US Catholic Parish set to "Publicly Bless the Relationship of Same-Sex Couples"

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US Catholic Parish set to "Publicly Bless the Relationship of Same-Sex Couples"
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Openly challenges Church moral teachings

By Hilary White

ST. PAUL - MINNEAPOLIS, November 28, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - St. Francis Cabrini church, of the St. Paul and Minneapolis archdiocese, has announced on their website that they are ready to “bless” homosexual partners.

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Flynn, Nienstedt, cut that turkey loose!

Or Rome will eventually do it for you.

Anyone care now?:confused:
 
We the Catholic Church take in whole Anglican communities because they are against this sort of thing that has been approved by their higher-ups. So now that we have one of our own I think we should give them to the Anglicans.

I honestly think that there will be many many people watching how the Bishop and even Rome handles this to see if we hold true to our faith. Pray that they will see that we are faithful and not PC.
 
KathleenElsie said:
We the Catholic Church take in whole Anglican communities because they are against this sort of thing that has been approved by their higher-ups. So now that we have one of our own I think we should give them to the Anglicans.

I honestly think that there will be many many people watching how the Bishop and even Rome handles this to see if we hold true to our faith. Pray that they will see that we are faithful and not PC.
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😃 Good idea!

Same with those female “priests” out there… I’m sure there are many churches out there that would love to have these people…:rolleyes:
 
Those Bishops of that Archdiocese are now in the hot seat and much of the catholic world on the net is watching. I have been on that parish’s website…disgusting and anti-catholic. :eek:

My opinion is this: Those bishops need to act immediatly. That priest needs to be removed and go on “retreat” for three monthes back to the seminary to be reminded of the catholic faith and in the mean time send a priest to clean up that parish. If the parish does not want to cooperate, put chains on the doors and close it down. If that parish priest does not accept the “tuning in” of the catholic faith at the seminary, fork him over to the Episcopalians, he would fit right in. MMMM…the 'Episcopalian Candy Bar" analogy hahaha…

If the bishops FAIL to act, the Pope certainly needs to get involved. When the Pope is finished with this parish he will be called, “Pope Benedict “The Hammer” 16th”!!!
 
jay29 said:
My opinion is this: Those bishops need to act immediatly. That priest needs to be removed and go on “retreat” for three monthes back to the seminary to be reminded of the catholic faith and in the mean time send a priest to clean up that parish. If the parish does not want to cooperate, put chains on the doors and close it down. If that parish priest does not accept the “tuning in” of the catholic faith at the seminary, fork him over to the Episcopalians, he would fit right in. MMMM…the 'Episcopalian Candy Bar" analogy hahaha…
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Too late for that now. Check the dates on their website. This has been going for for AT LEAST 13 years.

I wouldn’t be opposed to the priest being defrocked, the entire ‘lay leadership’ they go on about be collectivly worked over with ball bats until they rediscover orthodoxy, or stop squirming, whichever happens first, the Church UNconsecrated and sold to the highest bidding group of Unitarians.

Or maybe I’m overreacting. Time will tell. But 13 years is WAY too long for this #*$# to have gone on.

Sorry, a little peeved about all this.
 
I’m not surprised by this. There’ll be those claiming “we have apostolic succession” when they in fact approve of the same things that the Catholic Church abhors! DO NOT FOLLOW THEM! AVOID THEM!

Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, to mark them who make dissensions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which you have learned, and avoid them.

Galations 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are fornication, uncleanness, immodesty, luxury, 20 Idolatry, witchcrafts, enmities, contentions, emulations, wraths, quarrels, dissensions, sects,
21 Envies, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like. Of the which I foretell you, as I have foretold to you, that they who do such things shall not obtain the kingdom of God.

Mark 9:44 And if thy foot scandalize thee, cut it off. It is better for thee to enter lame into life everlasting, than having two feet, to be cast into the hell of unquenchable fire:
 
Meunke said:
Here is the “Statement of Reconciliation”

cabrinimn.org/content.cfm?id=2012

It shows that it was adopted in 1994. Amazing that this is just NOW getting any press.
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Meunke:
Too late for that now. Check the dates on their website. This has been going for for AT LEAST 13 years.

