USCCB Delivers One Last Blow to "Catholic" Pelosi on Abortion Remarks

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By Kathleen GilbertWASHINGTON, D.C., September 3, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) released another statement yesterday condemning House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s defense of her avowedly “Catholic” pro-abortion views, this time outlining…

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Our deacon openly stated the church’s position by reading the bishops’ response to Nancy Pelosi during last Sunday’s homily. Let’s hope and pray that people are responding and the message is getting out to the church militant in the pews as well.
 
it sounds to me like they are giving her every chance to reverse herself and correct her lies. one of the last lines in the article was most telling for me.

One wonders what it will take to get her to retract her comments before more damage is done to the Catholic Church

it looks to me like time may be running out for her to turn it around before the bishops lower the boom on her and make it a formal excommunication. if they do, i think they will go for the others doing the same thing too. at least i hope they do.
 
Let’s hope her bishop responds according to the USCCB to her remarks. Because it still says, it’s up to the individual’s vicar to make the ultimate decision.

I hope he has the backbone to publicly do this! More reason to pray!

I just went to the website of the diocese of SanFrancisco and Bishop Niederauer is suppose to issue a statement on Friday Sept.5th in their diocesan paper. I hope it’s a strong statement because their website has many links to the USCCB’s statement on Faithful Citizenship and their denouncement of Nancy Pelosi’s untruths about the faith.
 
it sounds to me like they are giving her every chance to reverse herself and correct her lies. one of the last lines in the article was most telling for me.

One wonders what it will take to get her to retract her comments before more damage is done to the Catholic Church

it looks to me like time may be running out for her to turn it around before the bishops lower the boom on her and make it a formal excommunication. if they do, i think they will go for the others doing the same thing too. at least i hope they do.
I would like to think that she will retract what she said, but I don’t have much hope for that. That would jeopardize her position of pro-choice and I’m not sure she is willing to do that.
 
I would like to think that she will retract what she said, but I don’t have much hope for that. That would jeopardize her position of pro-choice and I’m not sure she is willing to do that.
well i think the day is coming where she will have to chose her faith or her career. i hope she chooses wisely.
 
The Catholic Church is now in a position where, if it wants to be taken seriously, it must do a lot more than refute the Speaker’s statement. She must be given one last chance to retract her statement and repent for her sin, or face excommunication.
If not, then catholics are indeed free to do whatever they please without fear of punishment.
 
Bishop Vasa, of Baker Diocese, Oregon, a bit north of Pelosi’s home diocese, speaks to her inability to grasp Church doctrine (actually without naming her directly).

He also addresses those who might justify support for these politicians when they misrepresent the truth. It applies to anyone who would use her flawed view of our faith.

Good for him! His column is very good as usual. You can access it here:
sentinel.org/node/9396
 
I would like to think that she will retract what she said, but I don’t have much hope for that. That would jeopardize her position of pro-choice and I’m not sure she is willing to do that.
I share your hope that she may retract, but I don’t see her admitting she’s a liar.
 
WOW! Two great articles today that make me proud to be a Catholic, the other being about Pope Benedict and the priest involved in Medjegorje. I do believe this might become a habit among the heirarchy, revitalizing their “backbone” index.
 
The Catholic Church is now in a position where, if it wants to be taken seriously, it must do a lot more than refute the Speaker’s statement. She must be given one last chance to retract her statement and repent for her sin, or face excommunication.
If not, then catholics are indeed free to do whatever they please without fear of punishment.
not quite she and all the rest of us still risk punishment if we persist in sin. only there wont be any news in that life covering it for us.
 
Well, the Archbishop of San Francisco has SPOKEN! and asked Ms Nancy if she has the time can she please enter into a conversation with him about this.

Way to take a stand! LOL LOL LOL
 
The bishops can write all the letters and make all the pronouncements they want, but Nancy and others like her won’t change. Their political goals and narcissism will see to that.

The Church’s teachings mean nothing to dyed-in-the-wool cafeteria Catholics. I believe the technical term for such a person is “formal heretic.”

HERETIC. A person professing heresy. Ecclesiastical law distinguishes between a formal heretic, as one who is sinfully culpable, and a material heretic, who is not morally guilty for professing what may be objectively heretical doctrine.

