Urgings to become Muslim

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I converted to Islam for about 6 years; then started looking back at it again (but recently squashed that).
Then i felt a pull back to church; Islam was not all it seem.
(but what religion is) I feel more at “home” in the church.

YES Islam seems like a good idea and it seems very simple and you are like “gee why didn’t I Of think of that”, but its more complicated than that.
It contradicts EVERYTHING Christ lived and stood for.
I am not saying the church is perfect either; but Islam is FAR from the church. You need to do LOTS of reading about this!

A lot of these Islamic message boards are a good place to start.

Look how they defend bad behavior or refuse to address it.

I have even seen a thread defend a man with 56 kids and and they hate such criticisms from their own people. (TTI) Often those (who once was me) was told i “was NOT a Muslim” because i ask such questions.

Any infraction on you or Islam …you are told shayton (Satan) is telling you these things.

message me if you want some details.
 
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.I also am wondering who taught you that Jesus was God the Father?
As Randomguy has mentioned, you hold to several misinterpretations of Catholic teaching and the above is an example of such a misinterpretation. Yes, the Church teaches that Jesus is God Incarnate; the Church, however, does NOT teach that He is God the Father Incarnate. He is God the Son Incarnate - the Second Person of the Most Holy Trinity become Man.

Your misunderstanding of this teaching is why I previously recommended to you Frank Sheed’s Theology for Beginners. It seems you are contemplating leaving the Church precisely because you have such a poor understanding of it and are reacting to what you THINK the Church teaches. Your reading Sheed’s book along with the Catechism of the Catholic Church would go a long way to correcting your misunderstandings.
 
For some reason I have a re-occuring attraction to Islam. I don’t know why. I pray to God my Father to guide me to Him and I am attracted to Islam.
I wonder what’s going on?
You are being tempted by Satan, the author of Islam.

You are being asked to believe that Gabriel – the very same angel who announced to Zechariah the birth of John the Baptist, the very same angel who presented to Mary God the Father’s request that she become the mother of His Son – that this angel somehow came to Mohammed with some special revelation that contradicts the teaching that Jesus Christ, the son of Mary, is the Son of God, the Second Person of the Most Holy Trinity made man.

You are being tempted. Pray the Rosary, whether you feel like it or not. Pray for the intercession of the Mother of God, who crushed the serpent under her heel.
 
As Randomguy has mentioned, you hold to several misinterpretations of Catholic teaching and the above is an example of such a misinterpretation. Yes, the Church teaches that Jesus is God Incarnate; the Church, however, does NOT teach that He is God the Father Incarnate. He is God the Son Incarnate - the Second Person of the Most Holy Trinity become Man.

Your misunderstanding of this teaching is why I previously recommended to you Frank Sheed’s Theology for Beginners. It seems you are contemplating leaving the Church precisely because you have such a poor understanding of it and are reacting to what you THINK the Church teaches. Your reading Sheed’s book along with the Catechism of the Catholic Church would go a long way to correcting your misunderstandings.
Everytime uglygal gets confused she resorts to attacking the Catholic faith, so her misinterpretations are nothing new. She just posted on another thread the other day that Catholic Apparitions are “superstitions” . I frankly and to be blunt am tired of her thread’s and wish that others would see the bigger picture as to why she is constantly going back and forth on loving her God, to rejecting Jesus, to attending mass and then having urgings to become a Muslim. I wouldn’t be surprised if she created another thread in having urgings to become a Hare Krishna.

**I feel there is big leg pulling going on **and am not be afraid to say so. If that gets me suspended or banned then so be it. Yes, I could ignore her threads but I am sick and tired of people on CAF giving her all this attention in wanting to help her and then she goes and attacks the Catholic Church.

There comes a point where charity is only enabling the person and not helping…Uglygal’s spiritual/personal problems are matters that need to be addressed in real life and cannot be dealt with adequately on CAF forums.

Peace.
 
I didn’t realise I would have such an effect on some people. I didn’t think I was attacking the church at all and that I am leg-pulling? 🤷

It’s nothing new that people see the worst and expect the worst … at least not in my experience. Perhaps at times I don;t make sense to people but that may be due to the mental illness I suffer from. I don’t make sense to myself at times :o
Faith in god can be hard when your normality depends on whether you’ve taken your meds in the morning or not … but unless YOU have some mental illness than you would not know what I talking about would you 😉

I can take a hint tho.

