US Bishops' Conference Largely Disappointed by Debt Ceiling Agreement

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Originally Posted by Prodigal Son1
My whining is me sharing ***what I believe ***the Gospels teach.
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My son believes in Santa Claus, that doesn’t make it the truth.
 
ComputerGeek25 said:
Who forced them to open up lending and loosend lending requirements? Who repealed Glass Stegal?
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Loosened lending requirements are somewhat different from a loony lending requirements but you do have a point…which is why I return to my assertion that government regulation does little or nothing to restrain greed - it may actually have the opposite effect. However, blaming the government alone is like hiding behind ‘the devil made me do it’.
 
Unfortunately many on this board I have noticed play the “greed” card. They confuse a sense of decency, fairness, and justice with “greed”.
 
iamrefreshed said:
And continue to do so.😉
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Oh, really? I guess that accounts for the recent protests (in the same city) over decreased subsidies for higher education…they government was too busy throwing money at them to help them get a college education!
 
CMatt25 said:
Unfortunately many on this board I have noticed play the “envy” card. They confuse “envy” with a sense of decency, some fairness, and justice.
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I guess it’s easy when you are decent, fair and judicious with someone else’s money.

Reeks of envy.:mad:
 
seekerz said:
Oh, really? I guess that accounts for the recent protests (in the same city) over decreased subsidies for higher education…they government was too busy throwing money at them to help them get a college education!
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So, when the government stop throwing money people riot.

Thanks for proving my point.😛
 
CMatt25 said:
Prodigal Son, that is exactly what it is.
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Since his response was to me, I can confidently say that you are both wrong and have no clue of what I and others espouse. No one on this board has expressed an ‘everyone for themselves’ attitude.

That said, we aren’t going to respond by whining and crying about you attacking, not just us, but the teachings we believe in. :crying: 😛
 
rlg94086 said:
Since his response was to me, I can confidently say that you are both wrong and have no clue of what I and others espouse. No one on this board has expressed an ‘everyone for themselves’ attitude.

That said, we aren’t going to respond by whining and crying about you attacking, not just us, but the teachings we believe in. :crying: 😛
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I don’t understand how pointing out morally questionable behaviour gets twisted into ‘everyone for themeselves’ 🤷
 
ComputerGeek25 said:
I don’t understand how pointing out morally questionable behaviour gets twisted into ‘everyone for themeselves’ 🤷
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Easy. When they can’t defend their position biblically or through magisterial teaching, they misrepresent their opponents’ position.
 
rlg94086 said:
Easy. When they can’t defend their position biblically or through magisterial teaching, they misrepresent their opponents’ position.
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I think I sufficiently proved my points biblically. All the way back to the 10 Commandments 👍
 
rlg94086 said:
Easy. When they can’t defend their position biblically or through magisterial teaching, they misrepresent their opponents’ position.
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Please show us, under the new and everlasting covenant, where Christ qualifies His commands to help the hungry, naked, homeless, and sick, in a fashion that supports your position. He never taught everyone for themselves, which is what some of the arguments amount too when we see ‘everyone can work, but doesn’t want to’.

You blew off the different articles and writings referencing all sectors of society, and specifically governments being called by the Pope, and other clergy. The teachings, through those writings and quotes, are not that difficult to understand. It doesn’t take a great deal of effort to understand the message, unless you attempt to view it through a biased political view.

Either way, I have tried to stay on topic, which is very hard to do when the spins and attacks come back at me personally and are not specifically addressing the topic of discussion. But we are to be accused of having no position? I think our posts speak for themselves.

The quick little cliches, filled with spins of what’s being said and direct attacks on a person and their beliefs, fails to show a position.
 
iamrefreshed said:
I guess it’s easy when you are decent, fair and judicious with someone else’s money.

Reeks of envy.:mad:
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Not at all. You still don’t get it. I’m not at all envious of the rich. I’m quite thankful for my very modest 6+ yr old compact car and my 30 yr old 1000 sq ft home. I’m just blessed right now to have a roof over my head when so many have not. And besides I don’t need to then worry about whether a camel can fit thru an eye of a needle.
 
Prodigal_Son1 said:
Please show us, under the new and everlasting covenant, where Christ qualifies His commands to help the hungry, naked, homeless, and sick, in a fashion that supports your position. He never taught everyone for themselves, which is what some of the arguments amount too when we see ‘everyone can work, but doesn’t want to’.

You blew off the different articles and writings referencing all sectors of society, and specifically governments being called by the Pope, and other clergy. The teachings, through those writings and quotes, are not that difficult to understand. It doesn’t take a great deal of effort to understand the message, unless you attempt to view it through a biased political view.

Either way, I have tried to stay on topic, which is very hard to do when the spins and attacks come back at me personally and are not specifically addressing the topic of discussion. But we are to be accused of having no position? I think our posts speak for themselves.

The quick little cliches, filled with spins of what’s being said and direct attacks on a person and their beliefs, fails to show a position.
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Perhaps you can show where Christ sad that our obligation to help the hungry, naked and homeless is fulfilled if the government does it
 
rlg94086 said:
Since his response was to me, I can confidently say that you are both wrong and have no clue of what I and others espouse. No one on this board has expressed an ‘everyone for themselves’ attitude.
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The part I was referring to in his post was in regard to his words about the promotion of a conservative political agenda on CAF or at least on this sub forum of it.
 
estesbob said:
Perhaps you can show where Christ sad that our obligation to help the hungry, naked and homeless is fulfilled if the government does it
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Estesbob, you really need to get off that old train. It hurts your credibilty. No one has said that. :rolleyes:
 
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