US Presidential Election Debate #1

  • Thread starter Thread starter Robert_Bay
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
The board is to regulate the insurance and medical corporations to be sure they’re not gouging the people on premiums and costs.

They don’t decide who gets care and what type of care. That’s still in the hands of the doctors.

I live in Massachusetts on Romney Care, BTW.

It’s been great.

Jim
Now, so what this board does is basically identifies best practices and says, let’s use the purchasing power of Medicare and Medicaid to help to institutionalize all these good things that we do.
 
How am I slandering someone’s character, or bearing false witness? IT IS MY OPINION! As you will note in the news release, I posted, numerous ‘young’ students take these drugs to help increase their recall, and cognitive function so as to get great marks in their exams. It is not a ‘slanderous’ action to take such a drug.
But in essence what you are saying by stating this and then defending it so adamantly is that for anyone to be as articulate, or to have had such fluidic speech, or instant recollection of facts and figures, he would have to be chemically doped? Is that you stance? So there are, according to you, no people in the world who have can just be that way naturally? Just trying to understand your position. May I ask, do you have some sort of experience in this area or something? Because it sure sounds like it to me! But this is just MY OPINION as you state so eloquently. Why don’t you learn a little about the man and his religion. LDS members can’t even attend their Temple if they drink Coffee let alone other drugs like you claim. Even having a Coke / Pepsi or other such caffeinated drinks is frowned upon. Now I’m not going to even come close to saying he’s a saint but to make such an outlandish claim without backing it up is reprehensible. And in MY OPINION only gives evidence about the author of such tales. Now if you were to admit that the likely hood of him just being prepared and ready is more likely then we can let it go. Occam’s razor, “It is a principle stating that among competing hypotheses, the one which makes the fewest assumptions should be selected.” Fewest assumptions for me is “he was prepared” end of story.

Peace
 
The man’s 67 yrs old, and over the past few months has an extremely poor track record for being inarticulate and has also made dreadful faux pas on several issues as well as not being too fluent. My observation was based upon Romney’s performance, to date.
If you hadn’t put Romney’s name in the final sentence, I’d have assumed you were talking about Joe Biden. Only it couldn’t be Biden. He’s 69 years old.
 
The board is to regulate the insurance and medical corporations to be sure they’re not gouging the people on premiums and costs.

They don’t decide who gets care and what type of care. That’s still in the hands of the doctors.

I live in Massachusetts on Romney Care, BTW.

It’s been great.

Jim
Sell that soap to the saps who believe it. What they are doing is setting the standards of who gets treatment and who doesn’t.
 
If you hadn’t put Romney’s name in the final sentence, I’d have assumed you were talking about Joe Biden. Only it couldn’t be Biden. He’s 69 years old.
:rotfl:

The thought of that vulgar vile man being only a heartbeat away from president is enough reason to vote for Romney.
 
The majority will.

Only those voting with absentee ballots, will vote early, but they don’t make the majority who will vote and ultimately decide the election.

As it is, for some reason, Military personnel are not requesting absentee ballots and they predict a low vote from the military.

Jim
That might be true in some places, but it’s certainly not here. There have been a steady stream of people voting since it in-person voting opened. Last election around 1/2 of all votes were cast early & it’s expected to be greater this year.

Maybe the military people expect to be home to vote this year? 🤷
 
Obama is no idiot, and use of uncharitable names is against the rules of this forum, even when it’s about a politician.

Just thought you might like to know. :rolleyes:

Jim
Al Gore is pathetic.

I vote for Bush again over Gore, even though Bush was nothing more than a useful idiot for Cheney and company.

Jim
You called Al Gore pathetic, and said Bush was a useful idiot.

What are you mad about again?
 
What Reagan inherited wasn’t near what Obama inherited…

Jim
How so? I was pretty young at the time, but I remember two recessions, in 1980 and 82. There was double digit inflation, unemployment, and a prime rate of 20%.

We STILL haven’t gotten our GDP growth rate (10+) back to 1979 levels. Reagan dealt with TWO recessions.

What’s more, I don’t ever remember him blaiming his predecessor for not getting anything done, or complaining he didin’t have enought time to fix it.
 
But in essence what you are saying by stating this and then defending it so adamantly is that for anyone to be as articulate, or to have had such fluidic speech, or instant recollection of facts and figures, he would have to be chemically doped? Is that you stance? So there are, according to you, no people in the world who have can just be that way naturally? Just trying to understand your position. May I ask, do you have some sort of experience in this area or something? Because it sure sounds like it to me! But this is just MY OPINION as you state so eloquently. Why don’t you learn a little about the man and his religion. LDS members can’t even attend their Temple if they drink Coffee let alone other drugs like you claim. Even having a Coke / Pepsi or other such caffeinated drinks is frowned upon. Now I’m not going to even come close to saying he’s a saint but to make such an outlandish claim without backing it up is reprehensible. And in MY OPINION only gives evidence about the author of such tales. Now if you were to admit that the likely hood of him just being prepared and ready is more likely then we can let it go. Occam’s razor, “It is a principle stating that among competing hypotheses, the one which makes the fewest assumptions should be selected.” Fewest assumptions for me is “he was prepared” end of story.

