Vegetarianism Scriptutally based?

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pnewton:
in no way denies you the right to a helping of refried beans.
Mmm, well guess what I’m going to have breakfast this morning :yup:
 
If you’re interested, check into Dominion, the most lucid and thoughtful Christian examination of animal rights on the market today.

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LtTony:
There’s this and other verses in Scripture than I run across that indicate (even command) that believers did not or should not eat meat and Jesus was a veggie. What is to be said of the subject, in general?

*“And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.” (Genesis 1:29,30).
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Jim
Allow me to answer you in one fell swoop of the Gospel 😃

Acts 11:6-10 (New American Standard Bible)
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6and when I had fixed my gaze on it and was observing it I saw the four-footed animals of the earth and the wild beasts and the [a](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2011:6-10;&version=49;#fen-NASB-27314a)]crawling creatures and the birds of the air. 

7"I also heard a voice saying to me, 'Get up, Peter; kill and eat.' 

8"But I said, 'By no means, Lord, for nothing unholy or unclean has ever entered my mouth.' 

9"But a voice from heaven answered a second time, '([A](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2011:6-10;&version=49;#cen-NASB-27317A))What God has cleansed, no longer consider unholy.'
This is a very important verse to hunters lol 😃

Vegitarians are of the Devil!!! 😃

"There is room for all of God’s creatures…right next to the mashed pototoes! " --on a billboard somewhere 😃
 
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TheGarg:
Allow me to answer you in one fell swoop of the Gospel 😃

Acts 11:6-10 (New American Standard Bible)

6and when I had fixed my gaze on it and was observing it I saw the four-footed animals of the earth and the wild beasts and the a]crawling creatures and the birds of the air.

7"I also heard a voice saying to me, ‘Get up, Peter; kill and eat.’

8"But I said, ‘By no means, Lord, for nothing unholy or unclean has ever entered my mouth.’

9"But a voice from heaven answered a second time, ‘(A)What God has cleansed, no longer consider unholy.’

This is a very important verse to hunters lol 😃

Vegitarians are of the Devil!!! 😃

"There is room for all of God’s creatures…right next to the mashed pototoes! " --on a billboard somewhere 😃
LOL :eek: I always thought that verse referred to St. Peter’s dream, esp. in reference to the Old and New testament…

Vegetarianism is good and holy 😛 I think all people should be pescavores like Jesus :D. Wohoo, the Catholic diet plan!
 
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silverwings_88:
…I think all people should be pescavores like Jesus :D. Wohoo, the Catholic diet plan!
It is always good to strive to be like Jesus, but to abstract an image of Jesus based on a single scriptural reference can give one a false image to follow. Jesus is indeed explicitly documented as eating fish. I am not aware of explicit documentation that Jesus ate any other sort of meat, but that is not evidence that the only meat Jesus ate was fish. Jesus was also an observant Jew who certainly kept the Passover, which required those participating to eat lamb or kid.
 
Joseph Bilodeau:
It is always good to strive to be like Jesus, but to abstract an image of Jesus based on a single scriptural reference can give one a false image to follow. Jesus is indeed explicitly documented as eating fish. I am not aware of explicit documentation that Jesus ate any other sort of meat, but that is not evidence that the only meat Jesus ate was fish. Jesus was also an observant Jew who certainly kept the Passover, which required those participating to eat lamb or kid.
Oh, I knew that already! 😛 But that was quite rare to eat such fleshy meat on a daily basis and was only eaten during Passover and other feasting days, unlike what we have now…

THUSLY the promotion of the Catholic pescavore diet is total awesomeness and adequate! 😃

(I was primarily joking, so don’t take me seriously, lol)
 
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silverwings_88:
…Vegetarianism is good and holy…
It may be, if done for the purpose of giving glory to God, or if done for peintential reasons, but this is not necessarily the case. If done for reasons of vanity or out of a wrong understanding of the purpose of animals, a vegetarian diet is not necessarily either good (in a moral sense, it may or may not be good from a nutritional standpoint) or holy.

From a penitential standpoint, in my opinion eating fried liver may be a holier act than eating any number of taste-pleasing meatless foods.
 
Joseph Bilodeau:
It may be, if done for the purpose of giving glory to God, or if done for peintential reasons, but this is not necessarily the case. If done for reasons of vanity or out of a wrong understanding of the purpose of animals, a vegetarian diet it not necessarily either good (in a moral sense, it may or may not be good from a nutritional standpoint) or holy.

From a penitential standpoint,in my opinion eating fried liver may be a holier act than eating any number of taste-pleasing meatless foods.
Well, the reason for me to become a vegetarian was strictly for praising God. I was a grave sinner before then, and after confession of relief, it was my penitential to abstain from meat. Now, I still carry it on, since Ascension Sunday, and I feel so much happier towards God because of it.

I guess I need to clarify :confused: My vegetarian diet is good and holy to me, because of my intentions. 😃
 
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mlchance:
If you’re interested, check into Dominion, the most lucid and thoughtful Christian examination of animal rights on the market today.

– Mark L. Chance.
I agree. I hope more people will read this. I’ve felt for a long time now that if people knew where their meat was coming from and how those animals were treated (i.e. factory farms) they would be appalled. What we’ve done is unnatural and unneccessary.
 
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LtTony:
They ate meat but didn’t eat each other??? I don’t want to make this complicated but if they didn’t eat each other what meat did they eat??
Some animals only eat the meat of dead animals. So it’s possible for animals to eat the meat of dead animals and not kill each other.

