Veteran English nurse ordered to remove crucifix

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thereseozi said:
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An English nurse has been suspended from position-- just 8 months before scheduled retirement-- because she refuses to remove a crucifix that she has been wearing at work on the job for over 30 years.

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While it may be debatable that a crucifix worn externally would pose NO problem to a patient, there is no reason why she can’t wear the crucifix inside of her clothing.
 
The Royal Devon and Exeter NHS Trust said that the order to remove the crucifix was not a violation of Chaplin’s religious freedom because the wearing of a crucifix is not “a requirement of Christian faith.”
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Now see, this really bothers me. How come people can make up 1000 arguments about racial treatment in this country with examples that hold about as much weight as this one does (See Joey Vento’s “This is America, when ordering Please Speak English” sign) and allow it to actually get to a Human Relations panel, and yet stuff like this can be gotten away with?

Sheesh.
 
And one would think that with the conversion of PM Blair, Catholicism would continue on its rehabilitation in Britain. Catholic around the nation should rally around this case and remind themselves of Penal Laws, Test Acts, and Orangemen.
 
canadianguy1143 said:
While it may be debatable that a crucifix worn externally would pose NO problem to a patient, there is no reason why she can’t wear the crucifix inside of her clothing.
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Well, quite. I don’t understand why some people feel the need to make an issue of such things. If she is wearing a crucifix to remind herself she is Christian, then having it pinned inside her clothing out of sight is the way to go.

If she is trying to show others she is Christian, she can surely do that by her actions, and attitde.

There are always rules about jewellery, nail varnish, not wearing a writstwatch and so on associated with nursing. So she’s done it for 30 years? Perhaps there’s a new stricter policy, in view of swine flu, E-coli and MRSA.

I really don’t understand why wearing this necklace is so important to her. And I certainly don’t agree with it being implied that she is some kind of martyr for the faith.
 
Tony Blair converting to the Catholic faith hasn’t actually helped. He doesn’t have a very good reputation now. Why did he wait til after he left office and both he and his wife are pro choice etc I could go on.
As for the worry about catching illnesses in hospital, yes you have to wash your hands when you go into and between each part of the NHS hospital there are strange happenings. Bringing in food to eat and my particular favourite, a person waiting was picking dead skin off her feet, putting it on her trousers and then in her mouth. Her hands then touched doors etc etc!!!
A lot of christians don’t wear a cross or crucifix so I don’t see the problem putting under her clothing.
 
Question: must all necklaces be removed by all nurses? If so, no problem. If only this nurse or just crosses, then there’s a problem. How about stethescopes? They dangle around most nurses’ and doctors’ necks. Are they a safety problem? Or just necklaces with a cross on them? " In hoc signo, vinces."
 
If there is really a safety rule against necklaces, then it just seems stubborn of the nurse to do this. If they were signling her out for her faith, thats another story.

But I don’t think stubbornness is a virtue, unless its truly stubbornness against evil.
 
thereseozi said:
catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=4087

An English nurse has been suspended from position-- just 8 months before scheduled retirement-- because she refuses to remove a crucifix that she has been wearing at work on the job for over 30 years.

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I think she would have a legitimate case of descrimination against her employer. They should have basic rules that forbid descriniation based on religion. This is an obvious violation of her constitutional rights to practice her faith. This has to stop in this country. It has been going on for at least the last 20 years and is getting worse all the time. It is time for all Christians to start protesting this sort of thing much more vigorously than we have been, or we will all be worshiping God underground.
 
The BBC version of the story here says no one is allowed to wear a necklace:
But the Royal Devon and Exeter NHS Trust said its uniform and dress code prohibited front-line staff wearing any type of necklace.
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Her response was, but other people do:
“Necklaces are worn by other members of staff and the trust has promoted the hospital with photographs of staff wearing necklaces,” Mrs Chaplin said.
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Read the rest of the story for the back and forth. I don’t know, I’m all for wearing my crucifix, but in this case, it doesn’t sound like this would be a “hill I’d die on.” 🤷
 
THERE_IS_A_GOD said:
I think she would have a legitimate case of descrimination against her employer. They should have basic rules that forbid descriniation based on religion. This is an obvious violation of her constitutional rights to practice her faith. This has to stop in this country. It has been going on for at least the last 20 years and is getting worse all the time. It is time for all Christians to start protesting this sort of thing much more vigorously than we have been, or we will all be worshiping God underground.
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How is it discrimination on the grounds of religion?

We are not obliged to wear a crucifx necklace.

It isn’t a doctine that to be a Catholic/Christian we have to wear such jewellery.

‘Obvious violation of her constitutional rights’.!!! It would be laughed out of court.
 
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