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The real question is “are you prepared to trust Him with all the hard decisions from now on?” You have experienced the Holy Spirit’s light, and you are forgiven. You still have questions about this, and maybe the Holy Spirit is leading you to a more perfect contrition for this sin, that is, a better understanding of how this sin hurt God, to help you keep from sinning in this way again. Although you have only so many biological children, everyday you meet His children. Many of the people you meet will have need of your prayers, your time, your effort, or your money. Sometimes it will be hard to give. In those times, you should know that when (strengthened by prayers for guidance) you help His children, you have accepted your role as a Father and that You are representing Him in a way that’s pleasing to Him.
 
Hi,
I encourage you to get the book “Sterilization Reversal: A Generous Act of Love”. It is currently not being printed new, but there are copies available on Amazon.com. Also go to www.omsoul.com for more information on reversals and so much more.
My husband and I went through a reversal 2 1/2 years ago and I can not begin to tell you about the unexpected graces and joys that have been a result of listening to God’s call upon our hearts. We have not been blessed with a baby, but it is hard to explain the incredible “new life” of faith that has come into our entire family. Also, the graces on our marriage, I never could have imagined when we took this leap of faith.
We were not “required” by the Church to do this, but when I had originally gone to confession the priest suggested I stay open to it. I did not want to hear that (I preferred not have any more children, and what irony that now each month I am sad not to be pregnant) and went about my business because well the Church did not require it. Then a few years later during Eucharistic Adoration, God strongly put it upon my heart to ask my husband to get one. Well, I asked even though I was afraid he would say yes. He didn’t say yes, but he didn’t say no. I thought there I did my part God, now if you really want this you will change his heart, but I did not pray for it. I didn’t, but my daughter did as she fervently would pray for a baby brother or sister.
It took 5 years, but God changed not only his heart, but mine also. Please don’t wait 5 years!
I tell you from a Joy and “Peace beyond understanding” that “Today if you hear His voice, harden not your heart.”
Sincerely,
Larswc
 
The real question is “are you prepared to trust Him with all the hard decisions from now on?” You have experienced the Holy Spirit’s light, and you are forgiven. You still have questions about this, and maybe the Holy Spirit is leading you to a more perfect contrition for this sin, that is, a better understanding of how this sin hurt God, to help you keep from sinning in this way again. Although you have only so many biological children, everyday you meet His children. Many of the people you meet will have need of your prayers, your time, your effort, or your money. Sometimes it will be hard to give. In those times, you should know that when (strengthened by prayers for guidance) you help His children, you have accepted your role as a Father and that You are representing Him in a way that’s pleasing to Him.
I have taken a volunteer position at a Public Radio station reading newspapers to some of God’s children who are sight impaired. I get no pay for it but the satisfaction of knowing I’m giving of myself to people who can’t read for themselves.
 
I want to recommend another Theology of the Body series by Christopher West that is very cheap. I just checked and it is also FREE to stream or download online!

It’s called “Naked Without Shame” and I believe it covers just about everything, although I don’t recall anything that DIRECTLY deals with the question of reversing a vasectomy.

It’s wonderful. It’s my personal discipline to listen to the whole set at least once a year and I have it shuffle in my iPod. (Hopefully it’ll sink in entirely one of these days) I love John Paul’s Theology of the Body teachings, they are beautiful, and if we Catholics absorb it, build it into our culture, we’re going to thrive.

Check out the Gift Foundation at giftfoundation.org/products_naked.cfm
 
I want to recommend another Theology of the Body series by Christopher West that is very cheap. I just checked and it is also FREE to stream or download online!

It’s called “Naked Without Shame” and I believe it covers just about everything, although I don’t recall anything that DIRECTLY deals with the question of reversing a vasectomy.

It’s wonderful. It’s my personal discipline to listen to the whole set at least once a year and I have it shuffle in my iPod. (Hopefully it’ll sink in entirely one of these days) I love John Paul’s Theology of the Body teachings, they are beautiful, and if we Catholics absorb it, build it into our culture, we’re going to thrive.

Check out the Gift Foundation at giftfoundation.org/products_naked.cfm
I always feel “Naked WITH shame” even before my wife. There are a lot of religious things that I read and listen to that I hope will sink in eventually so I can confess “Been there, done that!” Thank you for all the websites I will try to check them out.
 
I see here many, maybe all, individuals who have had a vasectomy in this post had them done while outside of the Catholic Church. My point of view is from someone who has and is a practicing Catholic and has had a vasectomy.

As with a previous individual, our doctor (a devout practicing Catholic) stated after our last child was born that if another pregnancy would occur the chances of the baby not surviving were just shy of guaranteed. In addition, the possibility of my wife not surviving was just as great. Please understand the issue here. Not that the child may be born with special needs, but that the child would not be born alive and that my wife would not survive the pregnancy. If this were an issue of special needs I would not be having this discussion.

