Vatican Praises film "Spotlight"

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No. I saw a trailer for this, and remember a line something like “This isn’t just a few priests doing this. They’re everywhere”. It struck me as scaremongering and trying to make people fear priests. I would never want to see a film like that.
 
L’Osservatore Romano ran an editorial today simply titled, “It’s Not An Anti-Catholic Film,” which is actually an even handed assessment of last night’s Best Picture winner. Right from the start, the film is qualified in the following positive light:
[Spotlight is] not anti-Catholic, as has been written, because it manages to voice the shock and profound pain of the faithful confronting the discovery of these horrendous realities.
 
No. I saw a trailer for this, and remember a line something like “This isn’t just a few priests doing this. They’re everywhere”. It struck me as scaremongering and trying to make people fear priests. I would never want to see a film like that.
The trailer for the movie does use that line in a way I suspect could be seen as scaremongering. In the film it was not so. The line in question was when the extent of the scandal is revealed and the investigators (who the movie presents as all Catholics, lapsed Catholics, or former Catholics) are simply floored.

SPOILER

The movie presents the investigation as starting with a single priest and then, quite by accident, it expands to 13 and they’re all shocked. However once they make the connection in the movie between euphemistic language for priests being moved to re-education after cases of abuse in the printed registers, THAT is when that line is uttered. When they realize there were 87 priests in Boston who had been abusing kids, and they were all over the region (ie: everywhere). The line is uttered in their pure shock that it wasn’t just the one case, or even 13 cases as they’d originally thought, but 87 individual priests who’d abused hundreds of kids. And it’s coming from people who in the context of the movie are Catholic, lapsed or former who knew at least one priest and victim personally and Mark Ruffalo’s character in particular expresses his lapsed Catholicism and relation to the church as something he always thought he’d go back to before the investigation.

Now obviously some of it is dramatized for effect, such as the first 5 minutes of the movie. On the whole however it’s presented as 4 people and their boss’ boss Slattery with some relation or another with the Catholic Church uncovering something that ties deeply with their own lives that they’re shocked and disgusted by but feel needs to be revealed despite that shock because it needed to stop. And the system (lawyers, clergy and other lay persons) that had been protecting the church and covering for the degenerates within her also needed to be stopped because it was reprehensible, both the acts and the acts of covering it up by all means possible. And when it comes down to it the Catholic News Service has called it a “Generally Accurate Chronicle” and the Holy See has called it “honest” and “compelling”.

/SPOILER
 
Yes, several months ago. It is one of the best films I’ve ever seen, and the best film about journalism in decades.

I grew up in the Boston area, and, as it turns out, there were two abusive priests in my childhood parish at the same time. Someone needed to bring this issue to light, and I am grateful for the journalists who finally did. My point of view is that those who abused children, and those who covered up the abuse, handed ammunition on a silver platter to those who hate the Church.

This movie handles the horrors of abuse in a very straightforward, evenhanded way. The facts are so horrifying in and of themselves that no embellishment was needed.
 
Yes, I’ve seen the film “Spotlight.” I thought the writer/directors did a great job NOT sensationalizing sexual abuse but clearly communicating the way we lay Catholics have buried our heads in the sand and shut the door on offering genuine compassion and healing for victims of abuse in our own churches and families.

We are all responsible for caring for those who suffer without a voice in our churches. Abuse still happens. I think we will be seeing a lot of Catholics coming out and telling their stories in the future years because of the movie “Spotlight.”

I’m a victim of clerical sexual abuse. I had two known pedophile priests teach me as a child. Their lessons and abuse in the confessional groomed me for further abuse as a young mother trying to practice NFP. As a young mother, I fell into the hands of another predator priest because I did not know HOW to set boundaries on priests who were sexually abusive. I’m also a Catholic Chaplain with a graduate degree in theology. I never talked about my abuse until I was required to share my spiritual journey in order to do my clinical pastoral education certification in the hospital setting. I sure I’m not the only girl, and young mother who has lived too many years quietly hidden in shame and fear. Yet, I still kept to my faith and I still believe in God. I simply saw my priests as earthly gods I needed to appease and obey. Now as a chaplain I know otherwise.

