Vatican close to agreement with Society of St. Pius X [CC]

[Catholic_Press]

The Vatican is close to a long-awaited agreement to regularize the status of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX).

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[rfournier103]

Tremendous news!!! Loooking forward to having them rejoin us at long last!

 

[phil19034]

Praying for a happy reunion

 

[Pulvis]

I pray that the reunification will happen this time.

 

[Tobias2]

If this were to happen, how would it impact the FSSP and other similar groups? Would they fold into the Prelature - given that some bishops have not been as open as others in following SP.

Also, the FSSP stand alone parishes become somewhat redundant in areas where there are SSPX chapels. Splitting a relatively small pool of individuals who prefer to attend the old Rite

There are a few orders of nuns (Benedictines of Mary) who follow the old Rite and it’d seem logical for them to fold into the prelature.

I wonder if this issue has come up in the discussions? .

 

[Padres1969]

If this were to happen, how would it impact the FSSP and other similar groups? Would they fold into the Prelature - given that some bishops have not been as open as others in following SP.

Also, the FSSP stand alone parishes become somewhat redundant in areas where there are SSPX chapels. Splitting a relatively small pool of individuals who prefer to attend the old Rite

There are a few orders of nuns (Benedictines of Mary) who follow the old Rite and it’d seem logical for them to fold into the prelature.

I wonder if this issue has come up in the discussions? .

Why would the existence of one preclude the other?

 

[PaulfromIowa]

Also, the FSSP stand alone parishes become somewhat redundant in areas where there are SSPX chapels. Splitting a relatively small pool of individuals who prefer to attend the old Rite

There is an enormous between those who are in full communion with the Church and their bishops and those who are not. If and when the SSPX is regularized, this redundancy may become an issue.

 

[rfournier103]

If this were to happen, how would it impact the FSSP and other similar groups? Would they fold into the Prelature - given that some bishops have not been as open as others in following SP.

Also, the FSSP stand alone parishes become somewhat redundant in areas where there are SSPX chapels. Splitting a relatively small pool of individuals who prefer to attend the old Rite.

I don’t think it would affect anyone. Certainly not in the short term.

The FSSP is a PRIESTLY fraternity, open to clergy only. Wherever there is a FSSP parish already, I don’t think it will change anything. Those people will not be very likely to pull up stakes and all of a sudden start going to another parish.

Catholics already attending SSPX Masses at SSPX chapels will have no desire to leave their groups, either. And the talk is of SSPX becoming a personal prelature like Opus Dei. That leads me to believe that laymen would become part of the SSPX. So, SSPX and FSSP would become apples and oranges.

There are also many areas that have one and not the other. Neither group has a church close enough to me (within a town or two) to warrant a Sunday morning drive. As it is, I already drive by two parishes to go to the one I attend on Sunday mornings.

More ‘orthodox’ Catholicism is a good thing. Especially in these times. The SSPX will never accept consolidation - nor should they.

There are a few orders of nuns (Benedictines of Mary) who follow the old Rite and it’d seem logical for them to fold into the prelature. I wonder if this issue has come up in the discussions?

I’m sure it has come up.

 

[TMC]

We have seen this announcement every year or so for probably a decade. The Vatican is always close to an agreement with SSPX. Unfortunately, SSPX has not been amenable to agreeing with the Vatican. I hope this attempt bears fruit, but will wait and see.

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

Not holding my breath, but definitely crossing my fingers! This would be wonderful news for my area.

 

[pnewton]

We have seen this announcement every year or so for probably a decade. The Vatican is always close to an agreement with SSPX. Unfortunately, SSPX has not been amenable to agreeing with the Vatican. I hope this attempt bears fruit, but will wait and see.

Not holding my breath, but definitely crossing my fingers! This would be wonderful news for my area.

That is my reaction as well. At least in this case, I think we have the right Pope for this. The question is whether the SSPX is willing to hold their positions without insisting the rest of the Catholic Church agree with all of them.

I know this agreement would be a great boon to several people here. +

 

[twf]

Why would the existence of one preclude the other?

Exactly. Its a big Church. There are already a number of canonical entities that exist to preserve the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite. In addition to the FSSP and Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest (or whatever its full name is), there is also an entire diocese. Well…kinda.
The Apostolic Administration of St. Jean Vianney…they have their own bishop, their territory is coterminus with the Diocese of Campos, Brazil…and they exclusively celebrate the EF. Both clergy AND faithful belong to this Apostolic Administration. catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dsjmv.html

Description: Territory: same as Diocese of Campos, Brazil; Personal; Uses the Missal of John XXIII.

I believe their Apostolic Administrator is currently the only bishop in the Church who would exclusively use the EF Missal. If the SSPX are regularized as a Personal Prelature, that number would go up.