Venezuelan bishops condemn imposition of socialism

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Caracas, Venezuela, Jan 13, 2015 / 01:09 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- The Venezuelan bishops conference issued a pastoral exhortation on Monday calling on authorities and citizens alike to an ethical and spiritual renewal in order to come out of the current economic and social crisis facing the nation.
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The Jan. 12 letter warned that “Marxist socialism is an erroneous path, and therefore should not be instituted.”
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The bishops began their letter by recalling the events that took place at the beginning of 2014, when political upheaval lead to 43 deaths and hundreds injured.
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catholicnewsagency.com/news/venezuelan-bishops-condemn-imposition-of-socialism-63036/
 
So what kind of economic system do they propose? Surely not capitalism. :rolleyes:
 
ProVobis said:
So what kind of economic system do they propose? Surely not capitalism. :rolleyes:
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They need a move towards a market economy that relinquishes government control to a well regulated one of private ownership. Some sort of mixed economic system. They could talk to their neighbor Colombia for some ideas.

It beats,

http://images.businessweek.com/mz/10/12/370/1012_mz_46venezuela.jpg

(or the aftermath or some looting to eat)

http://www.ticotimes.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/140226VenezuelaLooting-700x467.jpg
 
Good for them. Socialism is evil and should be opposed by all bishops.
 
M-Dent said:
(or the aftermath or some looting to eat)

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Michael, looting is looting.
I have lived through this several times,shortage and hyperinflation.
Crowd/ mass behaviour is peculiar.
Many persons loot to eat,many loot to steal,others,follow the crowd,sometimes they politically instigated,and many people also stay behind at home resisting,crying,choosing not to loot,even when they may not have resources,
Just like behind every door,families are different.Persons are different
In the name of those who stayed at home struggling against the move of the crowd,and taking care of their souls,I believe this has to be said.
I understand also we all make mistakes.
When I saw the photo,I was taken back to concrete examples,and I remembered names and last names.
 
graciew said:
Michael, looting is looting.

I have lived through this several times,shortage and hyperinflation.
Crowd/ mass behaviour is peculiar.
Many persons loot to eat,many loot to steal,others,follow the crowd,sometimes they politically instigated,and many people also stay behind at home resisting,crying,choosing not to loot,even when they may not have resources,
Just like behind every door,families are different.Persons are different
In the name of those who stayed at home struggling against the move of the crowd,and taking care of their souls,I believe this has to be said.
I understand also we all make mistakes.

When I saw the photo,I was taken back to concrete examples,and I remembered names and last names.
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The food and produce shortages will not end until the government type does. The looting is a symptom. Marxism is intolerable.

The people need a color revolution.
 
M-Dent said:
The food and produce shortages will not end until the government type does. The looting is a symptom. Marxism is intolerable.

The people need a color revolution.
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I have no idea of what color revolution is so I am not going there. I am not really " revolutionary" 🙂
Agree Marxism as an ideology is wrong.
Looting is a symptom of much more than government type,and shortage of basic goods can sometimes be related to speculation in times of inflation.
Anyway, good to hear bishops are encouraging peace and renewed hope.
 
graciew said:
I have no idea of what color revolution is so I am not going there. I am not really " revolutionary" 🙂
Agree Marxism as an ideology is wrong…
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A color revolution is one marked by being non-violent. Typically involving massive protests in the streets and strikes. Given the enormous economic stress the government created it would not survive if the Venezuelan people had the will to dismantle that immoral system.

An armed conflict is the last thing needed in Latin America.
 
M-Dent said:
A color revolution is one marked by being non-violent. Typically involving massive protests in the streets and strikes. Given the enormous economic stress the government created it would not survive if the Venezuelan people had the will to dismantle that immoral system.

An armed conflict is the last thing needed in Latin America.
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True,it is the last thing needed.
I can’t speak for the Venezuelan people yet I do understand partly what they are going through .
The strength and support and hope you find when the Church is present particularly in difficult times is so dearly appreciated…it s sometimes very easy to lose hope.
 
graciew said:
Looting is a symptom of much more than government type,and shortage of basic goods can sometimes be related to speculation in times of inflation.
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None of the shortages, looting, and economic collapse in Venezuela is the result of speculation. Their next door neighbor Brazil does not have these shortages of even the most basic necessities like toilet paper and bread. This is the result, COMPLETELY, of the socialism of the govt.
 
graciew said:
Michael, looting is looting.
I have lived through this several times,shortage and hyperinflation.
Crowd/ mass behaviour is peculiar.
Many persons loot to eat,many loot to steal,others,follow the crowd,sometimes they politically instigated,and many people also stay behind at home resisting,crying,choosing not to loot,even when they may not have resources,
Just like behind every door,families are different.Persons are different
In the name of those who stayed at home struggling against the move of the crowd,and taking care of their souls,I believe this has to be said.
I understand also we all make mistakes.
When I saw the photo,I was taken back to concrete examples,and I remembered names and last names.
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I don’t think anyone is condemning the looters. They are starving and in dire need of even basic things. The condemnation is upon the govt and its socialist policies which are causing the shortages and dire conditions.
 
zz912 said:
None of the shortages, looting, and economic collapse in Venezuela is the result of speculation. Their next door neighbor Brazil does not have these shortages of even the most basic necessities like toilet paper and bread. This is the result, COMPLETELY, of the socialism of the govt.
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While bishops address leaders and citizens,citizens help each other promote peace at every level.Avoiding violence,opportunism,corruption,sharing and holding on to hope. Violence brings about violence,and it is painful and may also lead to the worst of us. While we may go out with pots and pans to make our rights be heard with one hand,we need to be holding each other with the other one so that we remain together as a society.
I do understand your points and Michaels,just adding that our individual behavior may add or substract to the mess.
Your point on government is kind of obvious… for me.
.Strength and hope and prayers for our Venezuelan brothers and sisters
 
M-Dent said:
They need a move towards a market economy that relinquishes government control to a well regulated one of private ownership. Some sort of mixed economic system.
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I wonder though if this isn’t directed at the type of government run under Chavez, who had also been at odds with the bishops in Venezuela.
 
ProVobis said:
I wonder though if this isn’t directed at the type of government run under Chavez, who had also been at odds with the bishops in Venezuela.
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From the outside at least, it appears Maduro is continuing Chávez’s Marxist policies. Maduro just seem to lack a bit of that cult of personality that Chávez somehow mustered from many Venezuelans?

I feel really bad for those in such poverty and those bishops trying to reach those suffering Venezuelans. They have a wall to dismantle to even reach them.
 
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