US Bishops' Conference Largely Disappointed by Debt Ceiling Agreement

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4elise said:
This is something I hope EVERY Catholic will read so we can understand that we, the Church, must come down on the side of the poor and vulnerable. 👍
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Yes, we should make sure they all have cell phones too.:rolleyes:
 
In an Aug. 3 statement, Carr first noted the debate’s positive aspects, recalling how the bishops’ conference joined with “an unprecedented group” of dozens of Christian leaders and communities. Together, they urged legislators to protect the poor and vulnerable both locally and internationally.
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Internationally? Increase our enormous national debt to sustain charitable contributions to foreign nations? Intentionally max out our national credit card, and force our creditors to accept a final partial payment? Since when does Catholic social teaching promote robbing Peter to pay Paul? Nonsense!
 
wynnejj said:
Internationally? Increase our enormous national debt to sustain charitable contributions to foreign nations? Intentionally max out our national credit card, and force our creditors to accept a final partial payment? Since when does Catholic social teaching promote robbing Peter to pay Paul? Nonsense!
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If it’s nonsense, are Apostolic successors then not familiar with Catholic social teaching?
 
“the budget debates were mostly discouraging in their lack of concern for the poor, the U.S. bishops’ conference said”

:clapping: :amen: So I can assume Catholic answers to the budget debate are not those often espoused here on this forum?
 
CMatt25 said:
“the budget debates were mostly discouraging in their lack of concern for the poor, the U.S. bishops’ conference said”

:clapping: :amen: So I can assume Catholic answers to the budget debate are not those often espoused here on this forum?
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No, you can’t assume that. Catholics can have differences of opinion on how their government best uses its resources. It is a matter for prudential judgment.
 
Is prudential judgment anything like proportionate reasons?
 
rlg94086 said:
Proportionate reasoning is used in prudential judgment. Why do you ask?
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Because it seems there are some who take a stand of there only being one definition of proportionate reasons, but on the other hand find ‘new definitions’ of what the bishops teach on another issue.
 
Prodigal_Son1 said:
Because it seems there are some who take a stand of there only being one definition of proportionate reasons, but on the other hand find ‘new definitions’ of what the bishops teach on another issue.
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For instance?
 
CMatt25 said:
If it’s nonsense, are Apostolic successors then not familiar with Catholic social teaching?
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I dreamt that I went to a restaurant with our apostolic successors. When it came time to pay the check, they said “Don’t worry. The next group that comes in and sits at this table will pay for it.”. That’s borrowing from somebody else’s future. That’s robbery.
 
rlg94086 said:
For instance?
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It goes like this “the bishops said they were disappointed with that ceiling bill. Therefore it is okay for Catholic to vote for a candidate who supports unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand as long as he supports increased social spending.”

It is the usual shell game we see played where “progressive” Catholics ignore explicit, direct statements by the magisterium on the impropriety of voting for pro-abortion candidates but grab onto any hint that the magisterium was not happy with the level of social spending as carte blanche to support pro-abortion candidates.
 
4elise said:
This is something I hope EVERY Catholic will read so we can understand that we, the Church, must come down on the side of the poor and vulnerable. 👍
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Interesting that not a single Bishop was quoted in the story and no specifics were given about what cuts they found unacceptable. As we saw with the Bishop Albany’s statement last week there seems to be a lot of misconceptions among the bureaucracy of the US Council of Catholic Bishops about what the debt ceiling deal actually entailed.
 
. I recommend that everybody go to a local lake and cast a baited hook into the water and they will surely catch of fish with enough money in its mouth to cover twice the amount of the cuts (. Just checking to see who went to Mass this morning)🙂
 
wynnejj said:
I dreamt that I went to a restaurant with our apostolic successors. When it came time to pay the check, they said “Don’t worry. The next group that comes in and sits at this table will pay for it.”. That’s borrowing from somebody else’s future. That’s robbery.
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You say in your dream your Apostolic successors were committing robbery at a restaurant. Do you truly believe true Apostolic successors would commit robbery?
 
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