Unreported Terrorist Attacks covered up?

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I guess like the Bowling Green one?

As the days pass, and he’s getting more and more :confused: I don’t know what to say anymore.

Among the defense of this :hypno: it will be fake news, or the left really hates Trump, or of course the media doesn’t tell us about terrorists because of Soros. And of course abortion.

The fact that our president just shoots out stuff like this should really alarm us.

I’m on my phone, so I can’t put in a link.

On YouTube search Johnny Iselin Manchurian candidate.
 
Michael_Mayo said:
But no examples or evidence. How much are we supposed to take from this man? Even comparing the US with "murderous Russia?

mobile.twitter.com/davidmackau/status/828679879763820544

cnn.com/2017/02/04/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin/
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I did not, and do not, approve of what Trump said. But one does remember the Diem assassination, the attempts on Castro’s life, turning Saddam over to the Iraqi Shiite government, knowing full well they would kill him. And what about the torture deal of Quaddhaffi, which amused Hillary Clinton so much she laughed out loud about it.

Now, a person can argue all day long about the merits of any of those, and one can argue (as I would) that an American president shouldn’t say such things publicly. But we can’t deny they happened and were a long way from being “pure”.

It is amusing, though, to see so many former defenders of Putin now condemn him.
 
Vouthon said:
In foreign circles, this is the most ridiculous statement he has made yet. Unfounded, profoundly unhelpful to anyone and frankly it sounds unhinged.

He seems to be getting worse rather than better.
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I am not sure why people are up in arms about the statement, isn’t this the exact sentiment what people on the left (and even some on the right) have been saying for years? Slavery, Jim Crow, Native American genocide, torture and waterboarding, imperialism, bombing civilians, funding terrorists/supporting Israel and the list goes on. 🤷
 
I believe we have serious attacks in America in which the motive is kept hidden from the public. The DC snipers were probably the best example.
 
jilly4ski said:
I am not sure why people are up in arms about the statement, isn’t this the exact sentiment what people on the left (and even some on the right) have been saying for years? Slavery, Jim Crow, Native American genocide, torture and waterboarding, imperialism, bombing civilians, funding terrorists/supporting Israel and the list goes on. 🤷
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This is in no way the same as the things you are mentioning. I am struggling to see ANY connection.

Can you explain the connection/similarity you see?
 
Michael_Mayo said:
But no examples or evidence. How much are we supposed to take from this man? Even comparing the US with "murderous Russia?

mobile.twitter.com/davidmackau/status/828679879763820544

cnn.com/2017/02/04/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin/
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Let’s call him a liar for now until we are made aware of his information and then when it comes to light that he was right let’s be fair and give him the benefit of the doubt.
I’m thinking we have to thank the Dems who put forward such a candidate that no deplorable could vote for. Then they tried to stack the deck and cheat in the Primaries and in the General Elections to get her to win. It didn’t work. But it is the fault of the DNC. They need to look in the mirror to discover who to blame because we have DT. Now give the guy a chance…
 
Yes, I agree, the normal political alliances seem upside-down. I have a very liberal co-worker who is afraid that Trump will get rid of NATO, and not defend the Baltics against Russia. LMBU - - all of a sudden, the liberals are worried that we won’t use our military!

All the talk in the 80s - - oh, the Russians are people just like us, even the song by Sting “The Russians love their children too”. Presumably the Republicans were demonizing and de-humanizing them too much. Now Trump loves them too much. Even Bernie Sanders honeymooned in the Soviet Union, I’m sure he loved the Soviet Union plenty to do that. We’re a long way from when Reagan called the Soviet Union an “evil empire” and all the Democrats were outraged and worried!
 
27lw said:
Even Bernie Sanders honeymooned in the Soviet Union, I’m sure he loved the Soviet Union plenty to do that.
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I don’t know. I’ve traveled to Communist countries (the U.S.S.R. and Cuba). Doesn’t mean I really loved those countries (certainly not more than the United States), or loved their political systems (although the Cuban people, in particular, were wonderful).

Senator Sanders might have traveled there because he was interested, like me.
 
petra22 said:
Let’s call him a liar for now until we are made aware of his information and then when it comes to light that he was right let’s be fair and give him the benefit of the doubt.
I’m thinking we have to thank the Dems who put forward such a candidate that no deplorable could vote for. Then they tried to stack the deck and cheat in the Primaries and in the General Elections to get her to win. It didn’t work. But it is the fault of the DNC. They need to look in the mirror to discover who to blame because we have DT. Now give the guy a chance…
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How much of a chance does he need? Every day is a step deeper into the absurd.
 
Ridgerunner said:
I did not, and do not, approve of what Trump said. But one does remember the Diem assassination, the attempts on Castro’s life, turning Saddam over to the Iraqi Shiite government, knowing full well they would kill him. And what about the torture deal of Quaddhaffi, which amused Hillary Clinton so much she laughed out loud about it.

Now, a person can argue all day long about the merits of any of those, and one can argue (as I would) that an American president shouldn’t say such things publicly. But we can’t deny they happened and were a long way from being “pure”.

