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He_Man
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Whelp, there goes most Americans. He could say he is going to eliminate waste in all four branches of government, all three chambers of congress, and cut 4 of the 12 members from the Supreme Court, and most Americans would believe him. We are a country of very ignorant, uneducated people.
He meant to type “out of curiosity, I dreamed about a Fox News poll and…”
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He_Man
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He meant to time “out of curiosity, I dreamed about a Fox News poll and…”
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wavejim
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I watched the debate, off and on, broadcast by c-span. The exit from the debate was very interesting to me. Mr. Romney and his family enjoyed being there and stayed on the stage well after the Obama’s left. President Obama makes a quick exit as Mitt calmly goes to his podium and collects his debate materials. A little later a man comes out and collects the President’s debate materials.
The President was acting childish and sulked off the stage too quickly. Whats the take on that?
The President was acting childish and sulked off the stage too quickly. Whats the take on that?
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bellasbane
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That’s because we had already invested $100 Billion (in today’s dollars) in the Apollo program learning how to make rockets that didn’t crash, burn, or blow up. Surely you’ve seen the videos even if you’re too young to remember how far behind the Soviets we were during most of the space race.The thing is, the Space Shuttle didn’t crash and burn every flight. No “green” company that received money was successful
Figuring how to launch a person into orbit was neither cheap nor easy.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spaceflight-related_accidents_and_incidents
And despite all that money and investment, we still lost two Space Shuttles: Challenger & Colombia. Was it worth it? What did we get for the hundreds of billions of dollars we paid for the knowledge of manned spaceflight?
I would argue that while the space program inspired a generation of scientists and created new technologies, the knowledge of how to produce truly clean energy is worth more to our future as a people and for the planet. Unfortunately, we haven’t even come close to the same level of investment, because the giants of the carbon based fuel industry do not want to loose their markets.
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jwinch2
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Very good advice, hopefully Romney will heed it as well. I am not convinced that Romney’s performance was as amazing as everyone is suggesting and that Obama’s was as bad. Personally while watching the debate, I thought Romney got the best of most exchanges, looked presidential, and more than held his own. But, I didn’t feel like it was some sort of beatdown on an epic proportion or anything along those lines either.
In fact, I thought he missed some opportunities to really make some good points on things like the 10th Amendment, hiring of teachers, transparency, etc. but he didn’t follow through on them in the way that he should have.
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Dawnia
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Ain’t that the truth! Each election just reinforces the point that the founders who set up the electoral college were very smart men.
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He_Man
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“I don’t think you’ve killed anyone, but it is pretty likely.”
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jwinch2
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http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=I.4526333643785255&pid=1.7&w=225&h=131&c=7&rs=1
A “Columbo” blast? Epic!there ye go Columbo, mystery solved
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bellasbane
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Is that the new Republican idea? I thought I was getting an answer to my question of what new ideas Romney was bringing to the table. Too bad is wasn’t so.
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GaryTaylor
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The question is how much did the last night effect Obama supporters? I would imagine you’ll see Obama on one of his betters days next time also. Romney has some questions to answer also though. Think we have a race now though, and who will appear to want to be President more next time?
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_Abyssinia
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He_Man
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Yeah, I know what he meant, but man did that sound bad.
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jwinch2
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I think Obama had been putting more of his efforts into being on the stump and fund raising then he had debate prep. He was a bit overconfident and thought his charisma would win the day. And, in previous debate formats where things were more structured, he might have. He has gotten a bit used to not being challenged and being able to control the narrative over the past four years so when someone was able to go toe to toe with him, he was thrown off. In this instance, the media who seem to support him overwhelmingly may have done him a disservice. In not asking him tough questions or calling him out on things, he has not been forced to refine his answers in such a way that they are harder to poke holes in.
Agreed, totally. Obama got a wake-up call last night and he is probably getting ready for his Rocky Balboa style montage right now where he comes back leaner and meaner for the next debate. In addition, Romney’s performance last night has moved the bar higher for himself. If he does not look amazing in his next performance, (which I think is on foreign affairs?), people will conclude that he had one good night but isn’t ready for the big leagues.
Romney needs to work even harder for the next debate and, after letting this debate be the narrative for a few days and through the weekend, needs to come out with a major foreign policy speech next week sometime, and do so in a way that he does not reveal all of his cards and give the President too much to work with, but also in a way that might lead the President where he wants him to go the next time around.
In short, he has a tough road coming up and needs to walk a fine line to make it through.
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maryjk
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Did you really just accuse Gov. Romney of being a drug user? And when questioned if that is what you really meant, you doubled down.
