US Catholics growing more critical of pope's handling of abuse scandal

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By Catholic News Service
Monday, 12 April 2010
A new Pew survey shows that while Catholics are still more positive than Americans in general about Pope Benedict XVI’s handling of the abuse scandal, they have grown more critical of how he has addressed the issue.

In a telephone survey of 1,001 adults conducted April 1-5, more than one in 10 Americans, or 12 percent, said the pope has done an excellent or good job in handling the abuse scandal and 71 percent said he had done only a fair or poor job.

Out of all the Catholics in the survey group, 32 percent said the pope has done an excellent or good job, but 59 percent rated his handling of the scandal as fair or poor. Of Catholics who said they attend Mass weekly, 44 percent gave the pope a rating of excellent or good, while 49 percent said he was doing a fair or poor job.

In April 2008, when the pope was visiting the United States, a Pew survey showed that 39 percent of Americans in general said the pope was doing an excellent or good job of handling the abuse scandal, and 48 percent gave him a rating of fair or poor. Among Catholics, 49 percent said his handling of it was excellent or good, 40 percent called it fair or poor.

The survey results were released April 7 by the Washington-based Pew Research Center for the People & the Press and the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life. The margin of error was plus or minus 4 percentage points.

Asked if they had heard about Pope Benedict, most Americans, or 74 percent, said they had heard either a lot about him (29 percent) or a little (45 percent). Their awareness of the pope was almost as high as when he was visiting the U.S., when 84 percent of Americans had heard something about him, the survey said.

In recent months clergy sex abuse scandals in Europe have made headlines worldwide. A series of reports by The New York Times and other media in late March and early April criticized the pope for alleged “inaction” on sex abuse cases.

In response Vatican authorities have emphasized that it was the pope who, as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, pushed for harsher measures against abusers and made it easier for the church to defrock them.

In a lengthy commentary April 9, Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi, the Vatican spokesman, strongly defended Pope Benedict as a credible leader on the issue of priestly sex abuse, saying the pope’s respect for truth and transparency stand against the “criticism and unfounded insinuations” of recent weeks.

The priest said the recent disclosures of past cases of abuse of minors by priests had demonstrated that the wounds in the church run deep, and require greater pastoral attention.

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I’m not sure why this particular news outlet feels the need to lump “fair” and “poor” into the same statistical category. They are not the same answer. It presents a skewed view of the results.
 
It’s just more of the same: Satan attacking Holy Mother Church, trying to divide us through lies and half-truths.

Ask yourself who stands to gain from ‘polls’ like this.

Whose side are you on? Every Catholic will have to answer that in his own heart.
 
Considering when the two polls were taken, it’s hard to take the results that seriously. The first poll was taken at the time of Benedict’s U.S. visit. The second poll was taken a week ago when the media outlets are saturated with misinformation about this issue.

Neither moment strikes me as the best time to get a fair picture (or is that a “poor” picture since the two are apparently the same thing).
 
Who cares about these polls. the Church is not the world and the Church does not act like the world wants her to. these are two different entities. one is from Heaven and the other is from below.

the world cannot understand the Church. especially now and days that the world is so demonic and the Church is standing in their way.
i dont care about these polls and i dont care about what the world is saying about the Church. and no Catholic should give ears to what the world is saying about the Church.

this is what we need to hear and stand by it.
youtube.com/watch?v=dv82aOqeVvw&feature=related

this is horrifying to hear this woman saying she speaks for the Catholic Church. even worse she is in my home town.
youtube.com/watch?v=dv82aOqeVvw&feature=related
 
Who cares about these polls. the Church is not the world and the Church does not act like the world wants her to. these are two different entities. one is from Heaven and the other is from below.

the world cannot understand the Church. especially now and days that the world is so demonic and the Church is standing in their way.
i dont care about these polls and i dont care about what the world is saying about the Church. and no Catholic should give ears to what the world is saying about the Church.

this is what we need to hear and stand by it.
youtube.com/watch?v=dv82aOqeVvw&feature=related

this is horrifying to hear this woman saying she speaks for the Catholic Church. even worse she is in my home town.
youtube.com/watch?v=dv82aOqeVvw&feature=related
I agree with you entirely. It is as if some people want to see the Pope appear on Oprah, or in that dark room across the table from Charlie Rose, or better yet, going face to face with Larry King. I can just see it now: Larry,“So…Pope…sex scandal…in on it…or out?”, Pope: “No, no…”, then Larry interupts:“Come on…ya had to know…come on…right?”, Pope: “Well, no…”, Larry interupts: " Hold that thought Pope while we break for commercial. By the way folks tune in tomorrow night when my guest will be Marylin Manson, and the topic…body piercing."

The Pope must remain distant from the whims and demands of pop culture and its mass- media demigods. This reticence is born of great wisdom. The ancient and the modern are in conflict here as much as anything now. I say keep the mystique alive by continuing to straddle two worlds: the physical and the metaphysical. Pope Benedict and the Church will prevail.
 