HERESY. Commonly refers to a doctrinal belief held in opposition to the recognized standards of an established system of thought. Theologically it means an opinion at variance with the authorized teachings of any church, notably the Christian, and especially when this promotes separation from the main body of faithful believers.

In the Roman Catholic Church, heresy has a very specific meaning. Anyone who, after receiving baptism, while remaining nominally a Christian, pertinaciously denies or doubts any of the truths that must be believed with divine and Catholic faith is considered a heretic. Accordingly four elements must be verified to constitute formal heresy; previous valid baptism, which need not have been in the Catholic Church; external profession of still being a Christian, otherwise a person becomes an apostate; outright denial or positive doubt regarding a truth that the Catholic Church has actually proposed as revealed by God; and the disbelief must be morally culpable, where a nominal Christian refuses to accept what he knows is a doctrinal imperative.

Objectively, therefore, to become a heretic in the strict canonical sense and be excommunicated from the faithful, one must deny or question a truth that is taught not merely on the authority of the Church but on the word of God revealed in the Scriptures or sacred tradition. Subjectively a person must recognize his obligation to believe. If he acts in good faith, as with most persons brought up in non-Catholic surroundings, the heresy is only material and implies neither guilt nor sin against faith. (Etym. Latin haeresis, from the Greek hairesis, a taking, choice, sect, heresy.)

therealpresence.org/cgi-bin/getdefinition.pl
 
The Catholic Church is now in a position where, if it wants to be taken seriously, it must do a lot more than refute the Speaker’s statement. She must be given one last chance to retract her statement and repent for her sin, or face excommunication.
If not, then catholics are indeed free to do whatever they please without fear of punishment.
If in the remote possibility Ms Pelosi were pressured by the Catholic Church to repent, retract and come clean on all of this, I predict she would probably become an Episcopalian. Her views would fit it in beautifully. And she’d have so much company from other fallen aways.
 
Well, the Archbishop of San Francisco has SPOKEN! and asked Ms Nancy if she has the time can she please enter into a conversation with him about this.

Way to take a stand! LOL LOL LOL
I’m a little lost, are you criticizing the Archbishop or Ms. Pelosi? I know that Senator Durbin (also a Catholic and staunchly pro-abortion - at least his voting record) and his staff brush off any and all Illinois bishops who visit his office to lobby/appeal to him concerning issues that go against Church teaching. Short of public excommunication, there is nothing more a bishop/archbishop/cardinal can do to truly get the attention of those who represent the diocese in which they serve.
 
Don’t be lost. I’m criticizing.
I’m also suggesting that public excommunication would be just the ticket. Else, you are back to the same kind of wishy-washy approach, full of excuses, that prevailed during the last crisis.
If a bishop won’t take a stand in support of human life, what is he there for? Why not just hire a management firm to run the diocese? hat way, no one has to worry about the moral component of the church. People like Pelosi are damaging the Catholic Church every day, by making others believe that cafeteria catholicism is OK.
 
Don’t be lost. I’m criticizing the Archbishop.
I’m also suggesting that public excommunication would be just the ticket. Else, you are back to the same kind of wishy-washy approach, full of excuses, that prevailed during the last crisis.
If a bishop won’t take a stand in support of human life, what is he there for? Why not just hire a management firm to run the diocese? hat way, no one has to worry about the moral component of the church. People like Pelosi are damaging the Catholic Church every day, by making others believe that cafeteria catholicism is OK.
 
Don’t be lost. I’m criticizing the Archbishop.
I’m also suggesting that public excommunication would be just the ticket. Else, you are back to the same kind of wishy-washy approach, full of excuses, that prevailed during the last crisis.
If a bishop won’t take a stand in support of human life, what is he there for? Why not just hire a management firm to run the diocese? hat way, no one has to worry about the moral component of the church. People like Pelosi are damaging the Catholic Church every day, by making others believe that cafeteria catholicism is OK.
I wouldn’t hold my breath that Bp. Niederauer will threaten Pelosi by denying her communion. He might give her a warning at best. His reputation for taking a stand is abysmal. Like so many of his ilk, he has feet of clay. Why does Rome put up with this nonsense?
 
a boom of excommunications would be awesome! “you think this is a joke? heck no!”

“and many disciples who could not accept His words left Him”
 
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