With that knowledge and much prayer, I and my wife decided that I would have a vasectomy. I know many out there are going to say that I/we have committed a grave sin and in the eyes of the church that may be so. My intention here is to simply offer a real life, human view point and to not try and change the teaching of the Church.

In the situation of human weakness, when looking at the possibility of having to make a decision on whether to lose a child and save my wife, or deliver the child and lose my wife or even worse, to lose both of them, I choose to not have to make that decision. I thank God that through His grace He allowed the knowledge and intricacies of human childbirth to be understood by gifted doctors and that my family was placed in the care of a Catholic doctor who understood our family’s situation fully.

So, I have had a vasectomy and am Catholic. I am sure many here will condemn my actions as a grave sin and offer many paths for me to follow in reconciling my action. All I can say is thank you, may God bless you, and continue holding true to the faith. I feel we need as many of you as we can get. I am at peace with the decision my wife and I made. Our relationship and closeness as husband and wife has grown exponentially and our family has become stronger. God placed us together and gave us the situation we have. All are blessings. We believe He also gave us knowledge and insight to make difficult decisions when things are not “of the norm”. God does not make junk my kids say, and nothing God does is an accident or mistake. He blesses us all with challenges and difficulties and the issue then comes down to us on how we respond to each other and ourselves.

Anyway, just a point of view from someone like many of you is just trying to make some sense of it all and help as many around us as we can. As full disclosure the doctor I reference above was not the one that performed the vasectomy, obviously he is an OB/GYN, and I never discussed having a vasectomy with him.
 
I want to recommend another Theology of the Body series by Christopher West that is very cheap. I just checked and it is also FREE to stream or download online!

It’s called “Naked Without Shame” and I believe it covers just about everything, although I don’t recall anything that DIRECTLY deals with the question of reversing a vasectomy.

It’s wonderful. It’s my personal discipline to listen to the whole set at least once a year and I have it shuffle in my iPod. (Hopefully it’ll sink in entirely one of these days) I love John Paul’s Theology of the Body teachings, they are beautiful, and if we Catholics absorb it, build it into our culture, we’re going to thrive.

Check out the Gift Foundation at giftfoundation.org/products_naked.cfm
Rocky, I was just going to suggest this. Very inexpensive and gives a good overview for the beginner and whets the appetite for further study.

Also some online articles by Christopher West.
catholiceducation.org/articles/sexuality/se0096.html
 
I always feel “Naked WITH shame” even before my wife. There are a lot of religious things that I read and listen to that I hope will sink in eventually so I can confess “Been there, done that!” Thank you for all the websites I will try to check them out.
If you go to TOB.com, I think you can get a workbook to go with that 10 CD set. It was part of the original program. I listened to it and bought the book but I haven’t taken the time to listen a second time.

BTDT2
 
I see here many, maybe all, individuals who have had a vasectomy in this post had them done while outside of the Catholic Church. My point of view is from someone who has and is a practicing Catholic and has had a vasectomy.

As with a previous individual, our doctor (a devout practicing Catholic) stated after our last child was born that if another pregnancy would occur the chances of the baby not surviving were just shy of guaranteed. In addition, the possibility of my wife not surviving was just as great. Please understand the issue here. Not that the child may be born with special needs, but that the child would not be born alive and that my wife would not survive the pregnancy. If this were an issue of special needs I would not be having this discussion.

With that knowledge and much prayer, I and my wife decided that I would have a vasectomy. I know many out there are going to say that I/we have committed a grave sin and in the eyes of the church that may be so. My intention here is to simply offer a real life, human view point and to not try and change the teaching of the Church.

In the situation of human weakness, when looking at the possibility of having to make a decision on whether to lose a child and save my wife, or deliver the child and lose my wife or even worse, to lose both of them, I choose to not have to make that decision. I thank God that through His grace He allowed the knowledge and intricacies of human childbirth to be understood by gifted doctors and that my family was placed in the care of a Catholic doctor who understood our family’s situation fully.

So, I have had a vasectomy and am Catholic. I am sure many here will condemn my actions as a grave sin and offer many paths for me to follow in reconciling my action. All I can say is thank you, may God bless you, and continue holding true to the faith. I feel we need as many of you as we can get. I am at peace with the decision my wife and I made. Our relationship and closeness as husband and wife has grown exponentially and our family has become stronger. God placed us together and gave us the situation we have. All are blessings. We believe He also gave us knowledge and insight to make difficult decisions when things are not “of the norm”. God does not make junk my kids say, and nothing God does is an accident or mistake. He blesses us all with challenges and difficulties and the issue then comes down to us on how we respond to each other and ourselves.

