Regardless whether or not anyone can cite the first stone thrown, you cannot argue that the islamists continue to this very day casting stones, shooting, and beheading Christians. I see no point in your request for evidence of the first stone being thrown.
I use to be a man of faith. But seek to be a man of direct experience. While it possible to be a man of direct experience in spiritual based religions, such as Catholicism, Eastern Orthodox Christianity, traditional Sunni Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism etc, it is usually veiled in dogma.
Um… Catholics have never believed that. You are mistaken. The Church has never dogmatized anyone in hell, not Judas, not Hitler, especially not a man like Gandhi - whether he goes to hell or heaven is up to God alone.
Oh, perhaps I’m did what you just did. As you bunched all Muslims together and labeled it Islam, I bunch all Christians together. Because I’ve met some very judgmental Christians.
I see. Except, we specifically stated the opposite in the beginning. We already agreed that most Muslims are peaceful and non-violent, our disagreement is whether the Shariah/Islamic/fundamentalist/majority system breeds violence.
Aw, come on, man. Granted it is your personal opinion but what do you expect a Christian would say? And you are wrong too. Christians do not say that a Muslim must experience the Devil when he has a spiritual experience. Yes, there is some aspect of Islamic belief that can be construed from Christianity viewpoint and theology to come from the Devil when it contradicts Christianity’ doctrine or if it fits Christianity definition of what the Devil is doing. It is foolhardy to assume that a Christian must profess that it comes from God even though his belief says it could not be.
FYI, Christians, particularly Catholics, cannot say for sure that any one person who had died, not even Judas Iscariot the betrayer of Jesus, who would go to hell. Everybody has a chance to go to heaven.
With respect, this post goes against the very grain of what it means to be Christian, and more specifically Catholic…
Well if a Muslim is inspired by God to remain Muslim I don’t assume that a Christian will believe that he was inspired by God. That would be rather naïve of me.
It seens to me that you believe Islam is a violent religion and used what a Sunni Muslim would call a heretic as proof that Islam is violent.
This is a false belief and not one the Catholic Church teaches. The Church teaches that no-one knows if a person goes to Heaven or Hell. Also, the CC teaches that anyone of any faith or no faith can be saved by God and enter Heaven for his Mercy is infinite. If they lived a good and moral life and were unaware of His Church or never fully understood it’s Teachings then they are at God’s mercy. No they are not automatically destined for Hell.
How do you explain the declaration of Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, “Cantate Domino,” 1441:
A true post of humility. Bravo Savingrace for posting something that strikes at the heart of the true teachings of ALL major global religions
This is the very reason why I take the Word of Baha’u’llah as the Divine Word for mankind in this glorious Age, as against the word of the Church which I believe is influenced somewhat by the “Spirit of the Age” which flows into the world by each Manifestation of God from Age to Age, as attested initially by Krishna 3000 years ago and further attested by all the Old Testament Prophets through to Jesus, Muhammad and The Bab and Baha’u’llah
Keep going dear friend, keep going!!
They are at Gods mercy which is infinite. Pope Francis says atheists who do good can go to Heaven. If they lead a moral and good life then it’s up to God to make the judgement.
Very beautiful phrasing. I like it.
Thank you. Right back atchya.YOU are beautiful my fellow Aussie
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Has he officially been labelled one? And overall, what does that mean in Sunni Islam? According to mainstream Sunni, aren’t all Shi’a heretic? Bahai also? Druze? Alawi?