Time to retract your statement or provide proof.
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austenbosten
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That’s Obama’s idea and the idea of the Left for the last 150 years. And you didn’t ask Romney’s ideas you asked what “trickle-down government was” don’t blame me you asked the wrong question.Is that the new Republican idea? I thought I was getting an answer to my question of what new ideas Romney was bringing to the table. Too bad is wasn’t so.
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Slaney
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Ha ! off topic, loved Peter Falk & he sorted everything out in an hour approx:, Columbo & a cup of tea, can’t be beaten, still re-run here
Never met his wife, nor did he it seems, well not too often.
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stevegravy
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Trickle down government.
Although for Obama’s economic policy I’d prefer trickle down poverty.
meltzerboy
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Chris Matthews was furious with Obama’s not chastising Romney for his policies, including his comment about the 47%. Ed Schultz was likewise very disappointed with Obama’s performance and his not making the case for the Democrats. Even Al Sharpton admitted that Romney was on his game; however, he felt that the videotapes will show that Romney was lying on several points. Rachel Maddow wanted to have a drink to drown her sorrows.The same one Meltzerboy and I watched saying that the panelists: Maddow, “I’ll have another drink” Matthews, “not-so” Sharpton, That bald dude with the goatee (token Republican I’m guessing), O’Donnell, Schultz and Chris “I wanna be like Maddow” Hayes conceded Romney won the debate, to much of their disappointment
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SuperLuigi
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I used to live across the strait form you in Scotland. Nice place. I’ll try and explain this a little more so you can see where I am coming from.
A lot of the 47% are people who are on unemployment provided by the government, and it’s maybe a few hundred dollars, maybe up to around 1000 a month.
We are talking about people who may have been making well over 100,000 Euros a year and are now working part-time at 8 Euros/hour.
It’s probably fun for a couple weeks. You can take a vacation, golf do whatever. But sooner or later the bills start to pile up.
Property taxes in the USA are also high due to our largely unionized education system and an incessant need to build athletic facilities for football teams. People on unemployment are going to have a difficult time making ends meet.
It’s also one reason why Asian nations are soaring past us in fields like math and science.
40 years ago, the USA was the biggest lender on the planet. Today we are the biggest borrower.
America is not as economically liberal as say Europe, Japan or Canada formerly was. We can’t afford to be because no one else is covering our defense, for one, and secondly, it’s just a different culture.
The media, on the other hand, is very liberal but is not representative of the nation as a whole. Most of their publications would probably be out of business if dentist office waiting rooms and libraries didn’t subscribe to their daily or weekly readings.
The other big difference between Europe and America is that European nations aren’t afraid to drill for oil or use nuclear power. Here in America, the left is at war with fossil fuels and nuclear in favor of wind and solar. This adversely affects union coal miners, who have been a key portion of the democrat base for decades, but now the left is turning on them to coddle trust-fund environmentalists.
The media in the UK isn’t afraid to take a critical stance against the left, except when it comes to Islam.
Here in America, the media is in the tank for Obama. Have been for over 4 years. Some of that has to do with white guilt. They think that by supporting Obama, the crimes of their ancestors (even though only 2% of Americans today had ancestors who owned slaves, some of them were even African or Native American) can be absolved.
If they were even balanced in the slightest, this election would be over instantly.
The other biggie we have that other nations do not is a housing entitlement program called Dodd-Frank.
This bill forced banks to loan out money to minorities, single women and poor people all in the name of not being discriminatory.
Turns out these groups are disproportionately unable to pay back loans which is the real reason why they were originally unable to get home ownership.
When the loans weren’t paid back, houses were foreclosed and guess who got the blame? The banks, of course.
The same politicians who told the banks they had to do this and if they went under the taxpayers would bail them out blamed the banks, not their bill.
If Obama is re-elected, within a year if not months republicans and independents will be calling for his impeachment.
The economy will contract in the biggest way since the Great Depression, unemployment will soar, energy costs will multiply, China, Japan and private bond holders will stop lending money, there will be massive inflation, interest rates will go from 2-3% to 20% to counter it and there will be a run on the dollar.
Big cities will also probably be under martial law as a result from the ensuing panic.
Americans will be sitting glued to their TV sets and radios getting a crash course in real world economics wondering how this could have happened only to learn it is too late and that Barack Hussein Obama and the democrat party will have succeeded in cutting America down to size to show all those “greedy”, successful people what it’s like.
As a result, the defense around the free world will collapse overnight and Russia, China and Iran the Muslim Brotherhood will be the new powers.
As for the liberals on here and elsewhere?
They’ll still blame republicans.
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