US bishop promotes ‘celebration of Pride’ with prayer card, rainbow crucifix

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Respectfully, I disagree completely. The place to learn Christ’s teachings, and develop a desire to follow Him, is from within the Church, not the Wild West of the Internet.

I know wherefrom I speak. When I reverted 22 years ago, I was in an irregular marriage. If the Church had not welcomed me with open arms i would have never been able to revert, I would have been ostracized because I did not follow her teachings, and would have been put in a situation where I could not follow them. Classic catch-22. You need to follow the teachings to get in, but you need to get in to have the tools to do so (the sacraments, especially reconciliation).

I was lucky that a kind priest welcomed me back with open arms, and after a while, too long for my tastes, I was able to regularize my marriage. It took a while because that required the participation of two people.

Conversion is a life-long process. It takes a lifetime to make a saint. With today’s un-churched youth, we have to start from scratch and form them from reliable sources, not bits and pieces of fake info from the net. That means welcoming them and meeting them where they are and especially loving them and treating them in a dignified manner no matter what sins they bring with them. Only then can the long process of turning one’s life over to Christ begin.
 
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OraLabora said:
When I reverted 22 years ago, I was in an irregular marriage.
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As I read your message, I would assume that when you rejoined the Church you were open to its teachings and wanted to regularize your marriage. The issue with active homosexuals is that they do not accept that they are going against God’s very clear dictates, and worse, expect the Chrch to change its teachings to permit their behavior. It isn’t that the Church is unwelcoming, it’s that they do not want what the Church has to offer and instead want the Church to offer what they want.
 
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I don’t see it as promoting the homosexual act at all or being pro homosexual. I don’t read that in the card or in the Bishop’s statements

What I do read is that he is trying to reach out to that community to tell them that God loves them.

Who knows what hearts and souls in that community these cards will touch. Who knows how many will be encouraged to seek out the Catholic Church and learn its ways, through these cards.
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I support reaching out, but they are called to change their habits and that was not what the card indicated (to me). It emphasizes we are all wonderfully made in his image and reflect his glory.
It candidly does imply an acceptance of homosexual lifestyle.
 
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It emphasizes we are all wonderfully made in his image and reflect his glory.
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We are. It is in the Rule of Saint Benedict. Welcome all who come as if it were Christ Himself you are greeting. Bar none. No exceptions. We are all sinners and fall short of the Glory of God.

But we all have traces of Christ’s glory in us.
 
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Peebo.
My only real objection would be using a crucifix in this way…Christ died for all of us…should we allow the crucifix to be use reflecting a satanic symbol because Christ dies for satanists as well…just leave the crucifix alone and don’t try to politicize it.
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Excellent post Peebo.

Even though I support President Trump, if a bishop gave out “crucifix prayer cards” with a MAGA cap morphed on to it . . .

. . . even for the pretext of “helping” those “conservatives” . . .

. . . I would be almost as disappointed as I am here.

(“Almost” because it is not sinful to be Trump supporter [like it is sinful to promote sodomy that so much of today’s invented “rainbow” paradigm activists do. Irrespective of the Bishop here], but in either case, to hijack the crucifix for either such things, are inappropriate in my opinion. Very disappointed in this political action that uses the Church’s and Christ’s sacrificial imagery.)
 
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KMC . . .
Not sure why your post was flagged.
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Hopefully somebody just accidentally brushed the flag icon.

Otherwise see “flopping” foul in basketball.
 
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We are. It is in the Rule of Saint Benedict. Welcome all who come as if it were Christ Himself you are greeting. Bar none. No exceptions. We are all sinners and fall short of the Glory of God.

But we all have traces of Christ’s glory in us.
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I think an incomplete message is a distorted message.
Adding the ‘and we are all sinners’ changes the message to be loving but neutral.
 
:roll_eyes: I don’t know what kind of grades this Bishop got in his Seminary years … but maybe its time for early retirement.

These days …
... he doesn't seem to know PRIDE from LUST. :confounded: - doh!
 
He has long been quite problematic. He’s a Cupich-clone, and that is not good for the Church.
 
When Pope Benedict was Pope, he said that every month he removed a bishop from his position. I remember in fact a great deal of publicity when Pope Benedict removed a bishop in Australia from his diocese who didn’t want to go. Hopefully, this will be the case again, if not with Pope Francis, but with the Pope who comes after him.
 
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