Anyway, just a point of view from someone like many of you is just trying to make some sense of it all and help as many around us as we can. As full disclosure the doctor I reference above was not the one that performed the vasectomy, obviously he is an OB/GYN, and I never discussed having a vasectomy with him.
Sometimes we have to look at things from a different perspective. Like killing in defence. Maybe it was a good choice, maybe it wasn’t. We have to throw ourselves onto the mercy of God for our actions when we know we have made the choice to go against a teaching. If you are not truely sorry, yet. It is understandable. However, I understand that you should not take communion until you can give a clear confession. However, you should discuss this with your priest. I understand your concern and your situation. If you need help understanding why the church has the teachings it does, then TOB is for you. It will explain it quite nicely. You are far from alone and I for one can not throw a stone at you. I will advise you to understand the “rule” and find your way back to the church. She is very forgiving, especially of us.
 
Sometimes we have to look at things from a different perspective. Like killing in defence. Maybe it was a good choice, maybe it wasn’t. We have to throw ourselves onto the mercy of God for our actions when we know we have made the choice to go against a teaching. If you are not truely sorry, yet. It is understandable. However, I understand that you should not take communion until you can give a clear confession. However, you should discuss this with your priest. I understand your concern and your situation. If you need help understanding why the church has the teachings it does, then TOB is for you. It will explain it quite nicely. You are far from alone and I for one can not throw a stone at you. I will advise you to understand the “rule” and find your way back to the church. She is very forgiving, especially of us.
I’m not sure if it would make much difference now since I’m 62 and my wife is 55. All I know is back then our doctor said my wife could not have any more children and hope to survive and I didn’t want her to go through what she did having our last one plus we had no idea what the Catholic Church taught because we were not part of it.
 
I’m not sure if it would make much difference now since I’m 62 and my wife is 55. All I know is back then our doctor said my wife could not have any more children and hope to survive and I didn’t want her to go through what she did having our last one plus we had no idea what the Catholic Church taught because we were not part of it.
So you did it out of fear. We do many things in fear or to reduce our anxiety. It’s only after we come to terms with it that we can be free. My assumptions is that since you weren’t Catholic yet, that one gets swept up in the initial Confession, not specifically but if you understood it not to be sin, then it wasn’t mortal. I have a few of those skeletons in my closet too since I converted in 1988. However, I later did a general confession of my unholy behavior prior to being Catholic (that I didn’t do at my first confession:doh2: ) and I did feel a lot better. Just be clear to state up front that these were sins you want to clear yourself of from prior to being Catholic.

At the risk of crossing two threads here… TOB is a way of living. Of how you see your spouse. It covers this issue as just a small set of trees in a large forest. We need the larger view to understand the importance of a given tree (rule). A tree can not stand up to a strong wind. However, if the tree is part of a large stand of trees, they support each other. TOB pulls all these “outdated constraints” together.
 
LegoGE1947,

None of us is your judge. I agree strongly with those who suggested practicing natural family planning. It greatly improves communication and intimacy in married couples.

You say that you elected for the surgery before you became Catholic. You just need to be sure that in your heart, your marriage really is open to life and open to God’s will.

NFP isn’t supposed to be used with a contraceptive mentality, either. It’s supposed to be used with discernment to space out births when one has a good reason. Er, when TWO (together) have a good reason, I mean. And one should be entering into that marital embrace accepting that a pregnancy may result, or else embrace sexual abstinence.
 
Hi. I’m female, 44, mom to 6, ages 21-19-15-12-6-3, and had my tubes tied at birth of #6. My doctors, midwife, family, husband all recommended it due to how back my pregnancies were and how weakened my uterus was and how irregular my cycles were and the fact that according to my faithful charting, our last was God’s little miracle so we couldn’t even assume nfp would protect me and my future children from death. Anyhow, I didn’t fully realise the gravity of my sin and since have had terrible remorse and confessed and wonder if I should have another operation to restore openess to children even with the real risks involved. I am having a terrible time dealing with this constant nagging guilt.
 
Hi. I’m female, 44, mom to 6, ages 21-19-15-12-6-3, and had my tubes tied at birth of #6. My doctors, midwife, family, husband all recommended it due to how back my pregnancies were and how weakened my uterus was and how irregular my cycles were and the fact that according to my faithful charting, our last was God’s little miracle so we couldn’t even assume nfp would protect me and my future children from death. Anyhow, I didn’t fully realise the gravity of my sin and since have had terrible remorse and confessed and wonder if I should have another operation to restore openess to children even with the real risks involved. I am having a terrible time dealing with this constant nagging guilt.
Yes, that’s what the problem really is. The guilt. You have confessed but apparently that has not yet worked its magic. You are not required to reverse the situation because that is more “elective” surgery. However, if that is what YOU require, then of course that may be your remedy.

We all take our pennace. I do mine by trying to talk others out of it. I can’t reverse all the damage to my life, but I can try to help others avoid it. Hope this helps. Remember, you have 6 blessings already and they need help understanding the church rules. Remember also the anxiety you felt before. That is why you did it. I understand. We all make mistakes in our lives and sometimes the best thing left for us is to explain that the mistake can be costly and try to talk others out of the same mistakes. I always hope that, when coming from experience, these things make more sense to people than when it appears it comes from celebet old men that “don’t understand the real world.” KWIM?
 
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