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DarkLight
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I wasn’t disputing that.
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LethalMouse
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Nor was I
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SilverShadow22
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I knew exactly what he meant.
The self-possessed, able-bodied, purposeful, skilled, determined, disciplined man is the ‘Spartan warrior’
While the slinking, lying, selfish, conniving, self-serving, skilled only at self preservation and full of braggadocio man is the (literal or figurative) everyday mediocre street thug.
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LethalMouse
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Thanks, I don’t like the technical legalism of the pharisees lol.
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starshiptrooper
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Hah! No!
Comparing your husband to James Bond while informing me that you dislike masculine muscle-y square-jawed action movie star guys who communicate in monosyllables and bullets is some serious cognitive dissonance. He apparently makes an upper middle class income too. So you have your alpha tingles and your beta bux in one guy. You are a quintessential confirmation of key Red Pill concepts. I am also a perfect example of stereotypes about the Red Pill too. The difference is that I have the self-awareness to admit it and poke fun at myself. If you do not believe me, ask me for my thoughts on the Illiad or mixed martial arts fighting sometime.
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DarkLight
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I am curious where those of us who have chosen singleness fit into this “redpill” ideology. I’ve never lacked for men who were interested in taking me out on dates (working in a mostly male field does that) - I just never wanted it myself. And yes, I am a virgin.
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LethalMouse
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@Starshiptrooper
Hey just fyi, if you embrace MGTOW note you might get rich, but see how it ends
youtu.be/38WflQtZfBI
Hey just fyi, if you embrace MGTOW note you might get rich, but see how it ends
youtu.be/38WflQtZfBI
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BlueEyedLady
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Hi! I’m married to a handsome, fun, charismatic, but loyal guy who makes a good living. Can I share my theory on this “phenomena”? Men who were raised right will have both good character and confidence/a flipping backbone. Women who were raised right will appreciate these men.
No healthy woman wants a jerk or a weak-willed man. No healthy man wants to treat people poorly or be a doormat.
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starshiptrooper
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Easy, you are an outlier. Humans have free will and there will always be a few exceptions to the rule. This does not change the fact that there are certain behavior patterns that the overwhelming majority of people follow.
That sort of money enables you to afford a different high level escort a few times a month. If I was going to go MGTOW, that is the way I would go.@Starshiptrooper
Hey just fyi, if you embrace MGTOW note you might get rich, but see how it ends
youtu.be/38WflQtZfBI
Meh, more or less a confirmation of the same thing I said earlier. You lucked out and got the alpha tingles and the beta bux in one person.
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LightBound
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Have you ever considered that you might have a calling to become a religious hermit? Obviously every women out there is a complete ***** that is out to get you and you seem to have a difficult time finding security in your manhood or lack of it…don’t know what you seem to suffer from other than some serious social issues
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DarkLight
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I suspect what you’re referring to by this combination is what the rest of us would call a “decent guy.” Most virtues are a balance of different things. And most women want a guy who has enough of a spine to say what he wants and stand up for himself, but who isn’t going to act entitled or try to lord it over her. Not a tyrant, and not a doormat. All this “alpha” and “beta” stuff just obscures the fact that women of good character want men of good character, and vice versa. Women of bad character may perhaps want men of bad character, but that tends not to work as well.
And of course, from a Catholic standpoint, good character, both in the realm of chastity and otherwise, is what we all should be seeking in a spouse.
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Monica4316
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sure! sorry I didn’t really understand what the posts were referring toNor was I
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Monica4316
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what I find really strange, is that guys were never really interested in me until I chose to commit myself to singleness. Now that I’m discerning a vocation, I’ve had more men who became interested in asking me out, though I told them no. It’s strange because along with choosing to be single, I also chose to dress more simply and I don’t wear any makeup or jewellery.
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Xantippe
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Back when we first met, my husband was skinny and not very athletic. He was also a grad student in the humanities and making a whopping $14k or so a year.
So, barring the use of a crystal ball, I couldn’t have known that he was going to get a lot more athletic and prosperous a couple decades later.
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Xantippe
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Yep.
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Xantippe
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Right.
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Xantippe
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This is from the discussion about 8-10 pages back. Apologies for not getting to it sooner.
The demographic stuff is important, because it dramatically changes the odds of marital success. Add in some favorable demographics (at least mid-twenties, both Catholic, median income, etc.), and the 50% X 70% stat you were using is no longer operational.
Furthermore, there are a lot of optional problems–drug addiction, alcoholism, gambling addiction, porn addiction, adultery, untreated mental illness, out of control spending, refusal to seek employment, etc. Eliminate the risk of those from at least one spouse (oneself) and the odds of successful marriage shoot up again.
A lot of these discussions treat divorce as coming completely out of the blue (the Russian roulette analogy), whereas in practice, divorce is often preceded by epic bad behavior on the part of at least one spouse.
Edited to add: Your last sentence is pretty odd: “As for age, as I pointed out earlier, women initiate the majority of most divorces. As they get older, they will have difficulty finding another partner and run the greater risk of being alone”
I was looking this up, and there’s apparently a v-shaped risk for divorce: “Nicholas Wolfinger, a sociologist at the University of Utah, looked at data from the National Survey of Family Growth and found that while the risk of divorce declines steadily from your teens into your late 20s — it starts to rise again somewhere in your 30s. Once you reach the age of 32, the odds of getting a divorce increase by 5 percent each year.”
huffingtonpost.com/entry/this-is-the-best-age-to-get-married-according-to-research_us_55a957b9e4b065dfe89e4fce
That strongly suggests that your theory that women are such withered husks by 25 that they cling to their husbands for dear life is probably not the right explanation.
Here’s a more likely explanation for the pattern of divorce declining from the teens on into the later 20s–the human brain continues to develop well into the 20s, and younger people are more impulsive and have less life experience and poorer judgment.
(I will leave the increase in divorce rate in older people to somebody else to explain.)
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Xantippe
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???My exwife said she would not do stuff for me bc… well idk, she was kicked out of the military for mental issues lol.
But anyway she did everything she said she wouldn’t.
I asked her once why the big “foot down” if she keeps doing stuff.
She said “I like doing stuff, but I dont want you to dare want anything or expect anything from me ever”
Sound disordered??
And that is basically what a bunch of you keep saying.
In fact another great example from her and thanks to the warped view that gets stuck in some womens heads due to feminist brainwashing.
My exwife had a dream to sew and make dresses from home. When first married I was unsure we could afford it as she would maybe need to work for a bit.
Her fall back was a professional field with a degree she had from military. So I got her phone calls etc and did more legwork to help her in that way than she did.
In between all this I ran the numbers and our plans and I told her (thinking I was going to be hero status lol) that and key here “IF you want we can afford the dress making thing at least for a while so you can try it”
Seriously I just said we could afford her dream… but alas I am a man do how dare I.
I was given this in return “Why do YOU WANT me to do that??? So I am stuck at home!!!”
Ummm what?? It is your freaking dream nutcase! And I did more work to get you and out of the house job than you did soooo WHAT!?!??!
But honestly that is kind of how you 3 tend to sound
Nobody in this thread resembles your ex-wife. In fact, based on your posts about her, I’m confident in saying that nobody like her is a CAF poster.
Perhaps men prefer the “simple but elegant”, “holy lady” look?what I find really strange, is that guys were never really interested in me until I chose to commit myself to singleness. Now that I’m discerning a vocation, I’ve had more men who became interested in asking me out, though I told them no. It’s strange because along with choosing to be single, I also chose to dress more simply and I don’t wear any makeup or jewellery.
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LethalMouse
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Note, way less fulfilling an experience.
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