Using most of the MGTOW Philosophy in choosing the right women?

[TheLowestHumanBeing]

Is it bad to use most of the MGTOW Philosophy in choosing the right women for marriage? What are your thoughts about it? That’s why I am using the word ‘most’ because some of the ideas and philosophies are wrong and reject the virtue of hope and humility like hating women and acting bitter against them. I know it’s hard to come by with a woman who takes responsibility to their actions, women who is described in Proverbs 31:10-31, and most of all who humble themselves before the LORD and Husband. What are your thoughts about it. Please help me in my spiritual growth brothers. Correct me if I am wrong. Thank You.

 

[Fauken]

What good traits does MGTOW promote that women should ideally have that Catholicism doesn’t?

 

[anon91549587]

MGTOW is unhealthy , because you operate from a “complex” . There is a book from TAN publications about masculinity , i suggest reading it.

 

[TheLowestHumanBeing]

So do this mean that men are slaves for women?
So feminism is right and men are nothing but garbage ready to be dumped for sacrificing their lives for women who exploit them?
So patriarchy today is “HEVEL”?
So woman who accuse innocent man with false rape now legal?
So do I have to endure Jezebel women just to get married?

I really want to have a family but seeing modern society had become I had never been confused more than before. It’s really hard to maneuver through the maze without knowledge on how to maneuver it.

I don’t know what you mean “COMPLEX” sir/ma’am calisthenics. please elaborate for me. I don’t really understand what you mean at all. Please help me guys. I am totally confused now on what you truly mean.

I am in a state of total confusion.

 

[redbetta]

Find an orthodox Catholic woman. Trust me, we are out there and we do value men as more than mere paychecks.

While I don’t see MGTOW are a solution, I believe such a movement is the inevitable response to third wave feminism. Both movements are about members of one sex refusing the comprises it takes to live in harmony with the other. The solution is to find a Catholic woman.

 

[Lou2U]

There is a middle ground between “MGTOW” and “jezebel women”.

I recommend you stop looking at the MGTOW stuff and start genuinely looking at people around you. Anything that speaks about all women as selfish liars who treat men badly shouldn’t be listened to. It poisons your worldview and whilst you think that way, you will really struggle to meet a good woman.

So do this mean that men are slaves for women?
So feminism is right and men are nothing but garbage ready to be dumped for sacrificing their lives for women who exploit them?
So patriarchy today is “HEVEL”?
So woman who accuse innocent man with false rape now legal?
So do I have to endure Jezebel women just to get married?

No-one here has said that. The image of women you present is not an accurate one. This is why MGTOW is bad for men. You have a very distorted view of women.

I suggest you speak to your Priest about your confusion.

 

[ShrodingersCat]

I really want to have a family

You need to see a councellor and avoid the internet. You are nowhere near ready for marriage and you never will be unless you lose your toxic and entirely false view of women.

Assuming you aren’t just trolling.

 

[Rozellelily]

I am a woman and I had to look up MGTOW as I have never heard of it before.
For what I can tell,it seems to be guys that are bitter with the world and women and perceive it a certain way and as “feministic”.
In reality many women are not feminists though although it can seem they are “everywhere” because they are so vocal/loud mouthed/uncompromising in opinion.
This is especially so in the media and on twitter etc,but in everyday life I don’t see many feminists for the most part except when I go into the city (live in Australia).

MGTOW philosophy would be unhealthy to follow as it comes from complexes/bitterness/misconceptions.

Both “modern feminism” and MGTOW are extremes and unbalanced.
Surely there must be some women in your area that aren’t feminists?
If you just avoid dating those ones,then is following MGTOW philosophy even necessary?

How old are you?
What’s your nationality/background?

Edit:I just noticed you are from the Phillipines.
Im surprised that there would be a lot of feminist women there as most of the philipinos that live in Australia are Catholic and family orientated.

 

[TheLowestHumanBeing]

Sir I am very serious about this and not joking.

 

[TheLowestHumanBeing]

Find an orthodox Catholic woman. Trust me, we are out there and we do value men as more than mere paychecks.

That is exactly what I am looking for Ms redbetta. They are rare and hard to come by. Question is how to find them?

 

[Lou2U]

Firstly, work on yourself. No good Catholic woman is going to want to date someone who thinks so badly of her and of other women. So you need to change your thinking, and your perspective of women. I agree with @ShrodingersCat - look into getting some therapy to change your beliefs.

I notice you had a thread a few months ago asking where to find Catholic women. What progress have you made since then? Have you been actively looking? Have you been going to places where you may find Catholic women? Or are you waiting for them to come to you?

