"Virgin Mary" vs "Mother of GOD"

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:gopray: If THE HOLY SPIRIT inspired me one day, then SURE I will accept it.
The Bible says that Jesus is God. God was born of Mary. Mary is Mother of God.
Which of these three point (if any) do you find challenging?

The Holy Spirit inspired Scripture.
The Holy Spirit guides the Church.

If you trust the Holy Spirit one bit, you ought to come to these conclusions.
 
See, not even in Revelation she is called “Mother of GOD”…
Mary is called Mother of the Lord, which is the same thing. Jesus is seldom referred to as God in the New Testament. Usually, he is referred to with the title Lord, such as 1 Corinthians 8:6: But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. but Lord still is a Divine title. It is what the Hebrews substituted for the name YHWH. But Jesus is still called God. John 1:1, 2 Peter 1:1, Titus 2:13 and 1 Timothy 3:16 to name some examples. I do not think the Apostles would have objected to the term Theotokos even if they didn’t use it explicitly in the canonical books.
 
I prayed to Virgin Mary & St Jude for seeing the person I wished to see for a long time and I was able not just to see the person but also was blessed to talk with that person. This wonderful moment happened on the 1st of Jan 2014 and since then I have been receiving all good news. I thank you Virgin Mary, St Jude, St Rita, St Anthony & St Joan Of Arc & all the saints & Archangels for having heard my prayer. I promise to be your humble servant all my life.
Prayer to the Virgin Mary (never known to fail)
Oh most beautiful flower of Mt. Carmel, fruit wine splenderous of Heaven, Blessed Mother of the Son of God, Immaculate Virgin, assist me in my necessity. Oh Star of the Sea. Help me and show me herein you are my Mother. Oh Holy Mary, Mother of God, Queen of Heaven and Earth, I humbly beseech you from the bottom of my heart to succour me in my necessity. There is none that can withstand your power. Oh show me here you
are my Mother. Oh Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to Thee (3 times). Thank you for mercy towards me and mine. Amen.
This prayer must be said for 3 consecutive days and after that the request will be granted and the prayer must be published.
 
“Mother of LORD JESUS”.
I think I know where the confusion lies, i.e., when we refer to Mary as Mother of God, we do not mean to say that Mary is the Mother of God the Father or the Holy Spirit, i.e., Mary is the mother of God the Son, the second person of the Holy Trinity. Moreover, Mother of Lord Jesus, still means Mother of God in that Lord means Yahweh, i.e., God.
 
If any of JESUS 12 disciples have called her by that title then I would accept it.
Do you not use the word “Trinity” to describe the one true God? Why do you accept this man-made term for Almighty God?🤷

Peace!!!
 
Ive never seen why the title Mother Of God is problematic.
Sam, think of it this way:

Jesus’ Father is God the Father. Jesus is the Son of God. Also, Jesus, being the Second Person of the Trinity is fully God, i.e. He, like the Father and the Holy Spirit share the fullness of the Divine Nature. All three Persons are fully God. (A rudimentary example would be three men sharing one soul). Jesus is fully God and fully Man.
Ok, so how did Jesus enter the world? Through Mary. She gave birth to the God-Man. That’s all the title implies. That Mary gave birth to the Second Person of the Trinity who is God. It does not mean that God originated from her. Only that God entered the world through Her. Mary is His Mother, God, the Son, was her Son. Ergo, Mother of God.
 
I prayed to Virgin Mary & St Jude for seeing the person I wished to see for a long time and I was able not just to see the person but also was blessed to talk with that person. This wonderful moment happened on the 1st of Jan 2014 and since then I have been receiving all good news. I thank you Virgin Mary, St Jude, St Rita, St Anthony & St Joan Of Arc & all the saints & Archangels for having heard my prayer. I promise to be your humble servant all my life.
Prayer to the Virgin Mary (never known to fail)
Oh most beautiful flower of Mt. Carmel, fruit wine splenderous of Heaven, Blessed Mother of the Son of God, Immaculate Virgin, assist me in my necessity. Oh Star of the Sea. Help me and show me herein you are my Mother. Oh Holy Mary, Mother of God, Queen of Heaven and Earth, I humbly beseech you from the bottom of my heart to succour me in my necessity. There is none that can withstand your power. Oh show me here you
are my Mother. Oh Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to Thee (3 times). Thank you for mercy towards me and mine. Amen.
This prayer must be said for 3 consecutive days and after that the request will be granted and the prayer must be published.
As a Lutheran who honors the blessed Mother, I have real problems with this prayer.
 
If any of JESUS 12 disciples have called her by that title then I would accept it.
Let’s ask it this way Sam…is Jesus God? Is Mary the mother of Jesus? If you answer both questions YES then the title Mother of God is appropriate for Mary…even more so if you’re battling a heresy that says Jesus has BECAME God or took on his divinity sometimes after his birth.

Besides…we have NO IDEA whether or not an apostle referred to Mary is Mother of God or not…VERY FEW of their words are recorded for us ANYWHERE. You seem to be hung up on the idea that referring to Mary as Mother of God somehow puts Mary on the same level (or even superior to) God the Father. It doesn’t.
 
