US Bishop Change: Lansing, Michigan

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This morning the Vatican announced the retirement of Bishop Carl Frederick Mengeling and the naming of Bishop Earl Alfred Boyea, Jr. as the new Bishop of Lansing, Michigan, USA.

Bishop Boyea had been serving as an Auxiliary Bishop of Detroit.
 
It is noted that there is not much discussion as yet with this welcomed move.

We finally have a bishop. Perhaps, God willing, he will clean house like Mengeling failed to do.

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It is noted that there is not much discussion as yet with this welcomed move.

We finally have a bishop. Perhaps, God willing, he will clean house like Mengeling failed to do.

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Yeah…that darn Bishop Mengeling…gave 12 years of his faithful service when he could’ve been retired…what a waste of time his episcopacy has turned out to be.
 
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I figured that would prompt you to comment in short order… how transparent. :rolleyes:

The new Bishop actually celebrates (very often) the Extraordinary Form of the Liturgy… 👍

And the “more visibly orthodox” priests in the diocese are jumping for joy… gee, I wonder why.🤷

As always, frommi, your (name removed by moderator)ut is appreciated.

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I’m in the diocese of Lansing, and frankly I know very little about either our old bishop or the new one. I’ve only been back in the church for a year, and our parish hasn’t had a visit since I’ve been there, as far as I know. If the orthodox priests are happy, that’s a good sign.
 
What do you think that will mean - if anything - for the Lansing area? I’m not terribly familiar with Bishop Boyea, although I do know who he is.

~Liza
 
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I figured that would prompt you to comment in short order… how transparent. :rolleyes:

The new Bishop actually celebrates (very often) the Extraordinary Form of the Liturgy… 👍

And the “more visibly orthodox” priests in the diocese are jumping for joy… gee, I wonder why.🤷

As always, frommi, your (name removed by moderator)ut is appreciated.

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Cleaning up the mess = celebrating the extraordinary form of the mass

Yep…you always make such crystal clear sense in this forum.
 
It is noted that there is not much discussion as yet with this welcomed move.

We finally have a bishop. Perhaps, God willing, he will clean house like Mengeling failed to do.

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Dear MrS, I actually get a visceral, (sickening) response, usually in my gut, when I hear you speak about this bishop or that priest having it ALL wrong, for ALL those years. I just don’t know where you get your information, you can’t know everything about everything. Do you trust that each and every appointment, ordination, is based upon the movement of the Holy Spirit?, God’s Will.
I just wish you would lighten up, Good Holy men trying their best to follow God’s Will, they do not take their position lightly, and if they did, they would not have lasted as long as they do.
 
Let me clarify.

When I said we finally have a bishop:
Bishop Mengeling has told many, openly, and publically, that he IS, and has been for two years, for all practical purposes, retired. He delegated many priests to confirm this year in his place.

He had told me personally that he agrees that over half of the new Catholics on any given Easter will have left the church, or just become very inactive, within a year … and that he has no plan on what to do.

He has told many (if not all) new pastors to “not make any changes, we can’t let collections suffer”.

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He has given some great homilies, and inspirations, including the recent Rite of Election talks. He has supported many good causes.

But we need a bishop who will address scandals, who will shepherd his flock, who will stop some “strange” actions by his underlings… and who will clarify and inforce the rubrics, the GIRM etc… whether we agree or not. We need an active leader.

That is why I commented that many newer, youger, more “traditional” (you may cringe at the term) were jumping for joy.

As for the “cleaning house”, I refere to some of the heads of departments that he has. Sisters who deny the title Sr, in favor of Dr., or a very suspect theology in their deaconate program. Or the “canned speeches” during the ongoing investigation on parish closing/mergers. All the speakers say they are addressing the priest shortage… and then go on to address anything but.

Thank God for Fr Jerry Vinke and his great work in procurring seminarians. His efforts alone are bearing fruit.

Or the late, great "Voices’ program. Yes I was part of that until I got that feeling in the stomach you say you have.

I wish I could refuse Faith Magazine, although the History Issue was quite good, and much of the early “stuff” is appearing less and less.

Bishop Carl was is a good man. And certainly he was what JPII wanted us to have, based on the recommendations received. I just happen to think/hope that those who will recommend future assignments to B16 will be taking more time to make more confident suggestions. And I think that perhaps the good Card Rigali, who is now on that commission, may have had something to do with this new assignment… and he is a good friend of Bishop Mengeling.

So if you want to comment on a bishop, you should tell the diocese, not me. But the complaints that were welcomed in years passed may now be rejected… and those that were considered too “orthodox or traditional” may now be addressed.

The Bishop will last as long as 75 or when he needs to be yanked (as Benedict has done a few times). His office should be that of shepherd/teacher, and I always pray that it will be. We need one.
 
Bishop Boyea was the bishop that oversaw our Vicariate. He’s a really great man.

You’ll find him very friendly to the EF Mass. Even before the Motu Proprio, Bishop Boyea took the time to celebrate Mass according to the 1962 Missal at Detroit’s ‘Indult’ parish on several occasions.

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We’ll certainly miss him, and he’s great gain for Lansing.
 
Bp. Boyea celebrated Easter Sunday at St. Josaphat’s (at what was then the indult) in Detroit in 2005 and gave what is possibly the greatest Easter Homily I’ve ever heard. That was only a brief glimpse, but it made a very powerful impression on me (and is one of the homilies I can still remember). Lets offer prayers for his success in Lansing.
 
Bp. Boyea celebrated Easter Sunday at St. Josaphat’s (at what was then the indult) in Detroit in 2005 and gave what is possibly the greatest Easter Homily I’ve ever heard. That was only a brief glimpse, but it made a very powerful impression on me (and is one of the homilies I can still remember). Lets offer prayers for his success in Lansing.
Didn’t he do last Easter as a Pontifical High Mass?

I know he made it a goal to learn the rubrics.
 
Listening to catholic radio yesterday, WDEO Ave Maria, I do know they think highly of him and that he’s a big supporter of catholic radio. That can’t be a bad thing.
 
Hopefully this will spark the renaissance of the Diocese of Lansing, just as Bishop Carlson appears to have sparked it in the neighboring Diocese of Saginaw when he arrived there just three years ago.
 
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