Addition: I’ve never received a penny from the church for the abuse I suffered, nor have I asked for anything. I’ve paid for all my own counseling. I’ve continued to attend mass and give a significant weekly offering. I also have paid the entire cost of my own tuition for my theology degree and my children’s Catholic school tuition. Not all abuse survivors are out for money from the church. Some of us are doing a lot to support the church.
 
Yes, I’ve seen the film “Spotlight.” I thought the writer/directors did a great job NOT sensationalizing sexual abuse but clearly communicating the way we lay Catholics have buried our heads in the sand and shut the door on offering genuine compassion and healing for victims of abuse in our own churches and families.

We are all responsible for caring for those who suffer without a voice in our churches. Abuse still happens. I think we will be seeing a lot of Catholics coming out and telling their stories in the future years because of the movie “Spotlight.”

I’m a victim of clerical sexual abuse. I had two known pedophile priests teach me as a child. Their lessons and abuse in the confessional groomed me for further abuse as a young mother trying to practice NFP. As a young mother, I fell into the hands of another predator priest because I did not know HOW to set boundaries on priests who were sexually abusive. I’m also a Catholic Chaplain with a graduate degree in theology. I never talked about my abuse until I was required to share my spiritual journey in order to do my clinical pastoral education certification in the hospital setting. I sure I’m not the only girl, and young mother who has lived too many years quietly hidden in shame and fear. Yet, I still kept to my faith and I still believe in God. I simply saw my priests as earthly gods I needed to appease and obey. Now as a chaplain I know otherwise.

Addition: I’ve never received a penny from the church for the abuse I suffered, nor have I asked for anything. I’ve paid for all my own counseling. I’ve continued to attend mass and give a significant weekly offering. I also have paid the entire cost of my own tuition for my theology degree and my children’s Catholic school tuition. Not all abuse survivors are out for money from the church. Some of us are doing a lot to support the church.
God bless you, chaplainmom. And thank you for sharing this with us. One thing I learned from your testimony is that we need to make it clear that priests are people - fallible, sinning people. I am worried for cultures where priests are put on a pedestal and ‘can do no wrong’. There is such a thing as a healthy respect for the priesthood, and we should always give each other the benefit of the doubt in charity, but there is nothing wrong with questioning anyone’s (priests, brothers, nuns, etc.) actions or motives.

I know some people can get easily hurt or offended, but as I prepare for the priesthood, I think I’d much rather someone speak up and let me know if there was a question to my motives. Even if they are off-base, unfounded, etc.
 
The Vatican said the wisest thing…think about it.

As far as my interest in the film, the Boston incident is quite old now and I really have no need or desire to open up a very raw wound in myself. I see nothing at all to be gained except to be hurt all over again.

Because this movie has been such a hit, it is quite likely this will lead to a sequal or another one quite like it.

These people never go after any other organization because we are the most convenient and open. Dragging this out again and again just opens up old wounds over and over, and it isn’t just the real victims wounds, for we are all victims.

And frankly I don’t care about all the good intentions cited, it will still do a lot more harm. And just to prove a point … has anyone ever forgotten it? And how does it make you feel? And if it makes you feel that way, then how will it make non-catholics feel?

I have a relative who left the church for this very reason. Seeing this movie will just make them more determined than ever. Thank you Hollywood.
 
I just watched it, and thought it was very well done.

As someone in the Counseling field I do think, as someone said upthread, that it brings to light that just because someone is a priest does not make them actually God, nor does that guarantee they will behave themselves. Children should know they are indeed human, and that being a priest does not give them power over them or special privilege to be alone with them or act inappropriately. It’s not about fearing them, but rather not painting them as perfect.

The movie does a good job being informative, and I do think it helps those involved in the church realize that it is everyone’s job to protect the most innocent amongst the congregations. And that goes to all populations, not just Catholics. School Teachers, Pastors, Psychologists, Counselors, anyone in a position of authority over kids.
 
The Vatican said the wisest thing…think about it.

As far as my interest in the film, the Boston incident is quite old now and I really have no need or desire to open up a very raw wound in myself. I see nothing at all to be gained except to be hurt all over again.

Because this movie has been such a hit, it is quite likely this will lead to a sequal or another one quite like it.

