Vatican counters claims of Pope 'polling' Catholics on 'gay marriage' [CNA]

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All they need to do is look at the various polls that have already been done on this issue. It is clear, at least in the USA, what side the majority of Catholics are on. :rolleyes:
And you’re point? LiberalPrincess, I don’t care if 99% of American Catholics support this. The Church teaches truths…and these can never, and in fact will never, ever change…period! It never ceases to amaze me that liberal Catholics actually believe that if the majority supports something, then the Church must change to appease the masses! I work with several liberal Catholics who think like this. And even though I tell them time after time that the Church will never change their position on so-called SSM, and in fact can’t change this, they won’t budge. I’d have better luck convincing a brick.

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I don’t know why people got in such a huff about the original article. My first reaction to it was POSITIVE; I thought “oh good, Pope Francis is seeing how well individual parishes are staying true to Catholic doctrine.” Now I’m disappointed that the Vatican didn’t poll the parishes.
The did - sort of . The real poll was sent to the Bishops to distribute to deaneries and parishes.

Note the real poll is not about how people feel about Church teaching or even what the Church should do. It’s an assessment of what pastoral practices are in place and how they are working.
 
The did - sort of . The real poll was sent to the Bishops to distribute to deaneries and parishes.

Note the real poll is not about how people feel about Church teaching or even what the Church should do. It’s an assessment of what pastoral practices are in place and how they are working.
I mean…I like that too, but I still wish the Vatican would poll to see where the trouble areas are. When I went through RCIA, one of the “cradle Catholic” women on campus sat in on our course on the 6th/9th Commandments and was visibly distressed at the moral teachings on homosexuality. This from a girl who has very, very strong faith in the Church! If we know where people are struggling to accept Church teachings, we would also know where to strengthen our intrareligious ministry. Just my 2 cents.
 
And you’re point? LiberalPrincess, I don’t care if 99% of American Catholics support this. The Church teaches truths…and these can never, and in fact will never, ever change…period! It never ceases to amaze me that liberal Catholics actually believe that if the majority supports something, then the Church must change to appease the masses! I work with several liberal Catholics who think like this. And even though I tell them time after time that the Church will never change their position on so-called SSM, and in fact can’t change this, they won’t budge. I’d have better luck convincing a brick.

***Peace, Mark ***
I think this illustrates your point pretty well:

eyeofthetiber.com/2012/10/21/new-poll-shows-50-of-catholics-disagree-with-jesus-stance-on-gay-marriage-2/

(And yes, Eye on the Tiber is a spoof website)
 
I don’t quite understand the purpose or ultimate aim. For this poll/survey. Church teaching will not change. What is needed is better evangelization and a better way of proclaiming what church teaching actually is. A lot of uninformed catholics out there. Just look at current polls
 
I don’t quite understand the purpose or ultimate aim. For this poll/survey. Church teaching will not change. What is needed is better evangelization and a better way of proclaiming what church teaching actually is. A lot of uninformed catholics out there. Just look at current polls
My understanding is that the purpose is to determine the nature of the problem (like how, where and why people are uninformed), to determine what methods are currently being used to proclaim Church teachings, and to determine how those methods can be improved.

As I see it, it really seems aimed at improving Catechesis in these areas, and at developing pastoral/practical methods for dealing with the problems.

I say this because the questions are all based around “Do people understand Church teachings?”, “How are we currently proclaiming the teachings?”, and “What suggestions are there for improving how we proclaim the teachings?”.
 
Try and find a poll of weekly Catholic mass goers with the result being that the majority support homosexual marriage.
Sadly, in some places you might. But those people aren’t running the Church. God, through the action of the Holy Spirit is, through His appointed ministers. Too bad we don’t listen to them more.
 
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