"Vatican to Issue Stamp Featuring Martin Luther"

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This isn’t any different from commemorative stamps issued in any other state around the world. Martin Luther - despite ultimately drawing millions of people away from the Church, also forced it to undergo a period of introspection that left it far stronger (not to say far holier) than it was, prior to him. Luther has ultimately had a far greater positive impact (though in other ways of course a very negative one) on the Church and on humankind, than plenty of St. Peter’s successors.

It seems to me ridiculous that some people believe we can’t differentiate recognising a person’s contribution, without subscribing to everything they did.

Or in other words: the Holy Father features on a number of currently-issued Vatican City stamps. Now it seems to be that this forum would be a lot quieter if people were unable to differentiate between his recognising his role and contribution, and liking and subscribing to everything he says and does…

Put Luther on a stamp.
 
It’s amazing how fast some people are to criticize the Vatican, even over unconfirmed rumors. Reminds me of the behavior of a certain 16th Century monk in Wittenberg …
 
fin said:
Poor King Henry. If he lived in our time, he could divorce and remarry wihout committing a mortal sin. After all, AL says it is okay. Love wins! :rolleyes:
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It says no such thing.

Jim
 
vaticanstate.va/content/vaticanstate/en/servizi/ufficio-filatelico-e-numismatico/programma-emissioni1.html
STAMPS 01. Pontificate of Pope Francis MMXVII
02. Holy Christmas (Joint issue with the Principality of Monaco)
03. Easter of Resurrection
04. The Apostolic Journeys of Pope Francis- Year 2016
05. Europe 2017: “Castles”
06. 450th Anniversary of the birth of Saint Frances of Sales
07. 350th Anniversary of the death of Pope Alexander VII and Francesco Borromini
08. 90th Birthday of Pope Benedict XVI
09. 1950° Anniversary of the Martyrdom of Saint Peter and Saint Paul
10. Centenary of the Fatima apparitions
11. Centenary of the birth of Cardinal Domenico Bartolucci, director of the Pontifical Musical Chapel
12. 50th Anniversary of the death of Don Lorenzo Milani
13. 50th Anniversary of the Encyclical Letter “Populorum Progressio” by Pope Paul VI
14. Centenary of the death of Saint Francesca Saverio Cabrini, patroness of migrants
15. 200th Anniversary of the Foundation of the Institute of the Marist teaching Brothers
16. 5th Centenary of the Protestant Reformation
17. 600th Anniversary of the Diocese of Samogitia (Joint issue with Lithuania)
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This must be the one referenced. I have no idea what it looks like.
 
TMC said:
The Church has reconsidered Luther and is coming to a new understanding. Pope John Paul opened and increased communication and exchange with Lutherans, and praised Luther’s important contributions to theology. Pope Benedict quoted Luther often and said that Luther was right about many things, including justification. Pope Francis has continued that trend. I think that it is good and important to recognize Luther’s contributions along with his problems, and to move toward unifying the Church.
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Cleaning up Luther will take a lot more than a few kind words.
But sadly:
The Lutherans we’re dialoging with are the most liberal with dwindling in numbers, as the more vibrant conservative ones will have nothing to do with either of use.
It’s like ignoring the Anglo Catholics to dialog with the evangelical Anglicans
We really have little in common
Our German Bishops seem to have a huge influence, that’s we’ll beyond their meager numbers and influence on their own people.
I think there is some kind of vision of one German Church /Nordic Church and the glory of the Tutonic Knights
Rebirth may come but It won’t be because of platitudes and ignoring the faith.
In fact this German/Americanism will be the total demise of Christainity.
 
Once against LSN shows that the only thing true in its name is that it is a site. It has departed the issue of life to pursue other targets, with a history of anti-catholicism. It lacks any sense of journalism, reporting without references, using exaggeration and rhetoric to keep cutting at the body of Christ.

You people should really pay more attention to what the Church says and not what the enemy says. There is never a shortage of people want to serve the accuser of the brethren. If this last election cycle taught us nothing is that there is a lot of internet news is just back fence gossip.
 
pnewton said:
Once against LSN shows that the only thing true in its name is that it is a site. It has departed the issue of life to pursue other targets, with a history of anti-catholicism. It lacks any sense of journalism, reporting without references, using exaggeration and rhetoric to keep cutting at the body of Christ.

You people should really pay more attention to what the Church says and not what the enemy says. There is never a shortage of people want to serve the accuser of the brethren. If this last election cycle taught us nothing is that there is a lot of internet news is just back fence gossip.
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Regardless of whether or not the article is fake, there will be an increased harmony amongst all Christians in time.
 
Murmurs said:
This isn’t any different from commemorative stamps issued in any other state around the world. Martin Luther - despite ultimately drawing millions of people away from the Church, also forced it to undergo a period of introspection that left it far stronger (not to say far holier) than it was, prior to him. Luther has ultimately had a far greater positive impact (though in other ways of course a very negative one) on the Church and on humankind, than plenty of St. Peter’s successors.