I don’t think land animals ate each other before the fall. Even if they had sharp teeth, that doesn’t mean they ate each other. Just because something’s capable of killing and eating animal doesn’t mean that it did – today’s human vegeterians prove that it’s possible to be able to eat animals while not eating them.
 
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tuopaolo:
Some animals only eat the meat of dead animals. So it’s possible for animals to eat the meat of dead animals and not kill each other.
Sure. Never thought of that.

But what do you mean today’s vegs prove one can eat meat w/o eating meat? I THINK I know.

Jim
 
I don’t believe vegetarianism is scripturally based. When I choose to eat a meatless meal I am giving up something I prefer. It is also an act of poverty. Omitting red meat simplifies my food.

The prohibition against meat is clearly stipulated in the Rule of St. Benedict (chapters 36:9 and 39:11).

I try to follow the Rules.
 
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contemplative:
I don’t believe vegetarianism is scripturally based. When I choose to eat a meatless meal I am giving up something I prefer. It is also an act of poverty. Omitting red meat simplifies my food.

The prohibition against meat is clearly stipulated in the Rule of St. Benedict (chapters 36:9 and 39:11).

I try to follow the Rules.
I am not familiar with the Rule of St. Ben. I’m Googling it now… ahhhh, a discipline. I get it. Thanks.

Jim
 
Try this online translation.

kansasmonks.org/RuleOfStBenedict.html

CHAPTER XXXIX
Of the Quantity of Food

Making allowance for the infirmities of different persons, we believe that for the daily meal, both at the sixth and the ninth hour, two kinds of cooked food are sufficient at all meals; so that he who perchance cannot eat of one, may make his meal of the other. Let two kinds of cooked food, therefore, be sufficient for all the brethren. And if there be fruit or fresh vegetables, a third may be added. Let a pound of bread be sufficient for the day, whether there be only one meal or both dinner and supper. If they are to eat supper, let a third part of the pound be reserved by the Cellarer and be given at supper.

If, however, the work hath been especially hard, it is left to the discretion and power of the Abbot to add something, if he think fit, barring above all things every excess, that a monk be not overtaken by indigestion. For nothing is so contrary to Christians as excess, as our Lord saith: “See that your hearts be not overcharged with surfeiting” (Lk 21:34).

Let the same quantity of food, however, not be served out to young children but less than to older ones, observing measure in all things.

But let all except the very weak and the sick abstain altogether from eating the flesh of four-footed animals.
 
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LtTony:
Sure. Never thought of that.

But what do you mean today’s vegs prove one can eat meat w/o eating meat? I THINK I know.

Jim
I mean that vegetarians are CAPABLE of eating meat but they don’t eat meat. So that proves that there could be animals that are CAPABLE of eating meat but don’t actually in practice eat meat.
 
originally posted by pnewton
Because man was given specific instruction not to eat animals a certain way after the flood in no way (name removed by moderator)lies anything about conditions before the flood. This type of reasoning is echoed in those who deny the perpetual virginity of Mary based on the word “until.” The logic is false then and now.
I quoted from the Bible - I did not “reason” anything.
Why would God give the animals, birds and fish to man to eat after the flood if they were eating them before hand? That is senseless.
BTW, I an NOT one who denies the perpetual virginity and I resent your implication. :mad:
 
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silverwings_88:
LOL :eek: I always thought that verse referred to St. Peter’s dream, esp. in reference to the Old and New testament…

Vegetarianism is good and holy 😛 I think all people should be pescavores like Jesus :D. Wohoo, the Catholic diet plan!
Vegetarianism is not holy, it makes you sick, weak, and smell bad.

Jesus was not a vegatarian.
 
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TheGarg:
Vegetarianism is not holy, it makes you sick, weak, and smell bad.
One of the famous winners of the Mr Universe title was the legendery Bill Pearl in 1971. He weighed 242lb at a height of 5’ 10" and his arms measured 21".

Other strong vegetarians:

Bill Manetti powerlifting champion

Brendan Brazier ironman triathlete (vegan)

Killer Kowalski Wrestler

Lawrence Phillips Football player(49ers)

Pat Reeves power lifter (vegan)

Robert Parnish center (bulls)

Ruth Heidrich 3 time Ironman (vegan)

Stan Price world record bench press

Steve Holt Bodybuilder.
 
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TheGarg:
Vegetarianism is not holy, it makes you sick, weak, and smell bad.

Jesus was not a vegatarian.
Cuz I don’t know that… rolls eyes Forgive my sarcasm, but I was a little offended by that.

His (Jesus’) main diet was that of a pescavore, however, and did not eat fleshy meat probably until feast days and the Passover.

Nevertheless, I do not think vegetarianism certainly makes anyone sick, weak or smell bad, esp. smelling bad, lol.

(Since when did we have Mr. Universe! O_O)

Don’t you know the story of Daniel and pulse? His men were stronger from eating pulse rather than the king’s royal food. Here it is:

Daniel 1:

**11 And Daniel said to Malasar, whom the prince of the eunuchs had appointed over Daniel, Ananias, Misael, and Azarias: **

**12 Try, I beseech thee, thy servants for ten days, and let pulse be given us to eat, and water to drink: **

***12 “Pulse”… That is, pease, beans, and such like. ***

**13 And look upon our faces, and the faces of the children that eat of the king’s meat: and as thou shalt see, deal with thy servants. **

**14 And when he had heard these words, he tried them for ten days. **

**15 And after ten days their faces appeared fairer and fatter than all the children that ate of the king’s meat. **

16 So Malasar took their portions, and the wine that they should drink: and he gave them pulse.
 
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