baptism was the same as yours, I am christian exactly like you. We worship differently but that’s it. Plan and simple we worship differently
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JRKH
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We Agape them by wishing the highest good for them. Which in theological terms and from a Catholic perspective means that they would come to understand the errors of their protestant past and come home to Holy Mother Church.
Agape does not dismiss other things taught by Scripture…be of one mind, agree with one another, be of one spirit
Love and Listen to the Church are not two opposites. They are all part of God’s commands to us.
To not listen to the Church, protected by the Holy Spirit, is to not listen to God.
To not listen to the Church is to risk being treated as a heathen.
In Scripture, when there was serious disagreement the Church came together in council to resolve the matter. The decision reached in council was universally applied. This is true unity and obedience to Christ.
One cannot use “love thy neighbor” as a foundation for ignoring “be of one mind” and “listen to the Church”.
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Tomdstone
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Unity means different things to different people. For some, it means union in love of neighbor. IMHO, if that is what unity is, then there is no need to have further endless dialogues about unity, since just about everyone already agrees to love his neighbor. However, for Catholics, I thought it meant establishment of full intercommunion between the various church communities.
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timmylee87
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To quote pope Francis “we need to meet in the middle, not at home”
Those of us who are not catholic, we already are home.
Your leader already sees the importance of it. Why else would a protestant be quoting the pope?
I hate to say it but in this thread it seems more catholics seem to think we have to convert, or that unity is not possible. Don’t worry those won’t leave a sour taste in my mouth.
As I said, there’s closed minds on both sides.
I feel everyone thinks its what we worship that matters and not our faith… Kinda makes me sad
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JRKH
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If one wishes to establish a meaning for unity that is not based on Scripture then what you say here is fine…however since the thread is about unity among Christians, then we need to look at Scripture to understand what that unity means.
I am not sure what you mean by “intercommunion”.
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Tomdstone
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The recognition by each Church involved that a member of one Church is allowed to take Holy Communion in the other Church.
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JRKH
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Yes that would be a profound union. However in order for that to happen both groups would have to have validly ordained clergy and both groups would have to believe the same things about the Eucharist.
The first is required in order to validly confect the Eucharist and the second is done to protect the non-believer from eating and drinking judgement on themselves.
We’ve already seen a bit of this in the recently established Anglican ordinariate (sp?) within the Church.
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