**No need to be contestant. My comments were nothing more than my understanding of some of the Satanic defilments. They are NOT aimed at anyone but merely infomative.Aah, so I’ve not used the correct terminology. Thanks for the correction :tiphat:
I’m not being contestant at all - it was a sincere thank you. I’m happy to be corrected on points like this on which I’m not especially well educated.**No need to be contestant. My comments were nothing more than my understanding of some of the Satanic defilments. They are NOT aimed at anyone but merely infomative.
This is an important thread and is deserving of perceptions of the ingratitude and hatred towards the Son of God.
Those that defile Jesus in the Eucharist hate us as well.
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**Sorry. I am not well-versed myself. At times a subject now and then comes up. Oddly, I read of miracles occurring at these evil assemblies every rare once in awhile. Believe it or not a Satan worshiper is converted at such a time. God works in mysterious ways.I’m not being contestant at all - it was a sincere thank you. I’m happy to be corrected on points like this on which I’m not especially well educated.
**Father Corapi endorses Communion-in-the-hand?I sort of like what Fr. Corapi once said about communion in the hand. It should be okay because we do more harm with our tongues than we do with our hands.
Can one be in favor of communion in the hand and still be considered an orthodox catholic?**Father Corapi endorses Communion-in-the-hand?
I have a hard time believing that.**
Yes, you can receive in the hand and still be an orthodox Catholic.Can one be in favor of communion in the hand and still be considered an orthodox catholic?
He certainly did. While the quote is not exact it is pretty close. And don’t you agree we do more damage with our words towards people than we actually physically harm them.**Father Corapi endorses Communion-in-the-hand? **
I have a hard time believing that.
In the U.S. and other countries the President’ Head of State warrants a salute…that is an external symbol of the respect for the office. But this is FAR, FAR MORE !Much of this discussion reminds me of yesterday’s Gospel reading (The man born blind, John 9). The pharisee’s got so caught up in the fact that our Lord had restored this man’s sight on a Sabbath that they forgot to give praise for his sight being restored.
Likewise it appears to me that some people in this forum are more concerned with posture than with the reality of Christ’s presence in the Holy Eucharist.
“Posture”? Would you have your hands in your pockets were He to appear to YOU? This is NOT something from “Book of Etiquette” it is Jesus IN PERSON. It transcends our mortal senses…it is beyond our realization.
I am much more concerned with people who receive in a state of mortal sin than those who reverently recieve in the hand.
These are two very separate and distinct consequences. Once it was a sacrilege to touch the Eucharist with unconsecrated hands…the Vatican is taking a long look at that as this thread is reporting.
Of course I have no way of knowing who these people are, but I am sure there are more than a few.
I choose to receive on the tongue, as to me this is an outward sign of humility, as is the bow that I give prior to receiving. This does not mean that I should pridefully make assumptions about someone else’s piety if they choose to receive in the hand, as I did for many years.
Since you receive 'on the tongue" and do NOT cast judgment on those that do not the question arises: Who DOES cast judgment? I have a strong sense NO ONE !
If we want to restore a reverence for the Eucharist, than I believe that adoration is the key. No one who regularly spends time in Eucharistic adoration will take a lacadazical (sp?) approach to receiving our Lord.
Good, solid point.
We need to not be so caught up in the externals that we forget the internal reality that Christ has called all of us into HIS Church, and to receive HIS Body and Blood. Even if there are people there who we believe are receiving in an irreverant manner, we should be grateful that they are there at all and pray that their reception of the Eucharist will bring them grace and internal conversion.
While members of the military salute the President of the US, civilians don’t. The appropriate measure of respect is determined by custom and customs can change from time to time. Certainly, Jesus deserves our respect and much more. But of course, receiving in the hand is not necesarily disrespectful, just as receiving on the tongue is not necessarily respectful.In the U.S. and other countries the President’ Head of State warrants a salute…that is an external symbol of the respect for the office. But this is FAR, FAR MORE !
Amen! A voice of reason! I can’t help but question those faithful and traditional Catholics who seem to be judgmental and condemning of the people around them. No one but God knows what is going on inside of a person, inside of their heart and soul.Much of this discussion reminds me of yesterday’s Gospel reading (The man born blind, John 9). The pharisee’s got so caught up in the fact that our Lord had restored this man’s sight on a Sabbath that they forgot to give praise for his sight being restored.
Likewise it appears to me that some people in this forum are more concerned with posture than with the reality of Christ’s presence in the Holy Eucharist. I am much more concerned with people who receive in a state of mortal sin than those who reverently recieve in the hand. Of course I have no way of knowing who these people are, but I am sure there are more than a few.
I choose to receive on the tongue, as to me this is an outward sign of humility, as is the bow that I give prior to receiving. This does not mean that I should pridefully make assumptions about someone else’s piety if they choose to receive in the hand, as I did for many years.
If we want to restore a reverence for the Eucharist, than I believe that adoration is the key. No one who regularly spends time in Eucharistic adoration will take a lacadazical (sp?) approach to receiving our Lord.
We need to not be so caught up in the externals that we forget the internal reality that Christ has called all of us into HIS Church, and to receive HIS Body and Blood. Even if there are people there who we believe are receiving in an irreverant manner, we should be grateful that they are there at all and pray that their reception of the Eucharist will bring them grace and internal conversion.
Of course, that may be your way of showing reverence. That is perfectly appropriate and your right. What we cannot infer is that those who receive in the hand are showing less reverence.The reason for the “posture” is because of realizing Jesus’ Presence. It is NOT a “showy” game of fake reverence. It is genuine.
Before Communion-in-the-hand became commonplace Catholics were apprised of the Real Presence and “unconsecrated hands” must never handle the Eucharist…only a priest.Of course, that may be your way of showing reverence. That is perfectly appropriate and your right. What we cannot infer is that those who receive in the hand are showing less reverence.
This of course is a practice, but not a doctrine of the church. Practices can change.Before Communion-in-the-hand became commonplace Catholics were apprised of the Real Presence and “unconsecrated hands” must never handle the Eucharist…only a priest.
I receive the host in my hands and I do not treat it like a big mac, nor do many of my compatriots who receive in the hand as well.Today, recipients of the Host in their hands DO NOT have consecrated hands…it is handled just like a Big Mac.
Mother Teresa is part of the Magesterium of the Church? That is her opinion, which she has every right to, but of course, the church did not delegate to her the authority to determine how communion may be received.St. Mother Theresa of Calcutta (remember her?) often said that the most painful thing she experienced was to see the Lord in the Eucharist being received in the hand.
View attachment 2606The reason for the “posture” is because of realizing Jesus’ Presence. It is NOT a “showy” game of fake reverence. It is genuine.
Thank you…this has got to be the most mind-blowing thing I have ever seen concerning the Eucharist.
I must have missed something…did John insinuate or state that St. Mother Teresa’s statement was anything more than opinion? Do you ask rude questions like that of all quotes from saints you read? Very odd.Mother Teresa is part of the Magesterium of the Church? That is her opinion, which she has every right to, but of course, the church did not delegate to her the authority to determine how communion may be received.
Those that don’t rejoice could at least refrain from spouting lies, such as the practice of receiving Communion in the hand is the equivalent of eating a Big Mac.That does not mean that every Catholic (saint or otherwise) has to rejoice in the decision.