"Unplanned" the movie

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Jbrady said:
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Steven, who clearly likes the movie, still seems to agree with the many critics who do not, that the movie is tailored to the pro-life faithful. It’s going to seem dishonest and unappealing to anyone outside of that group. Anyone looking for a nuanced review would accept that at the bare minimum.
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Thanks for the link to the review. I’m surprised that the Register published it.

As for the rest of your comment, you’ve got it almost right. It is tailored to the pro-life faithful who are political conservatives.

As someone who is moderately liberal, and thus outside of the target group, I did indeed find it to be dishonest and unappealing. As I said in a comment above, it had all the subtlety of a Chick tract and all the intellectual honesty of a Trump rally.

Rather than uniting the pro-life movement, the film makes those within the movement who are not political conservatives feel unwelcome. The negative comments to my post in this thread are proof of that.

The insinuation is that if you don’t vote republican, you can’t be a real pro-lifer. I think framing the abortion debate as a republican/democrat issue was a big mistake and prevents the movement from expanding beyond its current base, and of alienating many like me who persist in the cause in spite of politics.
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You are so off base here Jbrady.
What was dishonest about the film? Have you even mentioned anything yet?
How would you have rather the story been portrayed?

Do you feel attacked because I asked these questions?
 
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7_Sorrows:
It seems you are buying into what the mainstream media wants to make everyone believe the pro-life movement
is about.
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I’ve been active in the pro-life community for forty-odd years. Blaming our poor public image on “the mainstream media and the Hollywood elites” is erroneous and counterproductive. The damage is almost entirely self-inflicted.

Sorry, but it looks as if we are never going to agree on this. There is no point in discussing it further.
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I just don’t get your comments about the movement having a poor public image.
  1. Why on earth should we care about the public’s (ie media’s) image? The people the the movement may have a bad image with are the people that have their mind made up and aren’t going to change. I don’t need their acceptance and if you do, you need to reevaluate your role in the movement.
  2. What do you suggest be done to change this so called image problem?
I like Patrick Coffin’s take…if this movie was made with the same production value but the opposite storyline (pro lifer that changes to pro choice and becomes a leader at PP), the actress would win many awards.
 
It is now showing at both the Regal and the AMC here in Morgantown. Last weekend only the Regal had it.
 
First off, I want to apologize to anyone I might be combative with in verbal discourse in this forum. We all need to respect where the other person is coming from. Sometimes, I do feel the need to probe their views but never mean to offend.

Back to the topic, they are adding 500 additional theaters showing “Unplanned”, this sounds like a huge amount, I’m sure it is. But I have no perspective on the movie business. See tweet.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1114196409371308032

While I am here, if we talk about so-called religious movies (I’m not sure if “Unplanned” is that in say the way, “A man for all seasons” and “Quo Vadis” etc. are), this is clearly having enough success that we are bound to see other movies come through.
 
RuthAnne said:
My youngsters will definitely be seeing it. I want them to have as much hatred towards Planned Parenthood as I do.
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I’ll be honest, I will not take the same approach as you are with your ‘youngsters’ teaching them ‘hatred’. I will do the opposite as you. My ‘youngsters’ will be seeing the movie and being taught to understand the ‘suffering’ and to ‘forgive’ those who are committing this terrible sin. I will never teach my ‘youngsters’ to believe in one of the Deadly Sins: Anger!
 
We will be doing the same as RuthAnne. We have no hatred towards any people, but the machine that kills babies by the thousands, we have lots of hatred towards. I make no apologies for that.
 
Lemuel said:
We will be doing the same as RuthAnne. We have no hatred towards any people, but the machine that kills babies by the thousands, we have lots of hatred towards. I make no apologies for that.
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Wait, you believe ‘Planned Parenthood’ is a machine? You believe those doctors murdering the unborn aren’t ‘human’? The ‘machine’ murdering these unborn babies are man. I question your logic. One of them being you’re not educated on the 7 deadly sins!
 
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Definition of machine: an efficient and well-organized group of powerful people.
 
Lemuel said:
Definition of machine: an efficient and well-organized group of powerful people.
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7 Deadly Sins:

People have always been immoral, shiftless, and self-gratifying. For ages, humankind struggled to find a conceptual system to operationalize their spiritual shortcomings.

[Pride] is excessive belief in one’s own abilities, that interferes with the individual’s recognition of the grace of God. It has been called the sin from which all others arise. Pride is also known as Vanity.

[Envy] is the desire for others’ traits, status, abilities, or situation.

[Gluttony] is an inordinate desire to consume more than that which one requires.

[Lust] is an inordinate craving for the pleasures of the body.

[Anger] is manifested in the individual who spurns love and opts instead for fury. It is also known as Wrath. (Hate)

[Greed] is the desire for material wealth or gain, ignoring the realm of the spiritual. It is also called Avarice or Covetousness.

[Sloth] is the avoidance of physical or spiritual work.
 
I saw Unplanned this evening.

Honestly, a lot of the dialogue in the first half of the movie felt … off to me. Like it was obvious these weren’t seasoned actors. It did get better, I thought, later on in the film, and I thought the lead actress who played Abby Johnson did a good job. Believable emotions, without going into histrionics.

A lot of effective moments later in the film, many of them between Abby and her husband.

One place where I felt they REALLY messed up was the song choice where the PP facility was bringing in a lot of “patients” just before a big hurricane. Mandisa’s “Overcomer”? REALLY out of place considering what was happening in that scene. (Also, I adopted “Overcomer” as my theme song a few years ago, so it’s kinda personal for me.)

Now, about that R-rating … sure, there are a couple of bloody scenes, but I’ve seen worse in Jaws, and that’s rated PG! (Okay, so maybe the film board was lenient on Jaws.)
 
Glad you got to see the movie. These productions Don’t have the big budgets
for big Hollywood stars and many might feel it would damage their career to be in
a movie like this. And they Don’t have the big bucks for the screenplay either and
dialogue development.
Look at the power Alyssa Milano had trying to boycott that state of Georgia and about
100 Hollywood big names signed her petition.
I am not that familiar with the song you are
referencing.
Do you think this movie will change some
people’s hearts about abortion?
 
7_Sorrows said:
I am not that familiar with the song you are
referencing.
Do you think this movie will change some
people’s hearts about abortion?
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The song “Overcomer” is an upbeat Christian song that was a #1 hit for singer Mandisa. The theme of the song is overcoming obstacles through faith. I just felt it really inappropriate to use in a scene where you know abortions are being performed.

As for your last question, I’ve already seen some reports of people’s minds being changed to pro-life.
 
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