In most communities, including the Church when I used to go to it almost everyday, I never got any help from people other than “you should pray more” or I’m “demonically oppressed”.
Here at least SOME people would hear me out and try to help me. That’s why I at times bring here some of the deeper spiritual problems I have because in “real life” I can’t.
I’m sorry I get in people’s way so much and annoy people. I’m not a bad and evil person …
Just to make you happy and to not sully these forums with my presence anymore I’ll ask to be banned from here myself. That way I can’t come here even when I want to.
 
I didn’t realise I would have such an effect on some people. I didn’t think I was attacking the church at all and that I am leg-pulling? 🤷

It’s nothing new that people see the worst and expect the worst … at least not in my experience. Perhaps at times I don;t make sense to people but that may be due to the mental illness I suffer from. I don’t make sense to myself at times :o
Faith in god can be hard when your normality depends on whether you’ve taken your meds in the morning or not … but unless YOU have some mental illness than you would not know what I talking about would you 😉

I can take a hint tho.

In most communities, including the Church when I used to go to it almost everyday, I never got any help from people other than “you should pray more” or I’m “demonically oppressed”.
Here at least SOME people would hear me out and try to help me. That’s why I at times bring here some of the deeper spiritual problems I have because in “real life” I can’t.
I’m sorry I get in people’s way so much and annoy people. I’m not a bad and evil person …
Just to make you happy and to not sully these forums with my presence anymore I’ll ask to be banned from here myself. That way I can’t come here even when I want to.
After reading this whole thread, I guess I missed it… why are you feeling an urge toward Islam? What are you hoping to gain again from Islam?

This is just my 2 cents… I don’t blame my lack of faith on MY mental illness. I do know what it’s like. My lack of faith was always my issue. Even at my lowest points, when I would turn my back on God, Son & Holy Spirit, they were there. They never turned their back on me. It was just easier for me to have my pity party, feel miserable, blame everyone including Jesus for my problems instead of taking responsibility for my thoughts and actions.

I used to read tarot cards and people thought I was gifted. I looked for God in all sorts of places and then the Holy Spirit led me back home. I didn’t even know what the Divine Mercy Chaplet was until last year. The rosary used to only pray before attending a funeral.

I know this sounds like a crazy rant but I promise I am going somewhere with this…

You mentioned that you wanted something simple… I wish I could give you a simple answer but you know that nothing worth having is ever simple or easy. Think of God’s only son, our Lord, Jesus Christ, not even his death was simple or easy.

Being a Catholic isn’t easy. We are always children learning to walk. We will stumble. We will fall. But we have to keep striving and with the help of the Trinity we maybe able to run in Heaven.
 
I: I also am wondering who taught you that Jesus was God the Father?
Uglygal: The catholic church. Unless I’ve got it wrong, doesn’t the Catholic church teach that Jesus is God incarnate?.

**With respect, dear soul, I get the distinct impression from these words and other postings of yours that you don’t have an accurate idea of what Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular teach. Other people have noticed the same thing.

Is there some kind of refresher course in Christian doctrine you can take–even if it’s auditing RICA?**. .
 
Dear sister in faith, I urge you, before you commit to your thoughts of Islam, read about Mohammed. He suffered from epilepsy, and his so-called visions, which were nothing more than epileptic experiences, were interpreted by his wife. He was extremely influenced by his wife and her interpretations. She instilled in him the viciousness of the the muslim faith, kill the infidels.You will hear all kind of views from muslims, but the bottom line is there is one true faith, and that is christianity and the Catholic church. I searched other religions and denominations,but I could not be drawn away from my catholic faith. Jesus had His hold on me and He was not going to let me go astray. If you pray with a sincere heart, and I mean really sincere, to Jesus and our blessed Mother Mary, you will not be disappointed. I have had many miraculous experiences in my life of 76 years and I would be more than glad to share them with you, if you so desire. Perhaps through private emails. I do not try to convert others, they must seek it for themselves and if they do it according to Jesus’ teachings and sacrifices, they will not be ignored or abandoned. May our Lord Jesus Christ assist and guide you.
 
I personally have never had the urgings to become a muslim. I pray that you will overcome these urgings.
 
Ok I’ve read a bit more of your posts, instead of getting upset over the posts, and instead of looking for answers here and there.