I wouldn’t be opposed to the priest being defrocked, the entire ‘lay leadership’ they go on about be collectivly worked over with ball bats until they rediscover orthodoxy, or stop squirming, whichever happens first, the Church UNconsecrated and sold to the highest bidding group of Unitarians.

Or maybe I’m overreacting. Time will tell. But 13 years is WAY too long for this #*$# to have gone on.

Sorry, a little peeved about all this.
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I am for the most part in agreement with both of you, something major needs to be done here. And I wouldn’t be suprised the archbishops are in consultation with Cardinal Claudio Hummes of the Congregation for the Clergy, and maybe even Cardinal William Levada of the CDF as we speak. In order to go about dealing with this situation in the most correct and proper manner possible.

This is a drastic situation to say the least, and I don’t think we even know half of what happened or is happening. In my view I believe the Holy Father should send an apostolic visitiation, or curial respresentative with a papal mandate, to the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis, in order to get to the bottom of what has been or is happening there and to clean it up. No matter how drastic the measures need to be.

Anyhow there is great deal of anecdotal evidence to suggest that certain individuals in the St. Paul chancery offices have been an accessory to these wayward activites, who have quietly swept them under the rug so to speak.

This link exposes a great deal of what has happened, but is only the tip the iceberg I fear: speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=3942
 
before everybody gets in an uproar we should make sure the secular press got the story right!!! I have seen before where they write a story about something or someone else and just to get big attention they some how get the Catholic Church in the story.If the story is true, we need to ask God for strength to perservere!!!:knight1: :irish2:
 
celticcrusader said:
before everybody gets in an uproar we should make sure the secular press got the story right!!! I have seen before where they write a story about something or someone else and just to get big attention they some how get the Catholic Church in the story.If the story is true, we need to ask God for strength to perservere!!!:knight1: :irish2:
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Good Idea, so I searched their web page myself. At this location:

cabrinimn.org/content.cfm?id=2012

It says the following:
Publicly bless the relationships of a same sex couple after the couple completes a process of discernment similar to that completed by heterosexual couples before marriage; *
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  • Not being implemented at this time.
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So the media sort of got it right. They think it is a good idea to bless gay couples, but they are not doing it at this point in time. It appears that they have been stating this since 1994.

You know, I’m not even Catholic and this offends me. It would be much more respectful of them to just state that they are not a Catholic Church and do what they please.

Nohome
 
Oy, I used to live in that diocese (my husband and I went through RCIA at and were confirmed at the Basilica of St. Mary). Thank God my husband and I never attended that particular Catholic parish.

I hope Bishop Flynn takes decisive action, and quickly.
 
Their Statement of Reconciliation was linked to earlier, but I think it should be posted for everyone here to see:

**St. Frances Cabrini Parish

STATEMENT OF RECONCILIATION**

We, the members of St. Frances Cabrini Parish, claim as our own the words of the Apostle Paul. “There is no longer Jew nor Greek, there is no longer slave nor free, there is no longer male and female: for all of you are one in Christ Jesus.” (Galatians 3:28)

As members of one body we are grieved by the separation of many of those Catholics who identify themselves as gay, lesbian, transgender or bisexual from the Catholic Church. We are aware of the centuries of oppression that these brothers and sisters have suffered at the hands of civil and religious authorities. We are aware of recent attempts by our bishops to label our brothers and sisters as “objectively disordered,” and to fight against their being granted their full civil rights.

We are also aware that these brothers and sisters have walked with us in our faith throughout the centuries. They have served the Church in every capacity, from the most humble to the most exalted. Despite the hostility they have encountered, they have by their actions proven to be true lovers of Jesus. In being honest about their sexual identity, they have embraced a difficult cross.

