Venezuela on brink of dictatorship, prelate says; prez demands apology

[bones_IV]

That Chavez just doesn’t get it does he? Pray for this man. Lord forgive them, they know not what they do.

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[Isidore_AK]

bones_IV:

That Chavez just doesn’t get it does he? Pray for this man. Lord forgive them, they know not what they do.

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What do you mean? He knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s following in the footsteps of the ‘great’ socialist leaders that he idolizes…

He wants to be the next Castro…

 

[bones_IV]

Isidore_AK:

What do you mean? He knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s following in the footsteps of the ‘great’ socialist leaders that he idolizes…

He wants to be the next Castro…

My point was is that those you follow in the footsteps of socialist leaders fail to understand the error they are committing.

 

[stillsmallvoice]

Hi all!

That clown Chavez, in addition to ruining his country, is also an anti-Semite who hobnobs with other anti-Semites & terrorists (from last Friday’s Wall Street Journal):

The New Tehran-Caracas Axis

By MARY ANASTASIA O’GRADY

January 13, 2006; Page A13

With Iranian nuclear aspirations gaining notice this week, it’s worth directing attention to the growing relationship between Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Venezuela’s President Hugo Chávez. The Reagan administration repulsed Soviet efforts to set up camp in Central America. Iranian designs on Venezuela perhaps deserve similar U.S. attention.

The warmth and moral support between Ahmadinejad and Chávez is very public. The two tyrants are a lot more than just pen pals. Venezuela has made it clear that it backs Iran’s nuclear ambitions and embraces the mullahs’ hateful anti-Semitism. What remains more speculative is just how far along Iran is in putting down roots in Venezuela.

In September, when the International Atomic Energy Agency offered a resolution condemning Iran for its “many failures and breaches of its obligations to comply” with its treaty commitments, Venezuela was the only country that voted “no.” Ahmadinejad congratulated the Venezuelan government, calling the vote “brave and judicious.”

Link: online.wsj.com/article/SB113711576621545533.html

Ugh!

If the rRoman Catholic church in Venezuela can help get rid of this menace, good!

Be well!

ssv

 

[stillsmallvoice]

(cont).

Chávez is notably nonchalant about all this, as if the health of the economy is the last thing on his mind. His foreign affiliations are more important to him. The Iranian news agency MEHR said last year that the two countries have signed contracts valued at more than $1 billion. In sum, Iranians, presiding over an economy that is itself crumbling into disrepair, are going to build Venezuela 10,000 residential units and a batch of manufacturing plants, if MEHR can be believed. Chávez reportedly says these deals – presumably financed with revenues that might be better employed repairing the vital bridge – include the transfer of “technology” from Iran and the importation of Iranian “professionals” to support the efforts.

Details on the Iranian “factories” – beyond a high-profile tractor producer and a widely publicized cement factory – remain sketchy. But what is clear is that the importation of state agents from Hugo-friendly dictatorships hasn’t been a positive experience for Venezuelans. Imported Cubans are now applying their “skills” in intelligence and state security networks to the detriment of Venezuelan liberty. It is doubtful that the growing presence of Iranians in “factories” across Venezuela is about boosting plastic widget output. The U.S. intelligence agencies would do well to make a greater effort to find out exactly what projects the Chávez-Ahmadinejad duo really have in mind. Almost certainly, they are up to no good.

Link: online.wsj.com/article/SB113711576621545533.html

Ugh!

If the rRoman Catholic church in Venezuela can help get rid of this menace, good!

Be well!

ssv

 

[bones_IV]

stillsmallvoice:

Hi all!

That clown Chavez, in addition to ruining his country, is also an anti-Semite who hobnobs with other anti-Semites & terrorists (from last Friday’s Wall Street Journal):

Link: online.wsj.com/article/SB113711576621545533.html

Ugh!

If the rRoman Catholic church in Venezuela can help get rid of this menace, good!

Be well!

ssv

I’m amazed that the main stream media has said nothing about this. The media has remained largely silent about anti-Semitism and yet the Church has been the only one to condemn it. The main stream media is a whore house.

 

[a_cermak]

I hope the Church stays out of any coup attempts. The Church hierarchy is seen as being in league with the aristocracy in many Latin American nations. Chavez polls very well in the slums. Thanks to his deal with Cuba he is providing decent healthcare to the poor for the first time ever. I’m not sure what he’s doing about schooling.

In order to unseat him, the opposition must coopt that support he has among the poor by promising that the systems he has put in place for their betterment and welfare, will continue after he is gone. So far the opposition looks more like a coalition of the “haves” in society. They need to broaden their base of support.

Pax,

Amy

 

[koda]

a_cermak:

I hope the Church stays out of any coup attempts. The Church hierarchy is seen as being in league with the aristocracy in many Latin American nations. Chavez polls very well in the slums. Thanks to his deal with Cuba he is providing decent healthcare to the poor for the first time ever. I’m not sure what he’s doing about schooling.

In order to unseat him, the opposition must coopt that support he has among the poor by promising that the systems he has put in place for their betterment and welfare, will continue after he is gone. So far the opposition looks more like a coalition of the “haves” in society. They need to broaden their base of support.