Take time off from the internet, leave it alone for a week, 2 weeks, 3 weeks, however long you need to. Pray, pray to Th ae Father if that is what you are comfortable in doing, the Virgin Mary, if you wish to do so.

Things will come to light.
 
Hi gal,

I have seen many of your messages. I am not sure. But have you ever heard of a bible study called Our Father’s Plan ?

It is a wonderfull study to listen too and I am recommending to all my friends and family.

I would recommend strongly to you. It is easy. Just audio mp3 you can download and listen too at your pace whether on your computer or your portable player.

This site is also full of other audio files you can listen to.

the reason I recommend them to you and anyone interested, is because for me they have helped me to understand what it is really that Christians believe in (and sometimes non-christians when they are converts).

So enjoy.

God bless
 
if you decide to become a muslim and still want to bond with people of other faiths, be prepared to receive a tap on the shoulder urging you to keep the only to the muslim way.throughout history since 7th. cent. islam have taken over egypt, palestine, syria ,persia, north africa. and not once have bonded with the cultures of the peoples they have conquered.on this morning news in indonesia, a christian leader has been given life for waving a flag, and this is a counntry that allows bombers to go free, so be careful and pray.
 
Just be warned that you won’t find God the Father in Islam, but god the slave-master, a spiteful, vengeful and capricious god with no compassion for his creatures.

Now, if you want God Who loves you as His own child, full of compassion and always ready to forgive, you’ll only find Him in the church His Son founded, the Catholic Church.

:blessyou:
 
How often do you go to Mass? Almost every prayer at Mass is directed to God the Father.
Wherever Jesus is…so is God. That was one of the points of Jesus staying behind at the temple when Mary & Joseph “lost” him. They thought they had lost Jesus, but His response was, “did you not know I would be in my Father’s house?” While it is an actual event in Jesus’s life it is also an allegory to teach us that if we ever lose Jesus in our lives all we have to do is go to Church and find him with His Father. They do not exist separate from each other.
 
Why don’t you go ahead and give it a shot and come back and tell us how it went.
 
go! weakness of the spirit is not an option. to be catholic requires much of oneself. it has no room for luke-warm individuals. it demands faith and knowledge of scripture. most people who fall out lack one or the other, ocassionally both.

ironically, should you pay as much attention to islam as you did christianity, no doubt you will become a budhist.

i don’ mean to sound harsh, but we are loosing to many good people.

a thought just came to me, perhaps this is exactly what GOD intends. for you to take christianity to our younger brothers. you never know. you may become the catalist for change. i wish you much luck, and i apologize to you for my earlier words.
 
Dear sister in faith, I urge you, before you commit to your thoughts of Islam, read about Mohammed. He suffered from epilepsy, and his so-called visions, which were nothing more than epileptic experiences, were interpreted by his wife. He was extremely influenced by his wife and her interpretations. She instilled in him the viciousness of the the muslim faith, kill the infidels.You will hear all kind of views from muslims, but the bottom line is there is one true faith, and that is christianity and the Catholic church. I searched other religions and denominations,but I could not be drawn away from my catholic faith. Jesus had His hold on me and He was not going to let me go astray. If you pray with a sincere heart, and I mean really sincere, to Jesus and our blessed Mother Mary, you will not be disappointed. I have had many miraculous experiences in my life of 76 years and I would be more than glad to share them with you, if you so desire. Perhaps through private emails. I do not try to convert others, they must seek it for themselves and if they do it according to Jesus’ teachings and sacrifices, they will not be ignored or abandoned. May our Lord Jesus Christ assist and guide you.
Thanks for your post.
 