=Sam_777;11559219]I have noticed that Catholics care so much about the title “Mother of GOD”!, while JESUS called her “woman” in John 2:4 and not any divine title.
Not just those in communion with the Bishop of Rome. From the Lutheran Confessions:
On account of this personal union and communion of the natures, Mary, the most blessed Virgin, bore not a mere man, but, as the angel [Gabriel] testifies, such a man as is truly the Son of the most high God, who showed His divine majesty even in His mother’s womb, inasmuch as He was born of a virgin, with her virginity inviolate. Therefore she is truly the mother of God, and nevertheless remained a virgin.
Theotokos is directly related to the Incarnation. In the womb, both fully God and fully Man.
At birth, both fully God and fully man. She is truly the Mother of God.
Why wouldn’t Catholics concentrate on the title “Virgin Mary”, and with the other Christian sects tech their children how Mary kept her virginity all her life, so the generation of this age (boys & girls) learn something and stop the standard sinful practice of losing virginity before the legal marriage!!!

😦 I’m sadly saying that because it’s really hard to explain how being a virgin in the Christian family doesn’t seem that important, but for a Jewish or Islamic family is crucial.
ISTM that both can be done. I think we can teach the importance of abstinence, and still show reverence to the Blessed Virgin.

Jon
 
The Holy Spirit inspired Scripture.
The Holy Spirit guides the Church.

If you trust the Holy Spirit one bit, you ought to come to these conclusions.
The Protestants also claim that their Churches are guided by the Holy Spirit, but they don’t accept that title.
 
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EvangelCatholic:
As a Lutheran who honors the blessed Mother, I have real problems with this prayer.
Which part? the “Mother of GOD” title?
 
Ummm, who then, did they think she was? She gave birth to Jesus, Jesus is God, therefore, Mary is the mother of God.
Here is where Protestants believe that you are in error. Mary, through the power of the Holy Spirit, conceived Jesus (the Son of God, the God man; truly human and truly divine). Jesus is God; that we all accept. God became Incarnate. Mary gave birth to the human Jesus; she was in no way responsible for His divine nature. I think the Orthodox have it correct in referring to Mary as Theotokos (the God bearer). Referring to Mary as Mother of God implies something entirely different than Theotokos.
 
Here is where Protestants believe that you are in error. Mary, through the power of the Holy Spirit, conceived Jesus (the Son of God, the God man; truly human and truly divine). Jesus is God; that we all accept. God became Incarnate. Mary gave birth to the human Jesus; she was in no way responsible for His divine nature. I think the Orthodox have it correct in referring to Mary as Theotokos (the God bearer). Referring to Mary as Mother of God implies something entirely different than Theotokos.
I take it you’ve not heard of: hmog.org/ ? 🙂

MJ
 
Here is where Protestants believe that you are in error. Mary, through the power of the Holy Spirit, conceived Jesus (the Son of God, the God man; truly human and truly divine). Jesus is God; that we all accept. God became Incarnate. Mary gave birth to the human Jesus; she was in no way responsible for His divine nature. I think the Orthodox have it correct in referring to Mary as Theotokos (the God bearer). Referring to Mary as Mother of God implies something entirely different than Theotokos.
Mother of God is a correct translation of Theotokos. Theotokos does not refer to bearing God in her womb so much as giving birth to God. Hence the word “tokos” can also refer to interest on money. The Latin translation is Dei Genetrix, i.e. Begetter of God. Is Mary worthy of being called the Mother of God? By all means. She conceived him and nurtured Christ in her womb, she gave birth to him an raised him to adulthood and remained devoted to him forever. Isn’t that what a mother is? That she is not the origin of his divine nature is no object, because no one supposes that a human mother gives her child everything human about him. What about the father? What about God? When people make these objections, they are introducing non-existent problems. I have yet to meet a Catholic who believes that Mary is the origin of the Divine Nature on account of being misled by the title “Mother of God.” Has anyone here ever actually met such a person? If not, isn’t this a meaningless dispute? Surely there are more worthwhile things to argue about.
 
The Protestants also claim that their Churches are guided by the Holy Spirit, but they don’t accept that title.
It depends on the protestant you are speaking of, part of the difficulty with the outdated term “protestant”.

Again, from the Lutheran Confessions:

**On account of this personal union and communion of the natures, Mary, the most blessed Virgin, bore not a mere man, but, as the angel [Gabriel] testifies, such a man as is truly the Son of the most high God, who showed His divine majesty even in His mother’s womb, inasmuch as He was born of a virgin, with her virginity inviolate. Therefore she is truly the mother of God, and nevertheless remained a virgin. **

Jon
 
By all means. She conceived him and nurtured Christ in her womb, she gave birth to him an raised him to adulthood and remained devoted to him forever. Isn’t that what a mother is?
Bur remember that neither JESUS nor the 12 disciples called her by any divine title…
 
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