No…when was “your” Creed (not The Catholic Church Creed) established?
Leave our Creed out of it.
That’s Catholic business as it was created by The Catholic Church.
Yes, it was. We, the Orthodox Catholic Church.
And your innovative Creed from Spain, our Pope Leo III of Rome distinguished it from our (and his) ORTHODOX (his word) Catholic Creed
You went way out on a limb this time:
What Fathers? The Catholic Church Fathers?
There weren’t any “Orthodox Churches” back then, so it couldn’t Orthodox Church Fathers (unless along with our Bible, you want to hijack them too and try to claim them as your own when none made any allegiance to The Orthodox Church that wouldn’t exist until the 11th Century and all (a-l-l) proclaimed their allegiance to The Bishop of Rome when the Creed was created.
At the time of the Creed’s composition, the Meletian schism was going on in Antioch. Rome appointed a Palinus to succeed Meletius, who had been deposed. The Orthodox Catholics Iincluding John Chrysostom, whom you claim as a Doctor of your church) stuck to him though, and rejected Paulinus. Rome excommunicated Meletius and anathematized him, and insisted that Paulinus be recognized: it was he who ordained Jerome (whose whinny correspondence, with ultranmontanist glimmerings, to Rome survive). Meletius tried to reason with Paulinus, that when one died, the other would succeed him, but Paulinus refused.
When the Council gathered at Constantinople to finalize the Creed, St. Gregory (another your church claims as a Doctor) deferred to St. Meletius to preside (the 2nd Council had the most saints,btw). NO ONE from Rome attended. When St. Meletius died while the Council was meeting, Paulinus, with Rome’s backng, tried to get recognized as Meletius had offered. The Fathers ABSOLLUTELY refused, and ordained Flavian instead. The Fathers also made Constantionple of like rank with Rome, as the new capital. Rome refused to recognize the change or Flavian, and excommunicated both Constantinople and Antioch.
Paulinus’ line of bishops, supported by Rome, died out. Not one of your 4 lines of patriarchs at Antioch claim succession from him, all claim succession from St. Meletius, whom one of your popes put on the saints’ calendar.
The Creed was written in Greek. Eventually Rome submitted to it, although she had no hand it its composition. Eventually too, she had to accept the status of Constantinople.
So the Creed composed in another language by Fathers, NONE of whom submitted to Rome, expliciely so, who were presided by one condemned by Rome, who ignored Rome,…how again is it YOUR Creed, as you ultramontanists, as the record shows, had no part in creating it?
