US Presidential Election Debate #1

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Brit Hume: “Obama’s Not 10 Feet Tall. He Never Has Been”
“This idea that Romney won the debate because Obama basically didn’t show up – I don’t buy that. The Barack Obama I heard on that debate stage was the Barack Obama I’ve been listening to now for four years. He sounded very much like himself. I don’t think he was terribly bad, I think he has a very weak case… The president is saddled with weak circumstances and therefore a weak case. And it is not surprising to me that he didn’t argue it very well. The other thing is, despite his reputation of being this world class orator, well maybe he is with a set piece speech. But there is not much evidence in the past that he was a great debater. So I don’t think this thing was as big a shock as supporters on the left feel. I think they thought he was 10 feet tall. He’s not 10 feet tall. He never has been.”
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And either way it comes out, I’m sure the dem spin machine will be better prepared this go round.
If Biden is trounced we will hear how vp debates are nominal. If he wins we will hear how bad Ryan is for the country.
 
katcecelia said:
I for one, and my sister are both worried for Ryan…He is so confident… and Biden, as loose cannon as he can be isn’t always
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I am not worried about Ryan. He is confident because he has a tremendous command of the facts and an incredible depth in the area of economics and domestic policy. Apparently he also has a good understanding of the Middle East and foreign policy as well. Ryan is unfailingly polite and respectful. They will not be able to throw him off his game or make him angry. He is likeable and can eviscerate his opponent with that wide eyed, Midwestern charm. I’ve seen him do it many times.

What I am NOT confident of is the setting, the moderator or that Joe Biden will tell the truth. He seems to be quite able to make up stories to suit his particular cause. Ryan will have to decide if time is better spent debunking Joe’s latest pile of horse hockey or speaking about his own policies and experience. Unlike Romney, Ryan has not had a lot of recent debate experience so strategy is going to be the concern, not that he doesn’t know of what he speaks.

Apparently the moderator is a foreign policy correspondent and I expect some questions on these issues will come up.

Lisa
 
Biden Takes 6 Days Off Campaign Trail
With just about a month until Election Day, Vice President Joe Biden is in the middle of taking nearly a week off the campaign trail. He will return to doing campaign events on Thursday, when he will debate Rep. Paul Ryan in the vice presidential debate.
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Biden has probably got democrats pressuring him to do regain ground that Obama lost, that could be disadvantage for him
 
Brit Hume:

*This idea that Romney won the debate because Obama basically didn’t show up – I don’t buy that. The Barack Obama I heard on that debate stage was the Barack Obama I’ve been listening to now for four years. He sounded very much like himself. I don’t think he was terribly bad, I think he has a very weak case… The president is saddled with weak circumstances and therefore a weak case. And it is not surprising to me that he didn’t argue it very well. The other thing is, despite his reputation of being this world class orator, well maybe he is with a set piece speech. But there is not much evidence in the past that he was a great debater. So I don’t think this thing was as big a shock as supporters on the left feel. I think they thought he was 10 feet tall. He’s not 10 feet tall. He never has been.” ***

I never bought it either and was fascinated with the seeming cultlike following. I remember the 08 campaign well and occasionally he’d say something inspirational although it just sounded like typical political blather. OTOH he’d say idiotic things like the answer to the gas crisis was filling our tires properly. Then he’d beam like a 5 year old after her piano recital, basking in the glow of the adoring audience. Inane comments like the 57 states or those clinging to guns and God or spread the wealth around disappeared in the fog of “hope and change.” HUH? Hope for what and what kind of change are you proposing?

I kept asking Obama supporters what he’d done to earn their votes. There was never an answer other than “he’s got charisma” or “he’s such a fresh new face.” This among relatively intelligent and thoughtful voters.

Now that he has a (horrible) record it’s hard to imagine that many people will be fooled again. I know he’ll get his constituancies but I think many Obama voters are over him.

Lisa
 
The debate is over. The American people won. They´ll win again on the next Presendential Debate. Obama didn´t attack, simply because he couldn´t defend his record and knew it. Obama will definitely try to defend his record in the next debate, and will discover, again, that he still can´t. Like I said. The American voter will win both debates. I´m reminded of a real old campaign slogan a long time ago. In your heart, you know he´s right. The candidate using that slogan lost. Later we discovered that he was right. I remember a candidate that told the electorate that he would never lie to them, and the people believed him and voted him in. Four years later they discovered that he lied and they voted him out. Obama told the American people that he would give them Hope and Change. The American people are meditating on that promise now to see if he accomplished his mission. They will watch all three Presidential debates to see how well the President defends that promise. If The President can´t defend the promises that he made four years ago , then how can we believe what he says about his opponent now? For me I have to look to the past in order to make decisions about the future. We must remember. This election is not about Clinton policies versus Bush´s policys. It´s about Obama´s policies against what Romney says will be his policies, which are the same policies he used as Governor of Mass. A liberal state with a conservative Governor. God bless:thumbsup:👍👍
 
Now that he has a (horrible) record it’s hard to imagine that many people will be fooled again. I know he’ll get his constituancies but I think many Obama voters are over him.

Lisa

One can only hope!:o
 
As one pundit commented, Romney’s five-point plan for America, which he mentioned in the debate, is almost identical to that of George W. Bush, so much so that he might have gotten it from the Bush playbook. Any thoughts regarding what this says about Romney’s sincerity?
 
meltzerboy said:
As one pundit commented, Romney’s five-point plan for America, which he mentioned in the debate, is almost identical to that of George W. Bush, so much so that he might have gotten it from the Bush playbook. Any thoughts regarding what this says about Romney’s sincerity?
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Are you saying the points he made are not what he plans to do?
 
mary_bobo said:
Are you saying the points he made are not what he plans to do?
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I have no idea what Romney plans to do. I believe he is, above all else, a pragmatist, given his business skill, rather than an ideologue. This may be a good thing for America; however, he may also be misleading to conservatives, who think he is acting only on conservative principles. What I am suggesting with regard to Romney’s plan, is that he is not as innovative as he portrays himself, but rather expressing viewpoints in keeping with those of the prior Republican administration, viewpoints which may sound attractive but are not so easy to realize.
 
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