Pax,

I’m glad you brought this up. It reminds me of Bishop Romero and El Salvador. As Christians I believe we’re suppossed to be standing with the have-nots, not the haves.
Amy

 

[bones_IV]

I say put Chavez out of his misery and execute the guy. His hands bare the blood of thousands of innocent people.

 

[Matt25]

bones_IV:

I say put Chavez out of his misery and execute the guy. His hands bare the blood of thousands of innocent people.

Actually the Catholic Church is against capital punishment except in very particular situations, none of which apply here. Apart from anything else a trial is usually required. I think you depart from Christian charity and Catholic orthodoxy by making this statement.

 

[Matt25]

english.eluniversal.com/2006/01/17/en_pol_art_17A656783.shtml

Chávez glad about with Bishops’ position

Venezuelan president Hugo Chávez claimed to be pleased with the top Catholic representatives, who distanced themselves from the remarks by Rosalio Cardinal Castillo Lara against the government. “I am really happy that the president of the Venezuelan Bishops’ Conference (CEV,) Monsignor Ubaldo Santana; Caracas Archbishop, Monsignor (Jorge) Urosa Sabino; as well as Monsignor Tulio Chirivella, from Barquisimeto; and especially the top leader of our Catholic Church, the Papal Nuncio, representative of His Holiness the Pope, have distanced themselves from the declaration and embarrassment caused by that retired Cardinal.”

Last Saturday, Rosalio Cardinal Lara Castillo said that president Chávez’ government “has lost its democratic character and is beginning to show gleams of dictatorship.” Castillo voiced his opinion during a homily devoted to the Divine Shepherdess, begging her to “save Venezuela.”

The CEV representatives described Castillo Lara’s remarks as inconvenient since no religious act should be turned into a political one.

 

[bones_IV]

Matt25:

Actually the Catholic Church is against capital punishment except in very particular situations, none of which apply here. Apart from anything else a trial is usually required. I think you depart from Christian charity and Catholic orthodoxy by making this statement.

This guy is dangerous. He supports bomb terrorists and is an old anti-semite. A modern Hitler if I saw one and Nazi like ideologies. You can’t support a government like this and call yourself Catholic. The Cardinal said nothing wrong. He’s just pointing out the errors of Chavez’s way.

 

[donosti]

Well,Hugo Chavez is heading for dictatorship,that’s his goal;after all a dictator such as Fidel Castro from Cuba is his very close friend.

 

[Matt25]

bones_IV:

This guy is dangerous. He supports bomb terrorists and is an old anti-semite. A modern Hitler if I saw one. You can’t support a government like this and call yourself Catholic.

What I said was the Catholic Church does not support Capital Punishment in a situation like this, especially in the absence of a trial. I did not say that I supported the Chavez government. I did say that your position departed from Christian Charity and Catholic Orthodoxy. Something I note that you have not attempted to deny.

 

[bones_IV]

Matt25:

What I said was the Catholic Church does not support Capital Punishment in a situation like this, especially in the absence of a trial. I did not say that I supported the Chavez government. I did say that your position departed from Christian Charity and Catholic Orthodoxy. Something I note that you have not attempted to deny.

He’s too dangerous to kept alive.

 

[Walt_Oliver]

Warning: Questioning the faith of another and calling for the death of anyone are not allowed.

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Walt

 

[stillsmallvoice]

Hi all!

This is from this morning’s Ha’aretz:

Venezuelan intellectuals slam Chavez for anti-Semitic remarks

by the Associated Press

CARACAS - Hundreds of Venezuelan intellectuals expressed “shock and consternation” in a public condemnation Saturday of allegedly anti-Semitic remarks made recently by President Hugo Chavez.

“These dangerous tendencies must be denounced and combatted before our society loses its humanity,” the group of 250 intellectuals, writers, artists, journalists and others said in a full-page letter published in the major Venezuelan daily El Nacional.

Chavez in a Christmas Eve speech last month said: “The world has enough for all. But it turned out that some minorities, descendants of those who crucified Christ, descendants of those who threw Bolivar out of here and also crucified him in their own way in Santa Marta, there in Colombia, a minority took the world’s riches for themselves.”

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Link: haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/673054.html

Chavez & Robert Mugabe fiddle while Venezuela & Zimbabwe burn.

Be well!

ssv

 

[marvin]

This, to me is the money quote:

After playing excerpts of the mass recording, he [Chavez] warned Bishops: “Do not try to ignite the country again. Do not make a mistake.”

Ah, “the dictatorship of the proletariat”. Ya gotta love it!

 

[Orogeny]

Just remember that every time you purchase gasoline or heating oil or any other product from Citgo, you are supporting this guy.

Peace

Tim

 

[bones_IV]

marvin:

This, to me is the money quote:

After playing excerpts of the mass recording, he [Chavez] warned Bishops: “Do not try to ignite the country again. Do not make a mistake.”

Ah, “the dictatorship of the proletariat”. Ya gotta love it!

Do you think the Cardinal said anything wrong? Seems like the president of the Bishops in Venezuala has given into modernism.