Vatican sends bishop to investigate Cleveland Diocese

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What is most unusual about this is that the current bishop requested the investigation.
A retired bishop has been asked by the Vatican to look into questions about the leadership of Cleveland Bishop Richard Lennon.
The Most Rev. John M. Smith, 76, bishop emeritus of Trenton, New Jersey, will arrive in Cleveland this week at the request of the Vatican.
Bishop Lennon said he requested this type of investigation when questions about his leadership of the Diocese persisted.
wkyc.com/news/article/197276/45/Vatican-sends-bishop-to-investigate-Cleveland-Diocese

Bishop Lennon, in his press release announcing the investigation, indicates that he expects to have his leadership validated.

Here is the (short) press release:
CLEVELAND – July 11, 2011 – Acting on the request of Most Rev. Richard G. Lennon, The Holy See has asked Most Rev. John M. Smith, Bishop Emeritus of the Diocese of Trenton (N.J.), to visit the Diocese of Cleveland.
Bishop Lennon said, “While I am confident that I am faithfully handling the responsibilities entrusted to me, I personally made this request earlier this year because a number of persons have written to Rome expressing their concerns about my leadership of the Diocese. This visit will be an opportunity to gather extensive information on all aspects of the activities of the Diocese and will allow for an objective assessment of my leadership. I ask for prayers that this process will support the vibrancy and vitality of our Diocese going forward.”
Bishop Smith will be in Cleveland this week. Following the conclusion of his visit, Bishop Smith will submit a report to The Holy See; no timetable has been announced.
dioceseofcleveland.org/news/2011/Visit_Statement_2011-07-11.pdf
 
What is most unusual about this is that the current bishop requested the investigation.

wkyc.com/news/article/197276/45/Vatican-sends-bishop-to-investigate-Cleveland-Diocese

Bishop Lennon, in his press release announcing the investigation, indicates that he expects to have his leadership validated.

Here is the (short) press release:

dioceseofcleveland.org/news/2011/Visit_Statement_2011-07-11.pdf
Don’t know what the complaints are. I don’t like language such as “vibrancy and vitality”. what does this means?
 
There must be a lot more to this story. It’s hard to discern what’s going on anymore because of so much disobedience coming from every quarter - the faithful are disobedient to the priests - the priests to the bishops - the bishops to the Holy See. I never thought I’d hear of the unbelievable things we’re experiencing in this day.
 
Don’t know what the complaints are?
I think a lot of it has to do with the closing of 50 parishes during a 11 month period. Bishop Lennon became unpopular enough that he had to travel with armed guards.
blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/06/bishop_richard_lennons_church.html

As I recall from past threads here, Bishop Lennon was assigned to Cleveland with the understanding that he needed to close many parishes, since a high number of them were financially in the red. However, in at least one case a parish and its priest rebelled and established their own church against the bishop’s public instructions not to do so.

Bishop Lennon is under tremendous stress, and has been for some time. He could probably benefit from some prayers.
 
Yes Bishop Lennon wasn’t popular as the interrim administrator of the Archdiocese of Boston.

He closed many parishes there as well. I think it’s kind of unfair that Rome seems to be using him as the “financial hammer” of dioceses’ in the US. It must cause an incredible ammount of stress for him.

I will say that the fact he isn’t exactly a “warm and fuzzy type” doesn’t tend to help his reputation.
 
It’s because of the closing of parishes in the city. In his defense, no one lives in the city of Cleveland anymore. Everyone ran away to the suburbs. The Jewish community has the same phenomenon. I saw this map that shows where synegogues have been built in Cleveland, starting in 1900. They too started in the central of the city, but spread outward away from the city proper.

Frankly, if a person wants an inner city parish to stay opened, he’s more than welcome to move down into the city of Cleveland, buy a house there, and send his kids to the Cleveland Municipal School District, where more than 60% of the students don’t graduate from high school.
 
Bishop Lennon is under tremendous stress, and has been for some time. He could probably benefit from some prayers.
Agreed, and I will duly pray for this bishop of my diocese.

He visited my parish once and I spoke to him very briefly after Mass … in Latin. He replied in Latin. That was cool.

:highprayer:
 
I think it’s kind of unfair that Rome seems to be using him as the “financial hammer” of dioceses’ in the US. It must cause an incredible ammount of stress for him.
That is unfortunate. Sometimes the reward for doing a good job in a difficult and uncomfortable situation is that you are the one people decide to continue to place in those situations. Kind of the ol’ “no good deed goes unpunished” situation…
I will say that the fact he isn’t exactly a “warm and fuzzy type” doesn’t tend to help his reputation.
Those are typically the people that get put into these types of tough spots. He is probably plenty warm and fuzzy once you get to know him but not so much on the outside.

He definitely needs our prayers.

