Veiling challenge

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I actually think if the priest had told all the women to wear long black skirts for choir – as virtually all symphonies do – the advice would be the same. Wear what is required in that particular parish, or quit.
 
Margaret_Ann said:
Keep veiling. I sang in the choir and wore my veil. No one said anything.
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But this pastor does not want it, and he is the human leader of that particular church and choir. She should go speak with him, not openly defy him. That is very disrespectful.
 
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The pastor could also tell her she is required to receive communion in the hand, an order which carries equally no weight.
 
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No. That’s not the same thing at all. He is not telling her she can’t wear her head covering at Mass —he’s prescribing dress for liturgical ministry. She has a right to the former, not the latter.
 
St. Padre Pio would not hear women’s confessions unless they were at least 8 inches below the knee.
 
Btw, there’s a great booklet called The Chapel Veil published by Requiem Press. It’s short and easy to read. I recommend that you get 2.copies - one for you and one for the pastor. It was written by 2 young ladies.
 
I never knew a woman wearing a veil would cause so much offense and confusion in the house of God. My how far we have fallen.
 
Veiling is not just a personal choice, a fashion taste, or a church tradition; to some women, a veil represents a moral duty. A duty to veil one self in the sanctuary of God where the angels of God are present. It is not just for modesty’s sake, but for out of respect for both the heavenly order and our natural order on earth. It represents the order ordained by God himself, that woman is subject to her husband, and with a veil on her head, this sign of authority over her, signals to the angels to not overstep their bounds, as at one time they did before, for her husband is the head of her, and none else. For some women, to not veil, is to cause offense to God, to his heavenly and earthly order, and to her own position in relation to her husband.
 
I am more than familiar with music and the liturgy. We know our roles very well in the choir and this is not something the pastor should even be thinking of sticking his nose into. To me there is no “music ministry;” these are terms come up with recently to be presented to the laity by overeducated windbags looking for something to do rather than just shutting up and practicing and singing at Mass the the Propers and Ordinary of the Mass. We are not ministers, we are simply people competent in singing the Mass as called for by the Universal Church. We are taking over these bona fide clerical roles, as laity, as the clerics that once did this work are no longer available to do so. Perhaps if everyone were vesting up as perhaps a choir should, things might be different regarding uniformity in veiling, but even then I’m not so sure.

Anyhow, those who take their roles as musicians at Mass seriously enough to think of themselves as ministers are there for the wrong reasons and are if I were to guess getting only pedestrian results. People are there for the Consecrated Eucharist which can only come about through a priest offering the Sacrifice of the Mass, not to look around for uniformity in the millinery choices of the choir. I’d love to see all your reactions should he have required, as part of the ministry, that they all veil!
 
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The Bishop and Priest have the care of the sheep, as pastors. They are not to cause one of them to stumble or be lost. A woman veiling herself in the house of God is breaking no rule, much less causing an offense to the teachings of the Church. For the sake of this woman, and the other women there, who are pursuing a humble act of reverence in the house of God, the Priest should seriously reconsider his demand and think about the effect this will have on these women.
 
Quitting what? Re-read the OP.
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She was very excited about being asked to be the choir director.
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Perhaps the priest’s mind will be changed should she decide not to do it if she can’t veil. I really can’t say what the OP’s wife should do but I’m upset a priest would put her in such a position, and even more so about what the liberals on here who would never veil in a million years have to say about it.
 
Quitting the choir. And sure, she should explain how she feels to the priest and see what he says.

But I’ve worked in a lot of parishes and had to do all kinds of things I didn’t care for, because Father is the pastor. I had two options—do it his way or leave. She has the same choice.

I’m actually surprised that people who would think it’s just dandy for Father to, say, require sleeved blouses or long skirts on a lector who’s a woman, don’t think he has any right to dictate uniformity in the choir.
 
The priest we had who stepped down a month ago didn’t seem to like veiling either.

He told a woman EMHC that she could not veil while distributing the Eucharist.

We have a new priest though that seems to allow her to veil so I guess there is no
uniform rule, it is up to the priest. He also reminded married women they should not wear white veils as it meant they were available.
 
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Again, this is something that until 1983 was actually required in the Code of Canon Law (whether practiced or not) when it became optional to the individual. This isn’t some improvisation; this is an something traditionally associated with Catholicism. I have to say I’ve also never heard of a pastor dictate such particularities to anyone. I guess I’ve been lucky in having pastors only worried about the important things.

Also, you’re still not reading the OP. It seems they’ve only talked of the possibility of her becoming choir director.
 
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