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(Please don’t report/delete this. I’m not trying to start anything, I am asking a serious question).
It seems that certain traditionalist groups have left me feeling confused and ambivalent about my faith. One thing that traditionalists doggedly talk about it how religious liberty and, by extension, all forms of classical liberalism, are heretical and modernist, since they are an affront to the social Kingship of Christ.
Now, I’ve pored over and read reconciliations between Vatican II documents and the works of Pope’s Pius IX and X, Leo XIII, among others. I understand the difference in what they are talking about, respectively. The pre-V2 crowd is condemning religious indifferentism, while On Human Dignity is speaking about freedom from coercion. Error does not have rights, but those in error do.
Still, the traditionalist rhetoric often leaves me unsettled. It makes me question my own orthodoxy, and whether the average Catholic parish is truly faithful. It’s comparable to gaslighting.
What’s more, it has caused me to distrust both regular, faithful Catholics and self-proclaimed Traditionalists. The former because they may be hoodwinked by the “Spirit of Vatican II”, and the latter because they give me the impression that I’m a heretic unless I advocate a Catholic police state that beats up nonbelievers and heretics.
There was also a case of an SSPX school in Kansas that would play in a basketball game because one referee was a woman, and that “women should not have authority over men”.
Now I have been staying away from Catholic websites for months now, but I am unable to completely banish these doubts and worries. It’s getting to the point where I assume the worst of traditionalists, that they’re all fascists whose pores emit pure malice at the mention of Jews or Protestants (okay, this is mostly me exaggerating to entertain myself). But what can I do about this? How can I be more charitable and have peace of mind?
It seems that certain traditionalist groups have left me feeling confused and ambivalent about my faith. One thing that traditionalists doggedly talk about it how religious liberty and, by extension, all forms of classical liberalism, are heretical and modernist, since they are an affront to the social Kingship of Christ.
Now, I’ve pored over and read reconciliations between Vatican II documents and the works of Pope’s Pius IX and X, Leo XIII, among others. I understand the difference in what they are talking about, respectively. The pre-V2 crowd is condemning religious indifferentism, while On Human Dignity is speaking about freedom from coercion. Error does not have rights, but those in error do.
Still, the traditionalist rhetoric often leaves me unsettled. It makes me question my own orthodoxy, and whether the average Catholic parish is truly faithful. It’s comparable to gaslighting.
What’s more, it has caused me to distrust both regular, faithful Catholics and self-proclaimed Traditionalists. The former because they may be hoodwinked by the “Spirit of Vatican II”, and the latter because they give me the impression that I’m a heretic unless I advocate a Catholic police state that beats up nonbelievers and heretics.
There was also a case of an SSPX school in Kansas that would play in a basketball game because one referee was a woman, and that “women should not have authority over men”.
Now I have been staying away from Catholic websites for months now, but I am unable to completely banish these doubts and worries. It’s getting to the point where I assume the worst of traditionalists, that they’re all fascists whose pores emit pure malice at the mention of Jews or Protestants (okay, this is mostly me exaggerating to entertain myself). But what can I do about this? How can I be more charitable and have peace of mind?
