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grotto
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Julian has been planted in a British prison and he is going to receive long needed dental and medical care…hmmmmm. This reminds me of a book later made into a movie:
“The Marathon Man”.
“The Marathon Man”.
US charges Assange with conspiracy to commit computer hacking
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dvdjs
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Probably, although the authenticity of the stolen materials has neither been confirmed or denied, AFAIK.
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Victoria33
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I’m not sure if it was posted here, Sweden want him extradited and many members of the UK parliament agree.
Also, an associate arrested in Ecuador. I believe the associate is Swedish.
Check the news for more detail.
Also, an associate arrested in Ecuador. I believe the associate is Swedish.
Check the news for more detail.
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Why the Julian Assange indictment is a victory for press freedom
Julian Assange has a knack for making enemies. Conservatives denounced him in 2010 after he put online a horde of classified information provided by Chelsea Manning, a U.S. Army intelligence analyst who went to prison for the leaks.…
www.chicagotribune.com
Adding on to this story instead of posting separately. According to this, Assange so far has not been charged with anything per leaking classified information.
It sounds like he helped someone hack an account per the password. So, I don’t want to simplify it but if someone hacked your bank account for example, took out large sums of money, you would probably think, that just password hacking should be a crime. At this point, it carries a sentence of only 5 years… so, in a way, not that serious and not about “freedom of the press”.
As always, check for details.
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Ridgerunner
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That surprises me, that it would be so little.
So, if the hacking itself isn’t significantly punished, and if disclosure is protected by the First Amendment, there isn’t much to it at all unless, as with Manning, it involved a breach of security one was sworn to protect. Am I understanding that correctly?
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ThinkingSapien
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A first time offender for some parts of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act in the USA is up to five years. For someone that is not a first time offender or someone that violates other areas of the CFAA thr penalty can be up to 10.
Note that one session could result in multiple criminal charges. Simply accessing someone’s account would be a charge, and transfering money from their account could be a different charge.
CFAA: 18 U.S. Code § 1030 - Fraud and related activity in connection with computers | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute
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Again, it’s been said, I have no idea if the charges (2) in Sweden are credible, but if so… that would be the more serious matter. That was posted on this page or see what he might be extradited to Sweden is in the news.
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grotto
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As I recall, Assange was charged with sexual assault of some degree but the complainants lost interest in the pursuit - and the prosecutor’s let it go. If it stayed floating around and can land again, who knows?
Bradley Manning, the Army Pvt who was a security analyst, decided to reveal the Top Secret intell he had but needed an assist. He was tried and found guilty - espionage.
He was serving his forever sentence but Obama decided to “pardon” him. He then became a “'she” and is now called “Chelsea”. “She” is into some recent trouble if not mistaken.
The Pentagon’s data that was compromised is said to have greatly endangered lives and missions, plus much info.
Bradley Manning, the Army Pvt who was a security analyst, decided to reveal the Top Secret intell he had but needed an assist. He was tried and found guilty - espionage.
He was serving his forever sentence but Obama decided to “pardon” him. He then became a “'she” and is now called “Chelsea”. “She” is into some recent trouble if not mistaken.
The Pentagon’s data that was compromised is said to have greatly endangered lives and missions, plus much info.
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niceatheist
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My understanding is the DoJ is saying they’re limiting any prosecution to hacking. Apparently this general view dates back to the Obama Administration, which was concerned that prosecuting Manning or Assange for publishing classified materials might end up being a First Amendment fight (and the US has already been down this road with the Washington Post’s publishing of the Pentagon Papers). Now that’s not to say Federal prosecutors, once they have Assange in custody, might not come up with more charges, but in part, I suspect, this is to facilitate as an expedient extradition as possible. if the possibility that Assange could face more severe charges could be legitimately be raised by his British legal defense team, it could compromise the extradition, or delay it greatly.
Of course, there’s also the possibility that Sweden may reopen the rape investigation, so there could be a bit of a battle between Sweden and the US, though from what I can tell thus far, Sweden doesn’t really seem all that interested in dealing with Assange anymore, and even if they did, they might get him shipped to Sweden, try him there, and then hand him over to the US.
Of course, there’s also the possibility that Sweden may reopen the rape investigation, so there could be a bit of a battle between Sweden and the US, though from what I can tell thus far, Sweden doesn’t really seem all that interested in dealing with Assange anymore, and even if they did, they might get him shipped to Sweden, try him there, and then hand him over to the US.
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niceatheist
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Ecuador has been wanting to evict Assange since at least last summer. It’s been a simmering dispute.
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