These people never go after any other organization because we are the most convenient and open. Dragging this out again and again just opens up old wounds over and over, and it isn’t just the real victims wounds, for we are all victims.

And frankly I don’t care about all the good intentions cited, it will still do a lot more harm. And just to prove a point … has anyone ever forgotten it? And how does it make you feel? And if it makes you feel that way, then how will it make non-catholics feel?

I have a relative who left the church for this very reason. Seeing this movie will just make them more determined than ever. Thank you Hollywood.
I have not seen the film. I am not sure I want to because it might open up an old wound for me, as well, however sometimes opening up an old wound can help remove scar tissue so to speak. I was molested by a priest, but it wasn’t until I wanted to be a CCD teacher’s aide and went through the training about how to spot a sex offender and report it that I truly understood how guiltless I was. I cried through the entire training sessions, because it could have been the priest that molested me that they were talking about. It talked about all the tricks the perverts use. I didn’t even realize that deep inside me, I somehow blamed myself for what happened to me. He always told me it was the way I smiled that made him do what he did to me. I stopped smiling for years. The training said that the perverts try to make the victim feel complicit in their abuse. I went back and looked at pictures of myself. My smile was very sweet and innocent. Although the training was extremely painful, it helped me.
I have had people say to me that they can’t understand how I could go to a church that encouraged and hid sex offenders. I tell them that the church is an institution just like the public school is an institution. Would you say how can you send your child to school because every year there are teachers who are exposed as child molesters? Would you say schools are a terrible institution because child molesters work there?

I think that anyone who leaves the church because there are child molesters who are priests, janitors, etc. is looking for an excuse to leave the church. It’s like saying that a person shouldn’t be a football fan because football is notorious for having drug using, wife beating, dog baiting athletes.

There have been some really bad players in the church, Cardinal Bernard Law being the worst. When I answered the phone at the rectory of the priest who was a child molester, then Bishop Law wanted to know how old I was, how often I was at the rectory, how I came to be at the rectory, who else was at the rectory, etc. If he didn’t suspect the priest was a molesting me, I don’t think he would have asked all those questions. Later, another girl’s parents were going to file charges against that priest, the girl told me that he had molested young girls in other towns where he had been a priest. Years later, after all Boston stuff, I called to tell the diocese where the molesting had happened to me and told them about what had happen to me and that Law had probably done the same thing there that he had done in Boston. They took down the information, but they told me there were no records of any priests being child molesters in the diocese at that time. I personally view Bernard Law as being complicit with child molesters.

Bernard Law is not the Church. The Church never taught the clergy that it was okay to molest children, just like schools don’t teach it is okay to molest children. The Church never taught that it was okay to hide chid molesters. I think that, other than Bernard Law, which is a situation I know about personally, the Church’s biggest mistake was naivete and ignorance. I think that the Church, as a whole, was slow to believe that evil could hide itself under the guise of goodness, and it was completely ignorant about how to handle the situation it was faced with.

If this movie truly shows the pain and betrayal the average layman felt when it was discovered that people they trusted were evil, then maybe this movie can help people understand why Catholics love God and follow the Church’s teachings.

And here’s a thought, everyone that volunteers and comes in contact with children at Church **must **take a training class on how to spot and report perverts. This is not a requirement for public school teachers. There are child safety seminars that are held on teacher inservice days, but the teachers I know say they can choose which seminars they want to attend.
 
Here is another thought that just occurred to me. The priest who molested me is dead. I pray for his soul and have offered up masses for him. I read somewhere that the way you know you have forgiven someone is when you pray for them. I don’t pray for Bernard Law. This is something I should probably start doing.
 
Here is another thought that just occurred to me. The priest who molested me is dead. I pray for his soul and have offered up masses for him. I read somewhere that the way you know you have forgiven someone is when you pray for them. I don’t pray for Bernard Law. This is something I should probably start doing.
I am so sorry to hear of your painful experience. God love you for your Christ like love for those who hurt you. The measure of your forgiveness by Christ someday as you stand before him, will certainly be great, for you are truely a compassionate person.
 
I won’t go because I find nothing in such a film that would be either entertaining or educational. It has been a long time since any film that won best film has been of interest to me. LOTR: Return of the King was the last one. I do not even watch the Oscars any longer. The movie industry thinks more of themselves than I think of them.