It is amusing, though, to see so many former defenders of Putin now condemn him.
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None of that compares to this:

“Here’s a list of Putin critics who’ve ended up dead”

businessinsider.com/list-of-people-putin-is-suspected-of-assassinating-2016-3
 
jilly4ski said:
I am not sure why people are up in arms about the statement, isn’t this the exact sentiment what people on the left (and even some on the right) have been saying for years? Slavery, Jim Crow, Native American genocide, torture and waterboarding, imperialism, bombing civilians, funding terrorists/supporting Israel and the list goes on. 🤷
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no
 
Michael_Mayo said:
But no examples or evidence. How much are we supposed to take from this man? Even comparing the US with "murderous Russia?

mobile.twitter.com/davidmackau/status/828679879763820544
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cnn.com/2017/02/04/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin/
Mary_Gail_36 said:
I guess like the Bowling Green one?

As the days pass, and he’s getting more and more :confused: I don’t know what to say anymore.

Among the defense of this :hypno: it will be fake news, or the left really hates Trump, or of course the media doesn’t tell us about terrorists because of Soros. And of course abortion.

The fact that our president just shoots out stuff like this should really alarm us.

I’m on my phone, so I can’t put in a link.

On YouTube search Johnny Iselin Manchurian candidate.
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Vouthon said:
In foreign circles, this is the most ridiculous statement he has made yet. Unfounded, profoundly unhelpful to anyone and frankly it sounds unhinged.

He seems to be getting worse rather than better.
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Seamus_L said:
I believe we have serious attacks in America in which the motive is kept hidden from the public. The DC snipers were probably the best example.
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You and Trump will have to provide very concrete evidence of any of this otherwise it’s just unfounded fear mongering propaganda.

This “president” (though he is Not My President) has lied and spouted compete fictions to inflame opinion as if that is supposed to legitimize his agenda for power from the beginning of his campaign. Even now he and his cronies like Spicer and Conway have persisted in this same tactic.

They apparently firmly believe in the same tactics of another well known tyrant who said,
“The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.”

“The greater the lie, the greater the chance that it will be believed.”

“Keep a very firm grasp on reality, so you can strangle it at any time.”

“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”

“All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.”

“How fortunate for leaders that men do not think.”

“Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.”

“The leader of genius must have the ability to make different opponents appear as if they belonged to one category.”

“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed”

“It is not truth that matters, but victory”

“The art of leadership. . . consists in consolidating the attention of the people against a single adversary and taking care that nothing will split up that attention. . . .”

“Success is the sole earthly judge of right and wrong.”

You guys figure out who said all that.
 
petra22 said:
Let’s call him a liar for now until we are made aware of his information and then when it comes to light that he was right let’s be fair and give him the benefit of the doubt.
I’m thinking we have to thank the Dems who put forward such a candidate that no deplorable could vote for. Then they tried to stack the deck and cheat in the Primaries and in the General Elections to get her to win. It didn’t work. But it is the fault of the DNC. They need to look in the mirror to discover who to blame because we have DT. Now give the guy a chance…
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Well I suppose that looking the mirror could start in the republican primaries, with all of the never Trump people who capitulated against principle to the allure of power.

Deplorable? There are still people posting here about the killing, the enabling, the criminality of HRC. Even after the election when there is really no reason to perpetuate these alt-facts. People there should be some looking in the mirror about that.

GIve the guy a chance? The rookie in the mailroom, sure. The POTUS. That why we have the 25th…
 
Michael_Mayo said:
None of that compares to this:

“Here’s a list of Putin critics who’ve ended up dead”

businessinsider.com/list-of-people-putin-is-suspected-of-assassinating-2016-3
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Clinton Body Count or Left-Wing Conspiracy? Three With Ties to DNC Mysteriously Died

[THE CLINTON BODY-COUNT | WHAT REALLY HAPPENED]List referred to in article linked above](http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php#axzz4EEtsFCJy]List referred to in article linked above).

Either a person can think this is all part of the “vast right-wing conspiracy” against the Clintons, in which case, maybe there is a vast rught-wing conspiracy in Russia too, or… not.
 
Ridgerunner;14456421 [/QUOTE said:
Yes, I thought about that…
“And what about the torture deal of Quaddhaffi, which amused Hillary Clinton so much she laughed out loud about it.”
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Inisfallen said:
I don’t know. I’ve traveled to Communist countries (the U.S.S.R. and Cuba). Doesn’t mean I really loved those countries (certainly not more than the United States), or loved their political systems (although the Cuban people, in particular, were wonderful).

Senator Sanders might have traveled there because he was interested, like me.
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Thans you Inisfallen, I read a bit more about Sanders’ “honeymoon” in the Soviet Union:
Sanders and his wife did travel to Yaroslavl, a city in the Soviet Union, after their wedding in 1988. In the sense that the trip came after the couple were married, the trip was a honeymoon. The two have also referred to the trip that way, albeit sarcastically at times.
But it was an unusual honeymoon, to say the least. The trip’s primary purpose was diplomacy, not leisure, and included about 10 extra guests.
In a 2007 interview, Jane Sanders also recalled the peculiar timing: “The day after we got married, we marched in a Memorial Day parade, and then we took off in a plane to start the sister city project with Yaroslavl with 10 other people on my honeymoon.”
 
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