I agree with you entirely. It is as if some people want to see the Pope appear on Oprah, or in that dark room across the table from Charlie Rose, or better yet, going face to face with Larry King. I can just see it now: Larry,“So…Pope…sex scandal…in on it…or out?”, Pope: “No, no…”, then Larry interupts:“Come on…ya had to know…come on…right?”, Pope: “Well, no…”, Larry interupts: " Hold that thought Pope while we break for commercial. By the way folks tune in tomorrow night when my guest will be Marylin Manson, and the topic…body piercing."
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The Pope must remain distant from the whims and demands of pop culture and its mass- media demigods. This reticence is born of great wisdom. The ancient and the modern are in conflict here as much as anything now. I say keep the mystique alive by continuing to straddle two worlds: the physical and the metaphysical. Pope Benedict and the Church will prevail.**
:amen::amen:

the Church does not answer to the world. like GK Chesterton says: “the Catholic Church can rebuke the world but the world cannot rebuke the Church.”
 
“Surveys show Catholics in the USA increasingly tricked by anti-Catholic bigots in the media and liberal opportunists in their own Church. Film at 11.”
 
If this Poll is true then those skeptical US Catholics should do more research into these claims made by the liberal newspapers, instead of believing everything thats written.

Example:

Media said Pope was involved in a cover up of the Murphy Priest in Wisconsin = that was then discovered to be FALSE.
 
its a result of media
media is able to rise the anger and to turn the anger of the masses to any direction.

in my small world , i think if the devol plans to do some thing , he paves the road first
so before to attack the church and the God’s servants , the masses of people should be convinced how bad is the church and its servants.
 
the effect of media is very fluential
because people usually do not read the newspapers and books

and these kinds of news are easy to believe

i think in the future the church is facing persecution
 
Media said Pope was involved in a cover up of the Murphy Priest in Wisconsin = that was then discovered to be FALSE.
The media will never state that though. Much like if they find nukes in Iraq tomorrow, the media will never pardon Bush or they will try to paint Obama as the one who found them.
 
The media will never state that though. Much like if they find nukes in Iraq tomorrow, the media will never pardon Bush or they will try to paint Obama as the one who found them.
The search for WMD in Iraq was given up years ago.

Ratzinger, through Bertone, exhibited foot-dragging in the Murphy-Milwaukee affair, as with the Oakland-Kiesle affair. It wasn’t a deliberate cover-up. but Ratzinger might have avoided a great deal of adverse publicity if he had responded sooner. These days, a similar claim would receive prompt action.
 
It would be one thing if the Church said, “We need not defend ourselves against the claims of the world” (-and by saying this include “lay Catholics” as part of ‘the world’ and not ‘the Church’) but to say that AND say, among other things, “Stop picking on us! You’re not getting the stories right! You hate us!” won’t do.

The Vatican is well aware of what the world is saying. What’s more, it wants the world to say something else. It just doesn’t think it should meet the world halfway. As Dr, Phil might say, “How’s that workin’ out for ya’?”

When the question is serious crimes and the Church acknowledges much sin on the part of some priests and bishops, it won’t do to say ‘take our word that everything is okay now’ because the Church said that before when it wasn’t true.
 
The media will never state that though. Much like if they find nukes in Iraq tomorrow, the media will never pardon Bush or they will try to paint Obama as the one who found them.
They make no bones about their partisanship, and then defy us to talk about the dinosaur in the living room.
 
It would be one thing if the Church said, “We need not defend ourselves against the claims of the world” (-and by saying this include “lay Catholics” as part of ‘the world’ and not ‘the Church’) but to say that AND say, among other things, “Stop picking on us! You’re not getting the stories right! You hate us!” won’t do.

The Vatican is well aware of what the world is saying. What’s more, it wants the world to say something else. It just doesn’t think it should meet the world halfway. As Dr, Phil might say, “How’s that workin’ out for ya’?”

When the question is serious crimes and the Church acknowledges much sin on the part of some priests and bishops, it won’t do to say ‘take our word that everything is okay now’ because the Church said that before when it wasn’t true.
You have to admit Ratzinger did a lot to flush out abuse when he headed the CDF.
 
They make no bones about their partisanship, and then defy us to talk about the dinosaur in the living room.
re the media and the Iraq war and the light that it may show on the media and the priest-predator scandal:

The Iraq was was unnecessary, and supported by lies and incompetence. It cost us one TRILLION dollars. Bush simultaneously cut taxes and started a war, guaranteeing our descent into deep debt. (When you start a war you’re supposed to* raise* taxes to pay for the war.) The war cost thousands of US lives, maimed tens of thousands of US soldiers, and maimed and killed countless Iraqis.

SO the media won’t let Bush forget it. That “dinosaur”, like the T. rex at the end of Jurassic Park, is still eating us up.

The media, mindful of the ‘dinosaur’ of the Iraq war, now sees the *elephant *in the living room, --the priest abuse scandal, and is calling the church’s attention to it.

Fortunately, the Church, being the Bride of Christ, is very aware of it, even if Rome wasn’t --and, to a considerable degree-still isn’t.

It will be interesting to see what becomes of the Legion of Christ.

This will be the litmus test.
 
There would be nothing to report if the Church had of and would be up front about what is going on/👍
 
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