"Unplanned" the movie

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Again, you avoid my question.
Why do you say pro-life advocates have an image of being dishonest and conniving conspiracy theorists?
Do you think you can be specific?
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Jbrady said:
our efforts would be better spent on alleviating the social problems that drive women to seek abortions.
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If they’re “driven” to abortion, then they necessarily lack free will and rational cognitive function, which they do not.

Notice you’ll hear the same pro-choice people argue
(A) Women are forced/driven to have abortion
(B) Women are strong and independent thinkers
Both can’t be true.
 
Did you even read this opinion piece, which, by the way, is outdated. It was written over 2 years ago.
She writes the pro-lifers need to reclaim their image from how they are portrayed in the mainstream media. The negative image is created by the mainstream media and Hollywood elites who want to
bully everyone to think like they do.
It seems you are buying into what the mainstream media wants to make everyone believe the pro-life movement
is about. I am not ashamed to be pro-life
or volunteer for 40 Days of Life.
 
7_Sorrows said:
It seems you are buying into what the mainstream media wants to make everyone believe the pro-life movement
is about.
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I’ve been active in the pro-life community for forty-odd years. Blaming our poor public image on “the mainstream media and the Hollywood elites” is erroneous and counterproductive. The damage is almost entirely self-inflicted.

Sorry, but it looks as if we are never going to agree on this. There is no point in discussing it further.
 
I’d hope you’d have as much of a problem with abortion itself as you seem to have with members of the pro-life community.
 
FirstFiveEighth said:
Have you seen the movie or are you just harping on it?

I would say that any movie with such a huge disparity between critic reviews and audience reviews is a pretty good indicator that the critic reviews are worthless. Seriously, 50% to 94% disparity. That reeks of critic bias.
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But there’s audience bias as well. If you go to see Unplanned, it’s extremely likely that you already share in its viewpoint, and thus would be predisposed to like it as a result. Meanwhile, it’s not high-profile enough that people who disagree with it are likely to “review-bomb” it en masse to lower the score.
Especially when you read them and they amount to “meh I like planned parenthood, meh prolife people are stupid”.
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I’ll admit I only read a few negative reviews, but none of the ones I read said anything like that.
 
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7_Sorrows:
It seems you are buying into what the mainstream media wants to make everyone believe the pro-life movement
is about.
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I’ve been active in the pro-life community for forty-odd years. Blaming our poor public image on “the mainstream media and the Hollywood elites” is erroneous and counterproductive. The damage is almost entirely self-inflicted.

Sorry, but it looks as if we are never going to agree on this. There is no point in discussing it further.
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It is not erroneous and counterproductive.
The mainstream media and the Hollywood elites are pro-choice, bottom
line. Destroying a human life in the womb is inconsequential to them, and obviously
they don’t want to be told something they
want could be illegal.
Right now Hollywood elites are “blackmailing” the state of Georgia because they dared to introduce the heartbeat abortion bill into the legislature so they want to boycott and threaten not to work there. They are bullies. They want to paint an image of the pro-life movement as negatively as they can.
Everyone I have met in the movement are average everyday people. We are not extremists yelling and shouting.
There will always be unplanned and unwanted pregnancies, unfortunately.
We are humans. Yes, we need to be able to reduce the number of these unplanned
and unwanted pregnancies.
 
Jbrady said:
Uncharitable comments like that drive people away from the movement.
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Catholics are concerned with truth, not with numbers of people.

Look at Jesus in John 6:60. Jesus tells the crowd they must eat his flesh and drink his blood for eternal life and the crowd all starts to leave. Even disciples say "“This is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?”. and Jesus responded “Do you want to go away?” Clearly, Jesus was concerned with truth not with numbers. He wasn’t playing a numbers game. He didn’t say “I better not say this or the crowd will leave!” He even invited his own disciples to leave if they didn’t like the truth.
 
I’m hoping I can see this this weekend. I checked Rotten Tomatoes and saw that the professional reviewers (who could be called elites) didn’t like the film. Comments ranged from calling it a made-for-Cable movie, to calling it something that was only serving to line the producers’ pockets, to the statement by Roger Moore of Movie Nation:

Let’s just hope this latest Pure Flix propaganda doesn’t actually incite violence.

Note, he doesn’t say who the violence would be directed at, but I believe the implication is that the movie will cause viewers to commit acts of violence against abortion clinics.

Although actual viewers haven’t posted reviews (maybe something the above people can do), the “Audience Score” is “93% liked it.”
 
So we don’t remember how one said I reject your sources about14 hours ago? Okay.
 
JSRG said:
I’ll admit I only read a few negative reviews, but none of the ones I read said anything like that.
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I suggest you look again, as Roger Moore of Movie Nation stated:

Let’s just hope this latest Pure Flix propaganda doesn’t actually incite violence.
 
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Yeah 93% liked it!
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I’m talking about the critic reviews.
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The critic’s reviews on conservative movies and documentaries are notoriously skewed to the left.

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I am thankful Rotten Tomatoes is fair and gives the audience score alongside the
critics score.
 
If you find “our” movement so abysmal, I find it hard to believe you would stay in it for 40 years when you have nothing positive to say about the pro-life movement.
And how do you approach the obviously hard core pro-abortion people? What exactly do YOU tell them about being pro-life and against abortion because many
will never waver.
 
7_Sorrows said:
If you find “our” movement so abysmal
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I most certainly did not say out movement was abysmal. I said our public relations has been abysmal.

Comments like that convince me that you are not at all interested in having an intelligent discussion.

Have a nice day.
 
You had nothing positive to say about the
pro-life movement. And yet you have been active for 40 years. Something doesn’t add up. And you didn’t answer
my questions.
 
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