It seems to me ridiculous that some people believe we can’t differentiate recognising a person’s contribution, without subscribing to everything they did.

Or in other words: the Holy Father features on a number of currently-issued Vatican City stamps. Now it seems to be that this forum would be a lot quieter if people were unable to differentiate between his recognising his role and contribution, and liking and subscribing to everything he says and does…

Put Luther on a stamp.
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Luther did no such thing. By your argument every leader of a dissenting movement led against the Church deserves to be praised.

If not for the fall of Adam no need for a savior. Oh happy fall of Adam!

If not for Judas, Jesus would not have died for our sins. Thank you Judas!

If not for Arius we wouldn’t have the Nicene Creed. Thank you Arius!

If something good came out of these terrible times were hundreds of Catholics were killed, Churches burnt down, and wars began,** it’s solely due to the grace of God.

**
 
gus said:
Cleaning up Luther will take a lot more than a few kind words.
But sadly:
The Lutherans we’re dialoging with are the most liberal with dwindling in numbers, as the more vibrant conservative ones will have nothing to do with either of use.
It’s like ignoring the Anglo Catholics to dialog with the evangelical Anglicans
We really have little in common
Our German Bishops seem to have a huge influence, that’s we’ll beyond their meager numbers and influence on their own people.
I think there is some kind of vision of one German Church /Nordic Church and the glory of the Tutonic Knights
Rebirth may come but It won’t be because of platitudes and ignoring the faith.
In fact this German/Americanism will be the total demise of Christainity.
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I would think the Lutherans we are dialoguing with are the more conservative-not liberal. why would liberal Lutherans who want female priests and pastors, same sex marriage, pro-choice want to be part of the Catholic church or dialogue with the Catholic church?
 
Martin Luther, who accepted most Marian doctrines, would find himself in sharp conflict with Lutherans of today.

Still, as Karl Keating noted in a recent article: “Many people—mostly Protestants, of course, but also not a few Catholics—are talking of “celebrating” the Protestant Reformation. I am not one of them, because there is nothing to celebrate…”
 
As the OP, I’m not sure whether LifeSitenews is a dependable source. The Washington Times also has an article on this, listing LSN as one of two sources.
I follow Patrick Madrid on Twitter and only found out about this because of his tweet. It’s distressing to me to think it might be true.
I wonder if this can be verified in some way?
 
7_Sorrows said:
I would think the Lutherans we are dialoguing with are the more conservative-not liberal. why would liberal Lutherans who want female priests and pastors, same sex marriage, pro-choice want to be part of the Catholic church or dialogue with the Catholic church?
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In my general experience amongst my religious friends, conservatives are more likely to acknowledge that differences matter and have practical implications, and liberals tend more to syncretism. I have friends who want to insist on the “catholic” name, love traditions, but not the teachings of course. They’re Protestant. They said it’s a beautiful thing to see Baptists and Catholics and Reformed each have their own service on mission territory at the same time. Sometimes it seems they desire the externals, but not the binding content.
 
7_Sorrows said:
I would think the Lutherans we are dialoguing with are the more conservative-not liberal. why would liberal Lutherans who want female priests and pastors, same sex marriage, pro-choice want to be part of the Catholic church or dialogue with the Catholic church?
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They’re the most liberal ones. They accept everything you’d listed. I think they are approaching the Catholic Church because they’re at verge of extinction. It’s very hard in a secular world to take the Bible as the only authority about Christianity.
 
SpeakInSilence said:
Luther did no such thing. By your argument every leader of a dissenting movement led against the Church deserves to be praised.

If not for the fall of Adam no need for a savior. Oh happy fall of Adam!

If not for Judas, Jesus would not have died for our sins. Thank you Judas!

If not for Arius we wouldn’t have the Nicene Creed. Thank you Arius!

If something good came out of these terrible times were hundreds of Catholics were killed, Churches burnt down, and wars began,** it’s solely due to the grace of God.

**
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While I don’t want to lead the topic astray, it’s always been my understanding that God often works through people. And whether or not He does, it is often in mysterious ways.

As I said, Luther’s inheritance to the Church is mixed. He was responsible for a lot of good, (possibly indirectly, although it’s worth pointing out he didn’t from the first seek to split Christendom either).

One needn’t be silly about Adam and Judas - although it is also worth pointing out that there’s an awful lot of mediaeval poetry out there (and when it’s not 11.30pm I’ll try to find some…) which do precisely celebrate the ‘happy fall’, because without it there would have been no need of Christ.

Why must we only put heroes on our stamps? Everything significant, for good or ill, in our histories - in our personal lives, in national life, and in our Church, should be remembered, sometimes. It doesn’t mean anyone is saying that Luther didn’t do wrong. The 500th anniversary of the Reformation is without question a significant date for all of western Christianity, and anywhere in the world which has been touched by it.
 
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