 

[TheLowestHumanBeing]

A VERY BIG EPIC FACE PALM TO MYSELF. Sigh!!!

Sigh!!!
I think you are right. I think it’s time to read Books on Masculinity from Tan Publications. Thanks Brother, you are a lifesaver. No one suggested that to me. If I had never asked, I might be doomed and disappointed in life and lonely with unfulfilled dream of having a family.

Firstly, work on yourself. No good Catholic woman is going to want to date someone who thinks so badly of her and of other women. So you need to change your thinking, and your perspective of women. I agree with @ShrodingersCat - look into getting some therapy to change your beliefs.

I notice you had a thread a few months ago asking where to find Catholic women. What progress have you made since then? Have you been actively looking? Have you been going to places where you may find Catholic women?

I think I have to wait for 2 to 3 years before I could go to places due to my financial problems at hand. I am confined here in my place due to that.

Or are you waiting for them to come to you?

NO Brother. I am willing to search the whole world to find her.

 

[Lea101]

Yes it’s generally bad.

What exactly do you mean by the mgtow philosophy? There are plenty of stuff there that are sinful, and stuff there that would be morally neutral that you would find in basic conservatism. So yeah, if you want a helpful answer, state exactly what you’re taking from there first.

Normally, I’ll recommend you to not do it. There’s a reason why most men there are constantly, constantly angry and whining on social media. And I can see why. It’s a rabbit hole. A trap. It’s true that men aren’t being treated that well these days. But people who start with this usually end up more polarized than ever.

Stuff like self improvement, going to the gym etc? Perfectly fine for anyone to take up. The stuff regarding relationships, nah man. It’ll mess with your soul.

A good Catholic woman wouldn’t tolerate a lot of those stuff, even if she’s traditional. Hopefully, lol.

How’s your situation now? Financially secure? Well adjusted emotionally? Growing in your spiritual life? I can’t tell if you’re ready to date at this point.

Ultimately you need to be the man your dream woman would be interested in. If that’s not you now, don’t worry about finding her yet.

 

[TheLowestHumanBeing]

I think you are right too. I think I am unprepared financially, emotionally, and spiritually. To think about it I admit that I am an ignorant fool myself. With words from you guys I think I am growing to be the person I want to be. Thanks Lea101.

 

[LawyersGunsAndMoney]

So do this mean that men are slaves for women?
So feminism is right and men are nothing but garbage ready to be dumped for sacrificing their lives for women who exploit them?
So patriarchy today is “HEVEL”?
So woman who accuse innocent man with false rape now legal?
So do I have to endure Jezebel women just to get married?

no one said anything even close to this. It’s not that complicated. Men and women should treat one another with respect. It’s not like the only two options are “men treat women like garbage” or “women treat men like garbage.”

As to your questions about finding a “traditional” Catholic woman: ask yourself if you’re making yourself an attractive prospect? Or are you just expecting the perfect woman to fall from the sky? Are you friendly and outgoing? Are you active socially? Do you take care of your appearance (do you exercise? Practice good hygiene?) Do you have a good job?

Maybe asking yourself these questions and trying to improve yourself would be more productive than scrutinizing how “traditional” the women you meet are.

 

[Nicky777]

Better yet. Use your Catholic philosophy to choose your bride.

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

Are you working on removing the beam from your own eye?
Are you becoming the best version of you?

And how about just asking somebody out that you like? That you laugh with and have fun with? Get to know her as a friend before you “audition” her for wife?

 

[phil19034]

redbetta:

Find an orthodox Catholic woman. Trust me, we are out there and we do value men as more than mere paychecks.

That is exactly what I am looking for Ms redbetta. They are rare and hard to come by. Question is how to find them?

Try CatholicMatch.com and/or catholicsingles.com

God Bless

 

[Sarcelle]

Good post

Deal with others as individuals first not as a representative of a collective.

Start with friendship first.

 

[Brendea]

I will give you some advice.

Stop reading things you find on the internet.
Not all women are feminists and not all women see a man as a paycheck please do not lump all us women into the same basket.

I’ve never heard of MGTOW until now however it looks like something a bitter guy who whines and moans would be interested in, no good women wants a bitter husband.

Work on self improvement get your finances sorted and wait a bit use the time your sorting out your finances to grow emotionally, spiritually and mature.

I have seen your in the philipines All philipino women I have met here in New Zealand are all catholics who are very much family focussed.

When you are ready there are some catholic dating sites however I would recommend going to church opening your eyes and talk to the women there. Don’t jump into the whole dating conversation thing straight away but start with a HI how are you
Or even talk about the weather.