With this history in mind we commit ourselves and our community to:
  • Reach out to the gay/lesbian community, encouraging them to join our parish;
  • Regularly publish our welcome in the gay press;
  • Promise to educate ourselves about gay/lesbian issues and work to overcome stereotypes;
  • Include a gay/lesbian perspective in catechesis at all levels, including elementary school age;
  • Support lesbians and gay men in ways that promote stable, healthy relationships;
  • Publicly bless the relationships of a same sex couple after the couple completes a process of discernment similar to that completed by heterosexual couples before marriage; *
  • Stand willing to accept qualified, openly gay or lesbian priests or lay ministers;
  • Zealously work for and guard the civil rights of lesbians and gay men, knowing that all of our civil rights are compromised when theirs are;
  • Pray for greater understanding and acceptance of gay, and lesbian people in official Church teaching;
  • Encourage other parishes to become publicly reconciled with the gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual community.
  • Not being implemented at this time.
Approved August 1994
 
celticcrusader said:
before everybody gets in an uproar we should make sure the secular press got the story right!!! I have seen before where they write a story about something or someone else and just to get big attention they some how get the Catholic Church in the story.If the story is true, we need to ask God for strength to perservere!!!:knight1: :irish2:
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You can rest assured the story is quite right, and it wasn’t a typical liberal secular media source that broke the story, but lifesite.net , which has a particularly strong track record for support of orthodox Catholic causes and pro-life in general.
 
SemperFidelis said:
Their Statement of Reconciliation was linked to earlier, but I think it should be posted for everyone here to see:

**St. Frances Cabrini Parish

STATEMENT OF RECONCILIATION**

We, the members of St. Frances Cabrini Parish, claim as our own the words of the Apostle Paul. “There is no longer Jew nor Greek, there is no longer slave nor free, there is no longer male and female: for all of you are one in Christ Jesus.” (Galatians 3:28)

As members of one body we are grieved by the separation of many of those Catholics who identify themselves as gay, lesbian, transgender or bisexual from the Catholic Church. We are aware of the centuries of oppression that these brothers and sisters have suffered at the hands of civil and religious authorities. We are aware of recent attempts by our bishops to label our brothers and sisters as “objectively disordered,” and to fight against their being granted their full civil rights.

We are also aware that these brothers and sisters have walked with us in our faith throughout the centuries. They have served the Church in every capacity, from the most humble to the most exalted. Despite the hostility they have encountered, they have by their actions proven to be true lovers of Jesus. In being honest about their sexual identity, they have embraced a difficult cross.

With this history in mind we commit ourselves and our community to:
  • Reach out to the gay/lesbian community, encouraging them to join our parish;
  • Regularly publish our welcome in the gay press;
  • Promise to educate ourselves about gay/lesbian issues and work to overcome stereotypes;
  • Include a gay/lesbian perspective in catechesis at all levels, including elementary school age;
  • Support lesbians and gay men in ways that promote stable, healthy relationships;
  • Publicly bless the relationships of a same sex couple after the couple completes a process of discernment similar to that completed by heterosexual couples before marriage; *
  • Stand willing to accept qualified, openly gay or lesbian priests or lay ministers;
  • Zealously work for and guard the civil rights of lesbians and gay men, knowing that all of our civil rights are compromised when theirs are;
  • Pray for greater understanding and acceptance of gay, and lesbian people in official Church teaching;
  • Encourage other parishes to become publicly reconciled with the gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual community.
  • Not being implemented at this time.
Approved August 1994
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Like your photo of Pope Pius XII. 👍
 
SemperFidelis said:
Thank you very much. I am guessing he is one of your favorite Popes too!
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I know Pius XII was a wonderful Pope, but shouldn’t we be getting back to topic? Unless of course you want this thread closed, in which case I wouldn’t be exactly thrilled…:rolleyes:
 
Catholic29 said:
You can rest assured the story is quite right, and it wasn’t a typical liberal secular media source that broke the story, but lifesite.net , which has a particularly strong track record for support of orthodox Catholic causes and pro-life in general.
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That link has lots of stories - I couldn’t find the one about the parish blessing homosexual couples.

Can you re-link?

Thanks
 
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