Something like the People’s Choice is of more interest to me.
 
Originally Posted by DaddyGirl
Sorry if the film makes you feel discomfort,
but if someone–your relative, for example–felt strongly enough about this situation to change their entire belief system and life and leave the church, a Hollywood movie isn’t going to make a difference either way.
Thank you for your understanding.

But nonetheless, the bide of Christ is the one who was molested, and depicting her again and again in a scandalist way cannot be good.

We are taught not to maul over and gossip about the sins of others, whether the sins be true or false. Yet this is being done to Christ’s very own bride.

Hollywood is interested in trophies and money. Their trophy this time was the bride of Christ.
 
Thank you for your understanding.

**But nonetheless, the bide of Christ is the one who was molested, and depicting her again and again in a scandalist way cannot be good. **

We are taught not to maul over and gossip about the sins of others, whether the sins be true or false. Yet this is being done to Christ’s very own bride.

Hollywood is interested in trophies and money. Their trophy this time was the bride of Christ.
The RCC was hurt by this for sure, but it wasn’t the entity who was molested. The victims were the ones molested and to suggest otherwise is an attempt IMO to lessen the actual harm done to them. The RCC was just disrespected in the extreme by her clergy and lay leaders who chose to sweep the molestation under the rug for half a century but she was not molested.
 
Thank you for your understanding.

But nonetheless, the bide of Christ is the one who was molested, and depicting her again and again in a scandalist way cannot be good.

We are taught not to maul over and gossip about the sins of others, whether the sins be true or false. Yet this is being done to Christ’s very own bride.

Hollywood is interested in trophies and money. Their trophy this time was the bride of Christ.
Hollywood is full of hypocrites, immersed in self adulation and interested in money making films. Remember how it applauded director Roman Polanski, the child molester who fled and could not personally accept his Academy award.
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I’m a victim of clerical sexual abuse. I had two known pedophile priests teach me as a child. Their lessons and abuse in the confessional groomed me for further abuse as a young mother trying to practice NFP. As a young mother, I fell into the hands of another predator priest because I did not know HOW to set boundaries on priests who were sexually abusive.
Sympathy for your experiences. You perhaps are in a good position to offer a valuable incite into questions i have.

Do you have any idea why the priests you have talked about were not faithful to the church and her teachings?

Why from the 1960’s for a 20 year period did some priests believe this was ok, and some superiors believed it was not an offence that required immediate banishment?

Do you still see such rebellion against the church and her teachings today?
 
Sympathy for your experiences. You perhaps are in a good position to offer a valuable incite into questions i have.

Do you have any idea why the priests you have talked about were not faithful to the church and her teachings?

Why from the 1960’s for a 20 year period did some priests believe this was ok, and some superiors believed it was not an offence that required immediate banishment?

Do you still see such rebellion against the church and her teachings today?
We have to stop looking at is as a 60s problem. It’s been there forever. It was happening in the 30s , the 40s, the 50s and in centuries past. Part of the problem is that priests were put on pedestals and treated as Gods. I grew up where the motto was “Say nothing good about a priest in fear of accidentally saying something bad.” In other words, the priest as a topic of conversation was verboten. They could do no wrong.

Now I’ve had fine priests in my life but I’ve also had one who was an abuser. Some of my friends were his victims and we kids knew it, even if our parents didn’t. In recent years I’ve been called, in my capacity as parish secretary and to help maintain its confidentiality, to read certain portions of the Register of Baptism into the record at the trial of another previously convicted abuser. The information related strictly to dates to prove he was in fact in the parish at the time the crimes he was accused of had been committed. In this case he was acquitted.
 
Thank you for your understanding.

But nonetheless, the bide of Christ is the one who was molested, and depicting her again and again in a scandalist way cannot be good.

We are taught not to maul over and gossip about the sins of others, whether the sins be true or false. Yet this is being done to Christ’s very own bride.

Hollywood is interested in trophies and money. Their trophy this time was the bride of Christ.
To me, this is akin to saying we shouldn’t make films about the Holocaust because it makes Germans feel bad. I think that, instead, it reminds us to ensure this never happens again.

I know Hollywood has its own motives, but the Church hierarchy is responsible for making itself into a trophy.
 
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