I am against any suggestions of giving a try to something that you should learn about prior to involving yourself with it. You do not have to put your hand into a fire to see if it will burn you. You should be cautious, because there are different factions in all religions, and some are fanatical to the point they will not let you depart from it. To them, your interest is construed as a commitment. Too many catholics call themselves catholics, but do not practice their faith, nor do they try to strengthen their faith by learning as much as they can about their faith. I have many family members, like myself, catholics, but to them it means just going to mass on Sunday, and maybe the holy days.Anyone that considers another religion must be weak in their religion, or do not agree with its doctrine. You do not pick and choose. You either agree totally, or you go elsewhere. Where did all the different christians denominations come from, from people that disagreed with certain things they feel should be acceptable, abortion, homosexuality, and the list goes all. I have gone to different christian denominatiions, not to join or participate,but to educate myself or my friends that practice that denomination so that I can see the difference and defend mine, from which their denomination sprouted.Martin Luther broke away from the catholic church by his ignorance of his own faith, not knowing the truth. He believed that people were paying money to have their sins forgiven, but in reality, the Pope at that time was asking for people to make contributions to help maintain churches and restore churches and other historical things in the catholic church. He told them they would be blessed and receive graces for their contributions by God, not forgiveness of sins, which they would attain by becoming stronger in their faith and go to confession and do what they should be doing as a catholic. Islam, Muslims, whatever you want to call them, are way off in regards to religion. Their religion was founded by a mortal,radical, sick man,(epileptic), Mohammed, whose seizures were interpreted by his much older wife as visions from God. He became what he was by the influence of his wife and her interpretations.The muslim faith has fragmented into different factions just like the christian faith.Jesus is immortal, and history bears this out. If you question your faith, you will become either weaker of lose it, and I am referring to the one true faith, Catholicism. If you don’t know it, you will not grow in it. We have to put fertilizer on our faith, in other words, research, to make it grow and flourish. Mohammed is buried, and still lies in his tomb, Jesus rose from death, conquered death and there is evidence to prove what happened before and after His death. Miracles were performed and verified in numbers beyond comprenhension by Jesus.How many miracles were associated with Mohammed and the muslim faith. Indonesia is a muslim nation that persecutes christians, but do people see the things and catastrophies that are happening there, and who do you think is permitting these things to happen, There are people that try to dig up trash about the catholic church,to destroy it, but they end up finding the truth and become catholics. I have a neighbor that is muslim, and his hatred against the Jews was so great as a child, his mother had him and his brother sent to America to prevent them from being killed by Jewish soldiers that were defending themselves.God still loves the Jewish, Hebrew people.It is from them that the catholic church became what it is today.The Bible tells about the past and the present. Read it and absorb it, and you will know the truth, and where the catholic church came from. The apostles new the truth, and they were willing to die for their faith and the to be catholic church.Let us support our catholic brothers and sisters, not discard them to other religions or denominations. It is the way we live, not the way we talk that influences others to become catholic.
I seek not to anger, but to inform, with my limited knowledge about the catholic church. I do not know all there is to be known, but I will not cease to search even further, to know all I should know.
I believe that our Blessed Mother stated that once we are catholic, we are always a catholic. I have read so much in my hunger for my catholic faith, that it makes it difficult to state exactly where I acquired the information, but it is in line with the teachings of the church.
The catholic church did not conquer nations or areas to spread its faith. I can not say the same for Islam. Look at Iraq and the Sunni and Shiites, and even other nations. They are killing each other because of their faith.They want their religious beliefs to rule nations, which is dominated by the men. Women are treated like second class citizens, if they are fortunate enough.Their religion is dominated by men. As a catholic, I have preferences that are based on the catholic church, and believe women are treated equally. They may not become priests, but Blessed Mary was not chosen to be an apostle, but something beyond an apostle. She has and had more influence in the catholic church, even in the present age with her various apparitions. She is the Mother of the church.
Where can we find such beauty, other than in the Catholic Church. Our true faith and Mother!
 
Lovely Gal,
I had not seen this thread or would have posted sooner.
I strongly council you to resist this urge toward Islam. While I understand the attraction it can hold for you there are also great dangers, particularly for someone who is experiencing spiritual crisis. I believe these crisis would make you vulnerable to a radical aspect of some Islamic faithful who would try to turn you violently against Christianity and Judasim.

As you know, I have always tried to understand and be supportive of you because I see you as a fellow sojourner. Someone earnestly and lovingly trying to reach a real and comfortable understanding of faith. This urge feels to me to be an effort to find a faith system where you feel you, “Fit In”, thus making God in your image instead of you in His.

You have achieved some wonderful growth here in the Christian arena. You have healed many wounds. Your faith in God has held you up and protected you. you have even achieved some understanding and acceptance of Jesus as Lord and the incarnation of God’s Word. Please don’t discard this by suddenly veering off in this other direction.

Peace
James
 
Dear UG,

I’d advise you to check out this short posting by Bro. Igantius Mary on his Spiritual Warfare forum. He explains why Islam is a religion that is man-made and only borrowed the God of Abraham for its own political reasons. He explains that Islam was born in sin and cannot be redeemed.

The Hidden Face of Islam
 
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