Peace,
 
Frankly, if a person wants an inner city parish to stay opened, he’s more than welcome to move down into the city of Cleveland, buy a house there, and send his kids to the Cleveland Municipal School District, where more than 60% of the students don’t graduate from high school.
So the majority of the people that are seeing their parish close are probably old retired people? That doesn’t surprise me. In our own parish you would not believe the resistance met when it was decided to build a new church. Many of the oldest parishioners complained that if more room was needed these “young people” with families should go somewhere else. Apparently that’s what happened in Cleveland and it didn’t work out to well.
 
Bishop Lennon not only faced financial problems but also a severe shortage of priests. The number of new vocations was not close to filling the number of retirements that were past due. This shortage existed long before he ever appeared on the scene.
 
Yes Bishop Lennon wasn’t popular as the interrim administrator of the Archdiocese of Boston.
LOL, indeed.
He closed many parishes there as well. I think it’s kind of unfair that Rome seems to be using him as the “financial hammer” of dioceses’ in the US. It must cause an incredible ammount of stress for him.
He was the auxiliary in Boston when parishes were closed so ultimately the heat fell on O’Malley.
I will say that the fact he isn’t exactly a “warm and fuzzy type” doesn’t tend to help his reputation.
That might even be an understatement.
 
Thanks Father,

God Bless! If you are in the Archdiocese know that I miss living there. Boston is a beautiful city. I used to live in the North End and attented St. Leonard of Port Maurice, and often whent to St. Anthony’s Shrine for mass and events.

I like O’Malley enough. He seems pretty caring.

God Bless.
 
Don’t know what the complaints are. I don’t like language such as “vibrancy and vitality”. what does this means?
most of this is about the closing of some parishes and mergers of others, which as happened when he did it in Boston, became the focus of dissent and disobedience in other areas. I am in this diocese at the moment with family and have listened to this discussion and debate all week, PD is strangely silent
 
I followed the cclustering and closing process closely. I was asked to be on a cluster team for Lakewood, Ohio but chose not to. The reasons for some of the closings were non-sensical and clearly a money grab in some cases.

i.e.

Parish A was a small ethnic parish with a million dollar endowment and no past due assessments. it was closed. The diocese got the endowment.

Parish B had no arrearage to its assessments and managed to keep a parish school open due to the strong management of the pastor.

Parish C had an arrearage of almost 3/4 of a million dollars, no school and was less than a 1/2 mile from Parish B. If C closes, the diocese loses any chance to collect those assessments. So Bishop Lennon merges B & C and VIOLATES CANNON LAW by installing the pastor of Parish C as the Pastor of the new parish.

Parish D is the wealthiest and most vibrant parish in the suburb. It wasn’t going anywhere.

Parish E was a small moribund parish with almost a 1/2 million dollar arrearage to its assessments, no pastor, only an administrator.

Parish F was the largest of the 6 parishes with the most outreach/service organizations doing the good work not only in Lakewood, but also the west side of Cleveland. parish F also had a huge arrearage as well as a pending roof repair of close toa million dollars but with the pledges to cover the costs.

That was the situation. Also Parishes D, E & F had merged their schools a couple of years previous. They were pressuring B to join them. The Pastor refused saying that he ministered to a poorer flock than the other churches and his people could not afford to send their kids to a school that was 30% more expensive.

Finally, Parishes B & F were beautiful stone Basilica buildings. C & E will never win any
architectural awards. The conventional wisdom was that AC&E would close. It made sense geographically, architecturally, and on the smallest hardship impact on the fewest people.

Is that what His Eminence did?a

Nope. Due to politics, much of it between the existing parishes, he took a route that lacked even a modicum of common sense.

As I mentioned, he closed A. Merged B & C and violated cannon law on the appointment of the pastor, who immediately closed the school. and closed F, leaving 1/2 of the city of Lakewood without a church and two of the three churches within 7 blocks of each other (D & E).

Although never a member of F, I drive past it every day as it sits on a busy street corner. That beautiful building interestingly enough still has its sign up (unlike all the other closed churches in the diocese). If those buildings were built by the sweat and tears of immigrants 100 years ago, as a testament to the greatness of Christ, how we can let them be torn down saddens me.

The Parishoners of F have appealed to Rome. They are still waiting to hear over a year later.
 
I followed the cclustering and closing process closely. I was asked to be on a cluster team for Lakewood, Ohio but chose not to. The reasons for some of the closings were non-sensical and clearly a money grab in some cases.
Like it or not money is a legitimate concern for any bishop. Others include the availability of priests and the vibrancy of the parish. Here in Fort Wayne-South Bend only a few parishes were closed. Some of the factors considered in addition to the parish finances were the number of weddings and baptisms in each parish. A parish that does not have weddings and baptisms is dying. Some of the parishes closed had very old buildings that would soon need major renovations to meet building and safety codes. I have never heard of a parish community that welcomed the closing of their parish, but sometimes it is the right thing to do and that can only be seen from a higher level.

My brother serves on the diocesan school board in another fairly large diocese. He has had to recommend school closings where the parish could not support even a very small school. One school was closed after test scores were found to be even lower than the neighboring public school. No official action was required by by the board. Once the scores were made public, only 4 parents attempted to register their children for next year. It was the first time in the 63 year history of the diocese that any of their schools scored lower than the public school. The politics in that diocese have also been terrible. Some parents at a high school recommended for closing started a rumor that the diocese intended to sell the property for a WalMart store.
 