Peace
articles.latimes.com/2002/feb/20/news/mn-28924

Mormon’s are allowed to use prescription drugs, which can be chemically more damaging than caffeine to the body.

As I’ve stated numerous times before, it was an opinion based in reference to his previous performances over the past 2 months and the media’s constant bashing of same, over here.

*Utah’s high usage was cited by one of the study’s authors as the most surprising finding to emerge from the data. The study was released last summer and updated in January.

Other states with high antidepressant use were Maine and Oregon. Utah’s rate of antidepressant use was twice the rate of California and nearly three times the rates in New York and New Jersey, the study showed.

Few here question the veracity of the study, which was a tabulation of prescription orders, said Dr. Curtis Canning, president of the Utah Psychiatric Assn. But trying to understand the “why” has puzzled many, he said.*
 
articles.latimes.com/2002/feb/20/news/mn-28924

mormon’s are allowed to use prescription drugs, which can be chemically more damaging than caffeine to the body.

As i’ve stated numerous times before, it was an opinion based in reference to his previous performances over the past 2 months and the media’s constant bashing of same, over here.

*utah’s high usage was cited by one of the study’s authors as the most surprising finding to emerge from the data. The study was released last summer and updated in january.

Other states with high antidepressant use were maine and oregon. Utah’s rate of antidepressant use was twice the rate of california and nearly three times the rates in new york and new jersey, the study showed.

Few here question the veracity of the study, which was a tabulation of prescription orders, said dr. Curtis canning, president of the utah psychiatric assn. But trying to understand the “why” has puzzled many, he said.*
romney drug use is speculation and off topic!

Please stop already!
 
romney drug use is speculation and off topic!

Please stop already!
And yet President Obama wrote of his cocaine use in his own biography.

Now that’s irony!

If Romney was taking drugs last night, I would suggest he do so more often.
 
And why is that?
In one word, technology. Business has adopted the technology to have virtual companies all over the world.

This is not the doing of any politician. But, it does point out the difficulties which come with massive technological upheaval.

This is what is most frustrating to me, listening to these guys. One says he will create jobs by reducing the personal tax rate on sole proprietorships and partnerships, while the other is vague but says that he will do it by spending on education, in part.

Nobody is talking about the structural change which has occurred, and continues to accelerate in the world economy. The world workplace has profoundly changed. I would like a presidential candidate to recognize this publicly, and tell me how he intends to lead us into this new world paradigm. I would like him to say that he is going to being a substantial initiative of the best minds in business and academia, medicine and the social sectors, to come up with ideas on how to stop the decline I our prosperity, which is inevitable, unless something new happens.

I would like to hear how I, as a working middle aged person, will be expected in ten years to support two people on social security, while building my own retirement.

I would like to know what happens in 10-15 years when every factory worker on the planet is replaced by a robot. What does it mean when machines start to replace people in large numbers. What is the plan to transition to an essentially jobless society within 30 years?

Who’s does one distribute income in such a society? Does it all go to the robot and computer owners?

These are not far fetched questions.

What do we do to achieve due process and legislative sobriety, and still keep up with the astonishing rate of change? The last president’s curtailment of our civil rights was not the answer to coping with a changing world, and this one just went right along with the program. Why are we not talking about how to make our political system responsive, instead of gridlocked?

What do we do about the disenfranchisement of our entire population? By that I mean, what do we do about the ownership of our government by corporate interests?

None of these questions ever come up. All we hear about is tax rates and medical care. Important issues, but they pale in comparison to some of the larger issues.
 
I agree. A month ago, the foreign policy debate would have been an easier sell for Obama, especially with Romney being a governor. Now, it is time to unload on the President about this whole mess and the White House’s lies afterwards in a way that the press has refused to do.

You can’;t be too aggressive in a debate typically, but when people are dead and there is evidence of a coverup, you can go for blood and come off as “passionate.”
As well as Romney did in this first debate, I think he needs to be very cautious on the topic of foreign policy. This is where he risks making a mistake, especially since there is not really an substantial difference between Romney and Obama on foreign policy. They are both interventionists - it is only a matter of degree and technique and how to pay for it, etc.

It would be hard for Romney to spin the story that the White House “lied” on the Benghazi intel when the head of that intel, James Clapper, is now taking the blame for bad intel.

I don’t think too many independents like either Romney’s or Obama’s foregin policy since it is the same foreign policy of intervention.

There is only one way Romney will win the foreign policy debate. He needs to issue a foreign policy statement sometime before the debate saying that he has reassessed his foreign policy and now agrees with Ron Paul and then he needs to spend the entire foreign policy debate explaining how he would put Ron Paul’s priniples into action. You would see his poll numbers skyrocket over night.🙂
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top