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MagdalenaRita
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One reason the vote came out the way it did is because those voting were chosen because they were already in favor of married priests and probably most everything else being proposed.
Vatican Amazon synod proposes ordination of married men as priests with a vote of 128 to 41
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jack63
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US Catholics make up only about 6% of the Catholics in the world. I don’t think in makes a great deal of sense to project the problems and struggles that US Catholics face onto the rest of the world.
Catholic Church by country - Wikipedia
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gracepoole
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I wasn’t speaking of Catholic populations – I was speaking of the number of priests produced by country. Priests often do not stay where they grow. Thank God.
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jack63
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Ok so I looked up some stats…
In 2017, there were a total of 414,582 priests worldwide (see the Wikipedia page)
In 2014, there were a total of 39,600 priests in the US (see USA today page)
This means that approximately 9.6% of the world’s priests are in the US. Being that about 1 in 6 priests in the US were probably not trained in the US (They were trained in Asia, Africa, or India) perhaps 8% of the world’s priests were trained in the US.
Again, I don’t believe you can say that a 17 year old book describing the training of about 8% of the world’s priests in the United States is relevant to the priest shortage in the Amazon or really anywhere else in the world. I certainly don’t believe this book could or should be used to say that the vocation shortage in the Amazon was manufactured.
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In 2017, there were a total of 414,582 priests worldwide (see the Wikipedia page)
In 2014, there were a total of 39,600 priests in the US (see USA today page)
This means that approximately 9.6% of the world’s priests are in the US. Being that about 1 in 6 priests in the US were probably not trained in the US (They were trained in Asia, Africa, or India) perhaps 8% of the world’s priests were trained in the US.
Again, I don’t believe you can say that a 17 year old book describing the training of about 8% of the world’s priests in the United States is relevant to the priest shortage in the Amazon or really anywhere else in the world. I certainly don’t believe this book could or should be used to say that the vocation shortage in the Amazon was manufactured.
Priest shortage in the Catholic Church - Wikipedia
U.S. Catholics face shortage of priests
The Catholic church is busy trying to identify the next generation of spiritual leaders.
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Joe_5859
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With 41 “no” votes", this actually makes it one of the least popular things that the synod fathers voted on (even if a majority were in favor).
To me, it seems like ordaining married men to solve the vocation crisis is only a stop-gap solution that isn’t likely to improve things long term. The more pressing question is why more Catholic men in that area are not responding to the call to be priests. Or—if Grace Poole’s reference to Rose’s book is applicable—why are good Catholic men being turned away from seminary. Responding to those questions would go a lot further to changing things in a more lasting way.
But I don’t live there and I wasn’t at the synod. Maybe they talked about that as well.
To me, it seems like ordaining married men to solve the vocation crisis is only a stop-gap solution that isn’t likely to improve things long term. The more pressing question is why more Catholic men in that area are not responding to the call to be priests. Or—if Grace Poole’s reference to Rose’s book is applicable—why are good Catholic men being turned away from seminary. Responding to those questions would go a lot further to changing things in a more lasting way.
But I don’t live there and I wasn’t at the synod. Maybe they talked about that as well.
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