Update on PennitentMan: My wife is

[monicatholic]

It is in dying, that we come to life. A paradox often used in scripture. When I accepted my ‘death’ (and that is what it felt like), that was when I was released.

yes. that has been my experience, too. that is the experience of which i was writing when i related my conversion experience at 5 months pregnant. i had to die to Christ. give it all up.

i call those few really astonishing death/ resurrection conversion experiences my "best/ worst days".

those ***“best/ worst days” *** seem to be the essence of authentic Chrisitanity-- to experience crucifixion and resurrection, like breathing in and out, Good Friday and Easter.

in the end, though, Easter will prevail.

but we are not to the end yet.

finally:

Penitent Man, a more careful reading has me aware that you are on antidepresants. please bring this episode of despair to your therapist. if the therapist is not helping, continue to see him/her all the while praying for a good Catholic (at least Christian) therapist who is not philosophically opposed to medication therapy.

 

[PennitentMan]

Penitent Man, a more careful reading has me aware that you are on antidepresants. please bring this episode of despair to your therapist. if the therapist is not helping, continue to see him/her all the while praying for a good Catholic (at least Christian) therapist who is not philosophically opposed to medication therapy.

I have no therapist.

It’s a herbal anti-depressant called St. John’s Wort. I started myself on it…

 

[kage_ar]

Take it one step at a time.

You live in a small apartment with a child and another on the way. Unless there is a lease term that says you can only have one child in the apartment, is there a reason to move? Babies are small Kids can share a bedroom, kids can wear/use hand-me-downs. Breastfeeding is FREE! Diapers and another car seat are about the only real expense for the first months.

Get involved with your Parish, make friends, get to know your Parish family. People need family/friends, we are not designed to live in little isolated groups of mom dad and kids, God designed us to be part of an extended family/community.

Many prayers for you!

 

[whatevergirl]

PM;

Have you shared your sadness with your wife?

 

[PennitentMan]

PM;

Have you shared your sadness with your wife?

No. How can I? It would devistate her.

I’ll have to find a very very perfect time and take a huge curveball road. I’m still looking for this opportunity.

 

[whatevergirl]

No. How can I? It would devistate her.

I’ll have to find a very very perfect time and take a huge curveball road. I’m still looking for this opportunity.

I understand, but she might surprise you. Sometimes, our fears are what we imagine happening…the actual event might not be that bad… I’m just saying…true improvement might take you to share some of what you have shared here, with her. We can offer advice…but you just never know…she might be open to hearing this…of course, timing is everything. But, in pieces here and there…have talks. Of course, I wouldn’t just dump all of this on her at once…but, if things are ever going to get any better–it will take you trusting God to give you the right words to talk to her…I will continue to pray for you and her. Hope I’ve helped…sorry, it’s all I can think to say.

 

[PennitentMan]

I understand, but she might surprise you. Sometimes, our fears are what we imagine happening…the actual event might not be that bad… I’m just saying…true improvement might take you to share some of what you have shared here, with her. We can offer advice…but you just never know…she might be open to hearing this…of course, timing is everything. But, in pieces here and there…have talks. Of course, I wouldn’t just dump all of this on her at once…but, if things are ever going to get any better–it will take you trusting God to give you the right words to talk to her…I will continue to pray for you and her. Hope I’ve helped…sorry, it’s all I can think to say.

Thank you.

I am planning on talking with her, I really am. Thank you for the kind words, they mean a lot!

 

[Mirror_Mirror]

Thank you.

I am planning on talking with her, I really am. Thank you for the kind words, they mean a lot!

I thought you were done with this for a while :doh2:

Just messing with you PM, sombody’s gotta do it!!

 

[Truly_Beloved]

Pennitent Man, if you live in the Phoenix area, I’d love to help your family somehow (even if it’s simple, like setting up play dates with your wife and little one). I have never offered this to anyone before, but the Spirit just moved me, I guess. My heart just breaks for you. PM me, if you’d like, if you live near Phoenix.

 

[Mirdath]

As you probably know, we here at the casa de Mirdath have been following your story with interest and concern, and I must say, we about tipped over laughing with happiness for you when after all that time, you hit it out of the park in one! Wouldn’t it just figure?

But as for feeling down, well, just hold on. You say she’s two months along, so no wonder she’s sick as a dog. Very possibly you’re feeling a great deal of sympathetic and pheromonal/hormonal reaction to the pregnancy too, which may not be too good for your state of mind, let alone hers, but things can change very quickly. Hopefully as the morning sickness clears up, things will mellow out, and since she initiated the last time you two got together, I’d take that as a pretty good sign – hormones aren’t ALL bad! ‘Called to submission’ phooey – I mean, if she’s feeling that bad, relations could make her very nauseous, which at least to me sounds…unbedroomy, to say the least. You can take it, just a few more weeks, then maybe you two can be close and enjoy each other a while before buckling down to those last three months.

Just as an aside, she isn’t taking St John’s wort, is she? It’s not a good idea to touch that stuff when one is pregnant.

Wow though. We do think of you and your family warmly, and wish you the very best (which is the nontheist’s version of praying for you if you like).

All this rapid change, it’s got to be overwhelming I know, but looking back, it seems as if things are already getting better between you two, from my distant point of view. Not immediately maybe, but it’s happening. Maybe it’s harder to see when you’re in the trees, especially since they just grew a whole lots thicker and higher all of a sudden? And maybe I don’t know much about submitting to a deity, but I do know that we must submit to our bodies sometimes, and certainly pregnancy is one of those times! So yes, you’re both submitting to the needs of your unborn child right now – may as well get back in practice.

 

[PennitentMan]

I thought you were done with this for a while :doh2:

Just messing with you PM, sombody’s gotta do it!!

Yeah, I try, I really do, but I just find myself back here…

 

[PennitentMan]

Pennitent Man, if you live in the Phoenix area, I’d love to help your family somehow (even if it’s simple, like setting up play dates with your wife and little one). I have never offered this to anyone before, but the Spirit just moved me, I guess. My heart just breaks for you. PM me, if you’d like, if you live near Phoenix.

This is so very nice of you! Thank you for this offer, wow.

I’m quite far from the Phoenix area, so unfortunately I can’t take you up on tha, but thanks so much, it means so much to me that you did offer.

PM

 

[PennitentMan]

As you probably know, we here at the casa de Mirdath have been following your story with interest and concern, and I must say, we about tipped over laughing with happiness for you when after all that time, you hit it out of the park in one! Wouldn’t it just figure?

Yeah, just my luck…And mow we are even less sexually active than before.

You can take it, just a few more weeks, then maybe you two can be close and enjoy each other a while before buckling down to those last three months.

I hope so!

Just as an aside, she isn’t taking St John’s wort, is she? It’s not a good idea to touch that stuff when one is pregnant.

No, she’s very careful with what she takes and she is not on St. John’s Wort at all.

Wow though. We do think of you and your family warmly, and wish you the very best (which is the nontheist’s version of praying for you if you like).

Thank you