Like it or not money is a legitimate concern for any bishop. Others include the availability of priests and the vibrancy of the parish. Here in Fort Wayne-South Bend only a few parishes were closed. Some of the factors considered in addition to the parish finances were the number of weddings and baptisms in each parish. A parish that does not have weddings and baptisms is dying. Some of the parishes closed had very old buildings that would soon need major renovations to meet building and safety codes. I have never heard of a parish community that welcomed the closing of their parish, but sometimes it is the right thing to do and that can only be seen from a higher level.

My brother serves on the diocesan school board in another fairly large diocese. He has had to recommend school closings where the parish could not support even a very small school. One school was closed after test scores were found to be even lower than the neighboring public school. No official action was required by by the board. Once the scores were made public, only 4 parents attempted to register their children for next year. It was the first time in the 63 year history of the diocese that any of their schools scored lower than the public school. The politics in that diocese have also been terrible. Some parents at a high school recommended for closing started a rumor that the diocese intended to sell the property for a WalMart store.
With all due respect, none of your scenarios really had any bearing in this situation. I don’t doubt that money plays a role. But being disengenuous about it is hardly the act of an honorable man. Closing one parish only because of a million dollar roof repair that has the pledges to cover it, while allowing another to stay open in a poorer neighborhood that still isn’t sure its going to be able to pay for it smacks of something, but its not consistency.

The pastor and pastoral council of F were hard to work with, and some observers felt that His Emminence was heavy handed intentionally. Just sayin.
 
I have absolutely no inside knowledge about the diocese in question. However, being that I am active in one parish in which there has been “closure talk” recently, let me just say that sometimes closures are not necessary and are knee-jerk reactions to dwindling attendance which in turn is actually the result of very poor local administrative decisions.

For example, at least one poster here mentioned affiliated schools. In our case, what has been happening is unbelievably bad leadership on the part of the principal of that school. Unlike many other Catholic schools which require regular attendance at Sunday Mass and/or regular minimum contributions to the church (in addition to whatever contributions are required to the school, as a condition of school registration), this principal has been letting the families be completely irresponsible in this regard. The families are not impoverished: far from it. Rather, they live in tony suburbs 10-20 miles away, and drive their children in, in their SUV’s. (Major bad decision #1, a decision which has not been monitored by the pastor. We had to bring it to his attention, and to suggest a 180-degree on the policy.)

Second, Mass attendance dwindled after the parish reduced its Masses (eliminating the Saturday vigil), locked the Church for most of the time, etc. Parishioners were major turned off, began to attend other parishes nearby which were open, and began donating (instead) to those parishes. That in turn (not surprisingly) reduced the parish coffers even more, resulting in “closure talk” and “What will be do? What will be do?”

Third, now and then a pastor is out of touch with what Catholics currently hunger for and what those Catholics have shown they respond to. He was shocked to learn that parishionners want more frequent confession opportunities, Mass occasions, and open chapels – in, at the very least, some kind of rotating schedule among a cluster of several cooperating nearby parishes whereby the faithful would know where to go on any day of the week for sacraments and private prayer.

The pastors – the one leaving and the one coming – never bothered to avail themselves of the only-too-willing and cooperative parishioners, who were eager to provide free services (saving parish outlay) in addition to their weekly cash donations. (Manual labor, administrative help, domestic help – all gratis.) This was certainly an example of Not Asking (so You Will Not Receive). Once again, it became up to the parishioners, at the brink of their parish closing (which still might) to offer this as an additional, if minor, avenue of financial rescue.

So, sometimes lay people have rational and legitimate reasons for reacting angrily, when such situations could have been avoided by not burying heads in sand, so to speak, and by being forward-looking, proactive before a community faces A Point of No Return. It’s just difficult for me to believe that somewhere, in every diocese/archdiocese, there is not at least one person – lay or clergy – who can offer ideas, support, leadership to an overwhelmed pastor who is perhaps too close to the situation to envision a solution, and/or who lacks leadership skills himself. What he does not lack is a mouth and a voice.

This only speaks to any situation in which a community might be so upset that they would be inclined to “dig their heels in” out of frustration with people who have a history of being non-responsive. (And because some people assume that all parish closures are unavoidable. Not even close.)
 
Not to get off topic Elizabeth, but that situation sounds like a Pastor who didn’t consult/trust/use his Pastoral Council properly. Perhaps there were legitimate reasons why, but if the pastor was as out of touch as you say, I doubt he helped the situation.
 
Don’t know what the complaints are. I don’t like language such as “vibrancy and vitality”. what does this means?
It means his excellency might be in trouble if the investigation gives orthodox Catholics in the diocese an equitable hearing! : )

Boy, I wish they had sent such an investigator to the Albany diocese about ten years ago! Meanwhile, we are counting the days and minutes here until Bishop Hubbard’s 75th!! (Two years, three months . . . and STILL counting . . . )
 
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